Summer mercato thread 2017-18 (93 Viewers)

[SrdanPopovic]

So we made 109m ONLY from the CL. That' doesn't even include TV rights, advertising, stadium, etc. We are killing it financially.

We proved last summer we can spend now, that isn't the issue.

IMO the only "tough" buys will be abroad (Tolisso, etc).

We can use our fringe players/youth players to lower the costs on players like K.Balde, Bernadeschi, etc. That's probably one of the main reasons why we are so focused on youth simply so we can use them are bargaining chips to lower the cost on players in Italy.

We need those difference makers. I maintain that I want Sanchez before anyone else. Then Tolisso. We already have Schick so after the first two we can buy local for all I care.

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Sure, but it was the same midfield that got us to the final as well. We mentally caved after the second goal, everyone was bad in possession. No reason at all we shouldn't have beat them yesterday.

As I Said my bro theres no better money machine than Juvemtus Football Club,its just a matter of does our board wanna spend or not,think we lost many great deals cause Beppster Was low-balling all the time...anyone remember let summer there were guys who were telling 30-40million is over paying for Gabriel Jesus...i am asking is that look over paying now? Man City bring the guy for 30 million plus some bonuses

 

Buy on AliExpress.com

[.zero]

I can't wait to sign more spare players from Italy

Bernie
Berardi
Orso
Keita

Get ready CL 2018, here we come

 

[SrdanPopovic]

Borrusia Dortmund bring Dembele for 20 millions
Monaco bring Tielemans for 25
All that were golden opportunities

 

[vodka]

So we made 109m ONLY from the CL. That' doesn't even include TV rights, advertising, stadium, etc. We are killing it financially.

We proved last summer we can spend now, that isn't the issue.

IMO the only "tough" buys will be abroad (Tolisso, etc).

We can use our fringe players/youth players to lower the costs on players like K.Balde, Bernadeschi, etc. That's probably one of the main reasons why we are so focused on youth simply so we can use them are bargaining chips to lower the cost on players in Italy.

We need those difference makers. I maintain that I want Sanchez before anyone else. Then Tolisso. We already have Schick so after the first two we can buy local for all I care.

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Sure, but it was the same midfield that got us to the final as well. We mentally caved after the second goal, everyone was bad in possession. No reason at all we shouldn't have beat them yesterday.

lets not forget about our wingbacks. Alex Sandro is the only sure player to rock, kwadwo should be gone, licht is not as good and i believe this was the last of the best from alves sadly, we need de sciglio and someone else

 

[MikeM]

Nowadays the best defense is actually offense. Every foul is a yellow. Their first goal was 100% preventable but neither of our CMs wanted to make the tactical foul on Kroos during the counter and take an early yellow because just one more shaky challenge would produce a red.

Atletico and Juve have come up short in the CL despite having the best defense. It's better to defend with ball possession. It's better to keep Marcelo in his own half than to try and stop him in your half.

You don't go full BVB/Monaco/Man City but I wouldn't be against shifting a little more in that direction.

It is imperative that we identify a more clear formation before we act. We used 3 formations this year. 4-2-3-1, 3-5-2 and 3-4-3 in the later stages of the CL. It's good to have versatility but I'm not sure it was versatility as it was just Allegri searching (and finding) solution after solution.

My main concern is that Higuain and Dybala still don't look that comfortable together. Higuain in particular, was bought for 94M, because he played with outright wingers. And at Juve, that wasn't really the case.

We have a lot of good players still, obviously. But they don't naturally fit together. This season was saved because Mandzukic did everything humanly possible to produce from LM and because Dani Alves caught fire in the 2nd half.

I mean, to buy Higuain for 94M and then switch his service from Insigne/Callejon/Mertens to Mandzukic is literally the complete opposite type of player. I am not putting blame anywhere in particular because it worked out for the most part but we have to do better to fit our pieces together. I don't think it will work out so well in the future.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

That would happen most likely if Allegri left coming seasons and his replacement was Sarri.

Didn't he play with wingers at Milan?

 

[Gagi]

I think he mostly used 4312.

 

[Juventus 32]

How much we'll profit from Allianz?

 

[DanielSz]

Prediction: Lemina will stay. I think the team likes him a lot more than the fans do/think. I too like him a lot more than Sturaro and Rincon and I don't think we're dying for the 20m or whatever we would get for him. That doesn't outweigh the valuable depth Lemina would provide.

 

[Xperd]

Szczesny to Juve
Neto to Napoli
-La Stampa

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I think everyone is focusing a bit too much on how defensive we are. I don't think that's the problem. Being able to sit back and soak up pressure is great, look what it did to Barcelona. The problem was that we couldn't do the rest, the midfield couldn't then take the ball and move it forward much. Even when they managed it, our forwards did nothing with it.

Defending is still extremely important, but we are unable to go forward after defending for prolonged stretches of time. That's where the problem is. Basically, we can keep the defensive approach, but then we need to be world class at the counter.

 

[SrdanPopovic]

How much we'll profit from Allianz?

When we built the stadium first naming Was sold for 82 mil,this time our sta ture is differen,so i would say at least 100-120 mil for naming right from allianz
And we will carry that name for 8 seasons,i think i read that if its not bulls*it

 

[Juventus 32]

When we built the stadium first naming Was sold for 82 mil,this time our sta ture is differen,so i would say at least 100-120 mil for naming right from allianz
And we will carry that name for 8 seasons,i think i read that if its not bulls*it

6 yrs till 2023
http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/juventus-home-to-be-named-allianz-stadium-until-2023-060117

 

[Mark]

He may turn the next Mesi,but judging from youtube he doesn't not impress me so much. Keita Blade is better.


