Summer mercato thread 2017-18 (82 Viewers)

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Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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Well my two cents

Before the mercato we knew we had to adress winger options and cm
Alves forced his way out. It was not possible to keep him. Replacing him is tough. Considerably improving the team with Costa can partially solve this but i expect a better fullback to come in. This can only be evaluated once the fullback arrives, OR after mercato is finished and : lol its desci.
Alves leaving is a huge blow. Replacing him is tough but what we did in order to replace him is quite horrible IMO. Do you know when are we going to win the CL with De Sciglio as a starter? Never. Not in a million years. I also expect a fullback to come, which seems unlikely at the moment, but we'll see what happens. That alone is a huge downside in our team.

Btw, your expectations from Costa are high. I sort of understand that. But you gotta see the other side of it too. He's NOT like he used to be as he turned into a brainless runner. He might explode, yeah, it won't be a huge surprise. But he might also turn out to be decent and nothing special, as he was for Bayern when fans were mad and wanted him out. So far he's not a top material.

Bonucci had to be shipped off. We were kind. Could have upset the dressing room but we didnt. Thing is, we had this defence for a 3cb defence and we are on a 2cb defence. With Rugani ready to break through. It makes sense to rely on Chiellini, Barzagli,Benatia, while giving Rugani an incredible amount of games and go from there. Our depth for 2cb is similar to what it was for 3cb. Bonucci is a loss. Buying a massive CB is a bad idea in the long term considering the incredible talent of Rugani.
Yes, Bonucci had to be shipped off. You're right, we had similar options for our 3 man defense but... back then we had option. If somebody got injured we could easily switch. But now, no, if somebody gets injured we're completely fucked up. Buying a massive CB is not a bad idea because Barzagli is 36. Rugani will surely get his chance simply because Chiellini has problems with injuries while Benatia is made of glass -- which makes our CB spot VERY fragile.

We didnt adress cm. We can leave it late. We can only know after we sign a cm or when the mercato closes
That's totally fine. But signing Matuidi won't solve shit and it would be a horrible move.

You know why this mercato is 5-6/10? It's just average. Look at the names we signed. Polak (good), De Sciglio (reject), Bentancur (potential), D.Costa (reject/question mark/revival), Berna (big potential). We have defense fragile, our mid is not solved and we're relying on question marks for the wing. IMO this looks like a mercato that can be done by Inter and Milan. This Inter and Milan, not the old teams.

Also, I'm gonna be fucking speechless if we sell Dybala.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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that's why i'm not happy with this mercato.
We lost Bonucci and Alves which were 2 starters and we spent it all on Costa and Bernardeschi
We brought in a mediocre De Sciglio on Allegri request and we still lack a real midfielder
we didn't sell yet the likes of Lemina,Rincon,Lichsteiner and Asamoah meanwhile the time passing and we're already in august.
Usually Marotta wanted to close the market as early as possible.... while this summer everything feels so weird and unnatural.
Dunno what's on their mind. And if the big shot is the 30yrs old Matuidi or the overpriced average N'Zonzi..... that would leave me really depressed
if we got into the season with just De Sciglio and Licht for RB then that's a disgrace

Barzagli looks a bit past it now unfortunately, Benatia has been shaky at times and all four of them missed heaps of games last season. Don't see how we could go into the season with just those four, even if we played a 4 man defense the whole time.

We are short one player in CM too. our options aside from pjanic, marchisio & khedira are dismal

If we wanted to sign Keita, which according to you is our main thing, he would have been here a month ago.
obviously things changed after schick fell through
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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We weakened our Defence
Reinvigorated our Goalkeeper
Strengthened our Attack

Our Midfield remains the same as it was in May with the exception of Bentancur.

In hindsight, you can argue that doesn't look too that bad. However, I'd say we're at 6/10 as our biggest strength has always been our defence.
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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honestly I am cause the names brought up so far are really unconvincing
The thing is a lot of fans want us to upgrade the team massively while we're a team that played 2 of the last 3 CL finals and we don't have hundreds of millions to spend. It's almost impossible.

We needed wingers the most, we adressed it.
We needed CM strength, we already have Marchisio coming back and we're looking for another addition. Btw; if you expect Kroos type of players; you're always going to be disappointed.
We lost Dani & Bonucci. The latter needs no replacement, when every position is covered with 2 players. No other European top team has 4 CBs of that calibre, none. Injuries can be dealt with. As for Dani, yes Desci would be underwhelming but we're probably going to add someone here with Desci being able to cover all positions at the back in an emergency situation.
PS: we definitely upgraded in the GK department.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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The thing is a lot of fans want us to upgrade the team massively while we're a team that played 2 of the last 3 CL finals and we don't have hundreds of millions to spend. It's almost impossible.

We needed wingers the most, we adressed it.
We needed CM strength, we already have Marchisio coming back and we're looking for another addition. Btw; if you expect Kroos type of players; you're always going to be disappointed.
We lost Dani & Bonucci. The latter needs no replacement, when every position is covered with 2 players. No other European top team has 4 CBs of that calibre, none. Injuries can be dealt with. As for Dani, yes Desci would be underwhelming but we're probably going to add someone here with Desci being able to cover all positions at the back in an emergency situation.
PS: we definitely upgraded in the GK department.
:tup:

If we keep Sandro and Dybala while getting one physical cm option (it can be Matuidi), and a more solid RB, i'll be giving it an 8/10.

