Summer Mercato Thread 2019-20 (78 Viewers)

[Stephan]

Tobacco companies target the youth because they are more susceptible to start smoking

Sarri likes to smoke

And the last time I checked 1+1=2

I was talking about playing young players.

 

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[italiacalcio10]

Are you kidding me?! overall Hysaj+Emerson>A.Sandro+Cancelo!
People see something flashy and automatically decide its the best - Well it doesnt work that way...

A.Sandro is good and IMO we should keep as he can defend and attack (even if not as great as he once was)
Cancelo is our most overrated player on the team! Yeah he can dribble and yeah he is fast but his position is of a defender so the first thing he should know is defending and I dont know if he even hear about the word defending not to mention actually defending...
Hysaj to me is twice as good as Cancelo!

as for Pogba or SMS - No matter who we get thats a huge plus...

If we are going to replace Sandro, I’d prefer Telles. He has become the best fullback in the Portuguese league and despite struggling in his first Serie A stint several years ago, he’s matured a lot. Cancelo I’d prefer to keep because I think he can be coached to improve.


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[Orgut]

If we are going to replace Sandro, I’d prefer Telles. He has become the best fullback in the Portuguese league and despite struggling in his first Serie A stint several years ago, he’s matured a lot. Cancelo I’d prefer to keep because I think he can be coached to improve.


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I can understand why you want Telles but Cancelo is hopeless when it comes to defending and concentration..

 

[DAiDEViL]

Hysaj ("twice as good as Cancelo")and Emerson being better than A.Sandro and Cancelo

Gotta love this place.

 

[Barese]

Fatta per Traore, he'll spend this season at Sassuolo. Now confirm Demiral please.

 

[Orgut]

Hysaj ("twice as good as Cancelo")and Emerson being better than A.Sandro and Cancelo

Gotta love this place.

Who said this one?
I just said Hysaj is better than Cancelo since Cancelo cant defend and when you pick a defender he needs to know how to defend.. Allegri understands that and this is why Cancelo was on the bench a lot..
A.Sandro is definitely better than Emerson - The Emerson better than A.Sandro is your invention..
I just looked back at my posts - I said both vs both... as when you get rid of Cancelo you get a better defense its not due to A.Sandro..
I actually rate A.Sandro..
Also I said to me Hysaj is twice as good and I stand behind that because if I have to pick between 2 players for RB position when one can defend and one cant... I`ll choose the one who CAN defend...

 

[DAiDEViL]

Who said this one?
I just said Hysaj is better than Cancelo since Cancelo cant defend and when you pick a defender he needs to know how to defend.. Allegri understands that and this is why Cancelo was on the bench a lot..
A.Sandro is definitely better than Emerson - The Emerson better than A.Sandro is your invention..
I just looked back at my posts - I said both vs both... as when you get rid of Cancelo you get a better defense its not due to A.Sandro..
I actually rate A.Sandro..
Also I said to me Hysaj is twice as good and I stand behind that because if I have to pick between 2 players for RB position when one can defend and one cant... I`ll choose the one who CAN defend...

Yes, and that's how i read it. I still found it to be silly. Especially the twice as good part.

 

[.zero]

I was talking about playing young players.

As was I

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Just wait until that Juul sponsorship money comes through.

 

[Stu]

Who said this one?
I just said Hysaj is better than Cancelo since Cancelo cant defend and when you pick a defender he needs to know how to defend.. Allegri understands that and this is why Cancelo was on the bench a lot..
A.Sandro is definitely better than Emerson - The Emerson better than A.Sandro is your invention..
I just looked back at my posts - I said both vs both... as when you get rid of Cancelo you get a better defense its not due to A.Sandro..
I actually rate A.Sandro..
Also I said to me Hysaj is twice as good and I stand behind that because if I have to pick between 2 players for RB position when one can defend and one cant... I`ll choose the one who CAN defend...

Attacking full backs are becoming more and more important in modern football. Do you think Klopp cares that Alexander-Arnold isn't great defensively? What Cancelo lacks in the defensive phase he more than makes up for in attack. No way is Hysaj better.

 

[Orgut]

Attacking full backs are becoming more and more important in modern football. Do you think Klopp cares that Alexander-Arnold isn't great defensively? What Cancelo lacks in the defensive phase he more than makes up for in attack. No way is Hysaj better.

