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[Elvin]

But that's the beauty of it, they won't just blatantly not call a 200% pk... they will give all 50/50 situations against us... and that's just enough to fuck with the team's head. Also that one pk that we did receive came when we didn't even need it... lol

This is just too much to be a coincidence.

 

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[baggio]

Trust me, we're so in over our heads because we are shit in front of goal so we need to be blaming somebody for not winning our matches. When you have 24 shots on goal and can't win a game, you've got nobody but yourself to blame.

 

[Elvin]

Silence is good because no matter what we say or do ends up hurting us. Better to keep silent and focus. Let them do whatever the fuck they want.

 

[JuveJay]

Trust me, we're so in over our heads because we are shit in front of goal so we need to be blaming somebody for not winning our matches. When you have 24 shots on goal and can't win a game, you've got nobody but yourself to blame.

I'm sure the players and staff are just as aware as the fans that we are not scoring chances we should do. If the officials disallow a valid goal then obviously they are partly to blame. Call me old fashioned but if you put the ball in the net from an onside position then it's a goal.

 

[Cronios]

Trust me, we're so in over our heads because we are shit in front of goal so we need to be blaming somebody for not winning our matches. When you have 24 shots on goal and can't win a game, you've got nobody but yourself to blame.

are you claiming that in the past 10 matches we never really earned a penalty??
The last 3 matches were quite fair imo, but before that, it was crystal clear that there was bias against us.
And its ok, it could be a coincidence, not to be a given a clear penalty, but 2 consecutive? 3? 5 ??
And sometimes you get the soft ones you dont really deserves, like the ones in the past 2-3 matches, but with us its different, we dont get neither the soft ones, nor the blatant ones.

Of course the timing is completely wrong atm, as we are no longer first and the championship is lost and above all, it did not happened right after the blatant ones, but the accumulated bias against is categoric at this point.
And the favorism on Milan is no longer needed, as they are in top form and score 3-4 goals/game, but when they had poor form, they relied on penalties and they were given with a consistency that goes beyond coincidence as well...

But of course this will not be the first time some ppl will turn a blind eye to this, they were saying the same things during calciopoli...
but the point is, that all this happened, so we cant win again...

 

[Elvin]

Remember how the whole Italy bashed Buffon for his post Milan-Juve comments... Buffon godddamn it, you'd think the people would be on the world cup winners side... on current NT captain's side... people may be, but the media is not, they don't give a fuck... they simply hate Juventus.

Hope this silence continues till the end of season. Actually... I would love it if we refused to ever speak to any media outlet bar Juventus channel.. forever.

 

[baggio]

I'm sure the players and staff are just as aware as the fans that we are not scoring chances we should do. If the officials disallow a valid goal then obviously they are partly to blame. Call me old fashioned but if you put the ball in the net from an onside position then it's a goal.

Is this the first time we've whined about things? If it was I'm all for it. But if you're going to be crying wolf every weekend when those calls were nowhere close to being 100% in your favour, then what kind of credibility are you expecting this silcence to command? This behaviour is borderline disgusting because we're acting like we are entitled to win matches.

This, coming on the back off our games with Chievo and Milan when we were absolutely abysmal. Its one thing to be a top scoring team thats been denied a few goals across 2 or 3 weekends. But its completely something else to be average in front of goal and have your own fair share of luck and still whine about it. You lose your cred in the process.

This is the most trivial Silenzo Stampa I've ever seen, being pretty old fashioned myself.

 

[JuveJay]

Is this the first time we've whined about things? If it was I'm all for it. But if you're going to be crying wolf every weekend when those calls were nowhere close to being 100% in your favour, then what kind of credibility are you expecting this silcence to command? This behaviour is borderline disgusting because we're acting like we are entitled to win matches.

This, coming on the back off our games with Chievo and Milan when we were absolutely abysmal. Its one thing to be a top scoring team thats been denied a few goals across 2 or 3 weekends. But its completely something else to be average in front of goal and have your own fair share of luck and still whine about it. You lose your cred in the process.

This is the most trivial Silenzo Stampa I've ever seen, being pretty old fashioned myself.

It's not about just this incident. How do you act as if you are entitled to win matches? I see it as an entitlement to have capable officials taking charge of games.

I can see why people would lay the blame solely with the team but there is cause and effect from officials that has directly affected our team and season.

 

[baggio]

are you claiming that in the past 10 matches we never really earned a penalty??
The last 3 matches were quite fair imo, but before that, it was crystal clear that there was bias against us.
And its ok, it could be a coincidence, not to be a given a clear penalty, but 2 consecutive? 3? 5 ??
And sometimes you get the soft ones you dont really deserves, like the ones in the past 2-3 matches, but with us its different, we dont get neither the soft ones, nor the blatant ones.

Of course the timing is completely wrong atm, as we are no longer first and the championship is lost and above all, it did not happened right after the blatant ones, but the accumulated bias against is categoric at this point.
And the favorism on Milan is no longer needed, as they are in top form and score 3-4 goals/game, but when they had poor form, they relied on penalties and they were given with a consistency that goes beyond coincidence as well...

But of course this will not be the first time some ppl will turn a blind eye to this, they were saying the same things during calciopoli...
but the point is, that all this happened, so we cant win again...