@Mark what do you think?

I'll watch it later. I haven't seen one sec of him.

 

[SrdanPopovic]

6 yrs till 2023
http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/juventus-home-to-be-named-allianz-stadium-until-2023-060117

Yup, even better than,will be free from that contract earlier

 

[.zero]

Borrusia Dortmund bring Dembele for 20 millions
Monaco bring Tielemans for 25
All that were golden opportunities

Yes, I'm baffled by how Beppe could not / did not make attempts at either of these players. Tielemans for 25M is nothing.

Yet we keep spending precious $$ on pointless players like "Il nuovo Davids" http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2684501-juventus-hoping-tomas-rincon-can-be-the-new-edgar-davids

lets not forget about our wingbacks. Alex Sandro is the only sure player to rock, kwadwo should be gone, licht is not as good and i believe this was the last of the best from alves sadly, we need de sciglio and someone else

Mattia will be a great addition and re-uniting w/ Max will be a win-win for club and player

Nowadays the best defense is actually offense. Every foul is a yellow. Their first goal was 100% preventable but neither of our CMs wanted to make the tactical foul on Kroos during the counter and take an early yellow because just one more shaky challenge would produce a red.

Atletico and Juve have come up short in the CL despite having the best defense. It's better to defend with ball possession. It's better to keep Marcelo in his own half than to try and stop him in your half.

You don't go full BVB/Monaco/Man City but I wouldn't be against shifting a little more in that direction.

It is imperative that we identify a more clear formation before we act. We used 3 formations this year. 4-2-3-1, 3-5-2 and 3-4-3 in the later stages of the CL. It's good to have versatility but I'm not sure it was versatility as it was just Allegri searching (and finding) solution after solution.

My main concern is that Higuain and Dybala still don't look that comfortable together. Higuain in particular, was bought for 94M, because he played with outright wingers. And at Juve, that wasn't really the case.

We have a lot of good players still, obviously. But they don't naturally fit together. This season was saved because Mandzukic did everything humanly possible to produce from LM and because Dani Alves caught fire in the 2nd half.

I mean, to buy Higuain for 94M and then switch his service from Insigne/Callejon/Mertens to Mandzukic is literally the complete opposite type of player. I am not putting blame anywhere in particular because it worked out for the most part but we have to do better to fit our pieces together. I don't think it will work out so well in the future.

 

[SrdanPopovic]

Yes, I'm baffled by how Beppe could not / did not make attempts at either of these players. Tielemans for 25M is nothing.

Yet we keep spending precious $$ on pointless players like "Il nuovo Davids" http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2684501-juventus-hoping-tomas-rincon-can-be-the-new-edgar-davids



Mattia will be a great addition and re-uniting w/ Max will be a win-win for club and player

Il nuovo Davids Lmao Lmao Lmao... Rincon is at least 3-4 leagues beneath Davids

 

[Liviu]

So we made 109m ONLY from the CL. That' doesn't even include TV rights, advertising, stadium, etc. We are killing it financially.

We proved last summer we can spend now, that isn't the issue.

IMO the only "tough" buys will be abroad (Tolisso, etc).

We can use our fringe players/youth players to lower the costs on players like K.Balde, Bernadeschi, etc. That's probably one of the main reasons why we are so focused on youth simply so we can use them are bargaining chips to lower the cost on players in Italy.

We need those difference makers. I maintain that I want Sanchez before anyone else. Then Tolisso. We already have Schick so after the first two we can buy local for all I care.

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Sure, but it was the same midfield that got us to the final as well. We mentally caved after the second goal, everyone was bad in possession. No reason at all we shouldn't have beat them yesterday.

From FI: "The Bianconeri were beaten 4-1 in Cardiff last night and a victory would’ve generated income of €113m from UEFA, sponsors, TV rights and ticket sales. "

 

[Hust]

From FI: "The Bianconeri were beaten 4-1 in Cardiff last night and a victory would’ve generated income of €113m from UEFA, sponsors, TV rights and ticket sales. "

Still a lot of money plus player sales.

 

[donpiero]

Nowadays the best defense is actually offense. Every foul is a yellow. Their first goal was 100% preventable but neither of our CMs wanted to make the tactical foul on Kroos during the counter and take an early yellow because just one more shaky challenge would produce a red.

Atletico and Juve have come up short in the CL despite having the best defense. It's better to defend with ball possession. It's better to keep Marcelo in his own half than to try and stop him in your half.

You don't go full BVB/Monaco/Man City but I wouldn't be against shifting a little more in that direction.

It is imperative that we identify a more clear formation before we act. We used 3 formations this year. 4-2-3-1, 3-5-2 and 3-4-3 in the later stages of the CL. It's good to have versatility but I'm not sure it was versatility as it was just Allegri searching (and finding) solution after solution.

My main concern is that Higuain and Dybala still don't look that comfortable together. Higuain in particular, was bought for 94M, because he played with outright wingers. And at Juve, that wasn't really the case.

We have a lot of good players still, obviously. But they don't naturally fit together. This season was saved because Mandzukic did everything humanly possible to produce from LM and because Dani Alves caught fire in the 2nd half.

I mean, to buy Higuain for 94M and then switch his service from Insigne/Callejon/Mertens to Mandzukic is literally the complete opposite type of player. I am not putting blame anywhere in particular because it worked out for the most part but we have to do better to fit our pieces together. I don't think it will work out so well in the future.

I think the fact that, once changing to winger-based formations, we stuck to those formations, despite our scarcity in that department (and also the type of players we've been linked with recently: D. Costa, Berna, Keita) is the indication of our desire to move to a winger-based formation once and for all.
So Gonzo's definitely gonna receive a better service come next season.