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@Osman look at this peasant Zacheryah who's rating a mercato also on not selling stars :snoop:
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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I don't see huge issues, just one. An experience CM is probably going to be our last signing, unless an opportunity pops up.

Bonucci is a loss but we are well covered in that position and had overkill depth, it's time for Rugani and Benatia to step up. The idea really should be that they relegate Barzagli to 4th choice by the turn of the year.

De Sciglio looks like the obvious weak spot. Already pointed out is the fact that he isn't a replacement for Dani Alves, who was essentially a RM with a free role in our team. I've got concerns about MDS' character and his defensive awareness, but I'm sure we will improve those things. He need to be energetic and solid, I don't think the right back needs to be a special player in our system heavily biased around our front 6 players.

In terms of CM I think we are not in as bad a position as it might seem right now, because if Marchisio is back to a good level then he Pjanic and Khedira are guarantees at this level, and I think Bentancur will be a surprise package. We need an athletic CM simply because all our CM starters are technical players.

The glaring weakness last year was the lack of quality options out wide and those were our two big signings this summer.
 

AOD4

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Nov 24, 2004
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We weakened our Defence
Reinvigorated our Goalkeeper
Strengthened our Attack

Our Midfield remains the same as it was in May with the exception of Bentancur.

In hindsight, you can argue that doesn't look too that bad. However, I'd say we're at 6/10 as our biggest strength has always been our defence.
I feel we are weaker than last season, our midfield centre clearly needs someone capable there. It was our first area we were linked with this summer , and it sound like Nzonzi was done deal at one point.
Defense was the strongest , we keep playing the card the best defense in Europe and losing 2 out of 5 starters and having MDS doesn't look so comfortable , but if we sign a real midfield powerhouse we can actually shield the defense well .
First area we need to focus for the rest of this summer campaign is surely the midfield and Beppe needs to sign whoever Allegri identified as his first choice in that area.
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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I don't see huge issues, just one. An experience CM is probably going to be our last signing, unless an opportunity pops up.

Bonucci is a loss but we are well covered in that position and had overkill depth, it's time for Rugani and Benatia to step up. The idea really should be that they relegate Barzagli to 4th choice by the turn of the year.

De Sciglio looks like the obvious weak spot. Already pointed out is the fact that he isn't a replacement for Dani Alves, who was essentially a RM with a free role in our team. I've got concerns about MDS' character and his defensive awareness, but I'm sure we will improve those things. He need to be energetic and solid, I don't think the right back needs to be a special player in our system heavily biased around our front 6 players.

In terms of CM I think we are not in as bad a position as it might seem right now, because if Marchisio is back to a good level then he Pjanic and Khedira are guarantees at this level, and I think Bentancur will be a surprise package. We need an athletic CM simply because all our CM starters are technical players.

The glaring weakness last year was the lack of quality options out wide and those were our two big signings this summer.
:tup:
 

napoleonic

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Sep 7, 2010
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Alves leaving is a huge blow. Replacing him is tough but what we did in order to replace him is quite horrible IMO. Do you know when are we going to win the CL with De Sciglio as a starter? Never. Not in a million years. I also expect a fullback to come, which seems unlikely at the moment, but we'll see what happens. That alone is a huge downside in our team.

Btw, your expectations from Costa are high. I sort of understand that. But you gotta see the other side of it too. He's NOT like he used to be as he turned into a brainless runner. He might explode, yeah, it won't be a huge surprise. But he might also turn out to be decent and nothing special, as he was for Bayern when fans were mad and wanted him out. So far he's not a top material.



Yes, Bonucci had to be shipped off. You're right, we had similar options for our 3 man defense but... back then we had option. If somebody got injured we could easily switch. But now, no, if somebody gets injured we're completely $#@!ed up. Buying a massive CB is not a bad idea because Barzagli is 36. Rugani will surely get his chance simply because Chiellini has problems with injuries while Benatia is made of glass -- which makes our CB spot VERY fragile.



That's totally fine. But signing Matuidi won't solve $#@! and it would be a horrible move.

You know why this mercato is 5-6/10? It's just average. Look at the names we signed. Polak (good), De Sciglio (reject), Bentancur (potential), D.Costa (reject/question mark/revival), Berna (big potential). We have defense fragile, our mid is not solved and we're relying on question marks for the wing. IMO this looks like a mercato that can be done by Inter and Milan. This Inter and Milan, not the old teams.

Also, I'm gonna be $#@!ing speechless if we sell Dybala.
Lol, wasting your life arguing with that guy, part of me say I remember him calling costa a lolzilian in the past and that we should stay away from him
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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Anyone calling D. Costa and Bernardeschi question marks and/or revivals/potentials must've been so disappointed when we signed Tevez, Morata, Pirlo, Dybala, Bonucci, etc. etc.
 

Beki

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Jul 9, 2012
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I agree that Pjanic, Marchisio (if he returns back to his former form) and Khedira are fine on the midfield, but we need still an experienced CM or starting caliber who can jump in when when someone injures, because our depth is very weak. Bentancur is a question mark yet, Rincón+Lemina+Sturaro is not an answer under an important match coming from the bench,
 
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