But that's the whole point Cron. Like I said, if this happened at one point, I'm all for it. But we whine about it week in and week out, then we're looking for alibis. And the reason I find this whole thing so sad is, the timing of course. Let's forget how Milan or anyone else behaves. We aren't at our A-game right now and therefore should be the last ones to blame anyone else.

We're behaving like bad losers IMO.

 

[Cronios]

yes the timing is teri-bad, there was a time for this and we let it go, now we look nothing but sore losers...

 

[baggio]

It's not about just this incident. How do you act as if you are entitled to win matches? I see it as an entitlement to have capable officials taking charge of games.

I can see why people would lay the blame solely with the team but there is cause and effect from officials that has directly affected our team and season.

Whose denying that? When Napoli's match was postponed for the strangest reasons ever, we didn't stand up to it. When there were a couple of dicey match calls that went against us previously we were quiet. Why do you think these things happened? Because we were winning.

Now, when our own game is falling apart and we're lacking in our own ability, we start blaming everything and everybody. Theres a time and place for everything. The context of this Silenzo means absolutely nothing, because if there was any credibility in it, it had to come at a time when we were the team everyone would bet their mother on, to win the scudetto. But at that point, Conte and co., were too busy being charismatic and were keen to let the media know how we didn't want to use the S word.

 

[Ahmed]

yes the timing is teri-bad, there was a time for this and we let it go, now we look nothing but sore losers...

sore drawers*

 

[Elvin]

that "looking like sore losers" thing will only be until our next win (which is vs Viola IMO).

 

[Cheesio]

sore drawers*

 

[JuveJay]

Whose denying that? When Napoli's match was postponed for the strangest reasons ever, we didn't stand up to it. When there were a couple of dicey match calls that went against us previously we were quiet. Why do you think these things happened? Because we were winning.

Now, when our own game is falling apart and we're lacking in our own ability, we start blaming everything and everybody. Theres a time and place for everything. The context of this Silenzo means absolutely nothing, because if there was any credibility in it, it had to come at a time when we were the team everyone would bet their mother on, to win the scudetto. But at that point, Conte and co., were too busy being charismatic and were keen to let the media know how we didn't want to use the S word.

I think you're reading too much into just the recent events, our protest isn't concentrated on the last game or last few weeks when we have struggled to score.

If the team was winning every game and on course for the scudetto then it'd be natural to only remark on decisions, put a smug face on and stick two fingers up. As decisions are playing a part in us not getting points we merit then it is also natural that this heightens the bad feeling.

Besides, you just said that if we whine about it every week we are looking for alibis, and now suggest that we haven't said anything up until recently. We clearly have, this is not the first time this season we have protested against decisions. More so in recent weeks precisely because they have been in close games, should that be a surprise? When things start to add up that is when people respond, not after the first incident and for each one that follows. That would be ridiculous.

As for the Napoli game, the club can't protest there, it would reflect badly and look unsympathetic considering people had died from flooding in Genoa days before and those in Napoli suffered flooding to their homes and businesses. We can have banter about it on a forum but that's another matter.

 

[Cronios]

sore drawers*

he he, true!

 

[Buck Fuddy]

I agree with almost everything Jay is saying in this thread.

It must therefore be utter bollocks.

 

[JuveJay]

I'm now going into silenzio stampa silenzio.

 

[Amer]

Silenzio stampa won't change anything.

 

[baggio]

Besides, you just said that if we whine about it every week we are looking for alibis, and now suggest that we haven't said anything up until recently. We clearly have, this is not the first time this season we have protested against decisions. More so in recent weeks precisely because they have been in close games, should that be a surprise? When things start to add up that is when people respond, not after the first incident and for each one that follows. That would be ridiculous.

When I say every week, I'm referring to recent events, especially since the time our form has been dipping, I did I think point out in my previous post that this is mounting frustration for the poor run we've had over the last month and a half. I don't think we can call games like the ones with Genoa or Chievo or even Milan or before that, Cesena or cite an example of any of the minnows that we drew with, close games. We totally dominated some of those games and had absolutely no end product and we were disinterested in some, but despite that had lapses in concentration that could've hurt us as bad but fortunately some calls didn't go against us either.

After a point we need to stop playing the blame game and take a long hard look at ourselves. Milan have scored 16 more goals than us. Sure, so they've had what 5 penalties that were gifted to them that won them crucial games?? That's still 11 clear goals more than us because they've also been more clinical. I can guarantee you, if there was a conspiracy against us we wouldn't be leading the table for as long as we did. We lack quality, and we are waking up to that fact by blaming the system. The refs and FiGC can't stop us from scoring in open play, but how can we blame them for throwing away a lead against Genoa at home, or more recently against Chievo or Cesena was it at home?! The close games that you talk about were all drawn, if there was a set-up, we could've easily lost those games. So I refuse to believe this is the sole reason for us not being at the top of the table.

As for the Napoli game, the club can't protest there, it would reflect badly and look unsympathetic considering people had died from flooding in Genoa days before and those in Napoli suffered flooding to their homes and businesses. We can have banter about it on a forum but that's another matter.

Sure. I agree. But if you think the club protesting like this right now doesn't reflect just as badly on us, then you're mistaken.