There is a minimum... Cancelo isnt at that level he just cant defend!
Arnold might not be Maldini but he is ok and If I need to choose a RB from all over the world without caring about the budget I`d pick him easily.. Its not about the role of attacking full back its about Cancelo ability to defend which does not exist.. not to mention his lapses of concentration...

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Yes, and that's how i read it. I still found it to be silly. Especially the twice as good part.

I guess you like flashy while I like effective

 

[Juve_newbie]

Attacking full backs like Cancelo don't need to be superb in defending, we know that. But it doesn't mean they can afford to lose ball (because of overdribbling or poor passing) in our final third so many times like Cancelo did this season. R.Carlos, Alves, Marcelo are all attacking fullbacks/wingbacks, their defending skill are only decent but at least in their prime they don't give ball cheaply to the opponents in dangerous position

 

[Orgut]

Yes, and that's how i read it. I still found it to be silly. Especially the twice as good part.

The thing about A.Sandro is I think he can be twice as good as he currently is - He needs a coach who tells him its ok to run and dribble and he has the technique to do so.. We have seen what he can do in his first season before the Italian tactics limited him. Im pretty sure he would do it again given a chance.
Best scenario is we keep him and sell Mr. I cant defend Cancelo..

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Attacking full backs like Cancelo don't need to be superb in defending, we know that. But it doesn't mean they can afford to lose ball (because of overdribbling or poor passing) in our final third so many times like Cancelo did this season. R.Carlos, Alves, Marcelo are all attacking fullbacks/wingbacks, their defending skill are only decent but at least in their prime they don't give ball cheaply to the opponents in dangerous position

The first part I agree but the thing is the other bold part.. He isnt decent when defending.. he needs to improve in order to be considered decent...
I agree about the losing the ball thing - Its the thing that can hurt the most (like vs Ajax)

By the way I`d love us to get a RB who can copy D.Alves of 2017 its not that I dont appreciate attacking fullbacks - I do! and Cancelo is great when attacking but is very poor when defending and.. as you said he cant lose the ball the way he does..

Marcelo - a few years ago I`d definitely be happy to get him but now - He is over his prime and he is on the wrong side of 30 - Its better we get someone younger if we replace A.Sandro (hope we keep him though..)

 

[Bianco2nero]

Attacking full backs like Cancelo don't need to be superb in defending, we know that. But it doesn't mean they can afford to lose ball (because of overdribbling or poor passing) in our final third so many times like Cancelo did this season. R.Carlos, Alves, Marcelo are all attacking fullbacks/wingbacks, their defending skill are only decent but at least in their prime they don't give ball cheaply to the opponents in dangerous position

That's true.. Too bad Juve is an Italian club where defense is important and it's in their blood nd philosophy.. If that's a problem than Juve can do two things.. Or they sell the attacking backs or they are going to use another formation where attacking backs get their support from an extra CV... So basically Juve can turn their formation in a 343, 352 or 3412 with another central defender as their support and back up when they fail in their 'weakness'. It's up to the coach to choose which one is the best for their team, vision and kind of football style..

When you get De Ligt and have Demiral, Bonucci, Chiellini, Rugani as central defenders u can play with three in the back. And Emre Can can play in the back when it's necessary. At Bayern in the youth he played at that position several times. Central you have thave to make a choice and if you want that back three you have to sacrifice Pjanic because he's weak in counterattacks and all the defensive things a CM need when they don't have the ball. You should buy for example Barella & Ndombele to play together. A example of a nice formation (and it's only an idea) is this one (without the attack):

Woj
De Ligt-Bonucci-Chiellini
Cancelo-Ndombele-Barella-Spinazzola​

 

[pavluska]

Last details finalized for Romero's transfer, who will stay loan in Genoa for a season. - Agresti

There you go. Didn't think Romero would join us next season.

Now pls throw away Bonucci and sign an actual defender.

 

[.zero]

Just wait until that Juul sponsorship money comes through.

Sarri might request a no-vape clause in his contract

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There you go. Didn't think Romero would join us next season.

Now pls throw away Bonucci and sign an actual defender.

Romanogli this summer

Skriniar next summer

 

[Snobist]

I want Sane

 

[Hust]

Last details finalized for Romero's transfer, who will stay loan in Genoa for a season. - Agresti

Stupid loans

 

[.zero]

Stupid loans

That basically means that he will never see the light of day in our stripes

 

[Orgut]

De Ligt to PSG according to reports - If he signs for them he loses respect from everyone as its definitely just about money as Juve and Barca are a way better fit than PSG...