Shooting in USA-thread. (6 Viewers)

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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0,012% chance of getting murdered in Bolivia (2012). :shifty:
Simply not true. Bolivia has a homicide rate of 12.1 per 100,000 per year. You have to multiply that by life expectancy to get the probability of getting killed over your lifetime. That number turns out to be 0.84% (assuming a lifespan of 70 years)- twice that of the US.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Five pages here and maybe once or twice someone mentions these clowns are seemingly religious extremists or mentally inept or unstable. No, it was the gun's fault again. Apparently, they purchased the weapons legally and went through background checks. So unless we implement some type of Israel-like profiling and simply don't sell to Muslims, nothing would have changed this whatsoever.

I mean, I understand the appeal of guns. I can see why it might be fun to fire a gun, for sports, hell, maybe even for hunting. But the data show time and time again that as a means for protection they fall short and are in fact harmful. So why would you insist on saying you need them?
What data is that? What does law enforcement use to neutralize threats? What's the difference between a law-abiding, trained citizen owning a firearm and the police toting them around?

When you have a government that smuggles guns into Mexico, it's a little difficult to trust them in administering gun laws for its own citizens.

Yeah, $#@!ers we don't let on airplanes cause we're afraid they might crash in them into buildings can buy guns. Wanna know why? Cause maybe an innocent guy gets on the list and can't buy a gun.

Dumbest $#@! ever. We're the guy at the party that takes the date $#@! drug and then wonders why he wakes up with his pants around his ankles.

Thoughts and prayers bro, thoughts and prayers.
The no fly list is a joke too. No judge, no jury. Once you're on it, you can't get off. You can't even appeal it. Are you sure that's the best way to proceed? We already have a massive police state, maybe we need more.

A 0.4% chance is too high for a developed country, but the hyperbole of being afraid of traveling or living in the US due to the fear of being shot is ridiculous.
Similar to terrorism. It's actually even less of a chance. But instead, you have no fly lists, a total disregard for privacy, thousands of goons across the country feeling folks up at the airport for nothing other than a useless job, thousands of "officials" in the DHS sitting at a computer all day dreaming of when they can find some white guy to swat team (yet can't seem to catch anyway)... funny how you never hear about that from either party.

- - - Updated - - -

http://www.weeklystandard.com/white...control-will-deter-terrorists/article/2000061

Obama: We will enforce stricter gun laws to deter terrorism.

Terrorists: Oh SHIT, we better rethink this...

:rofl:
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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Five pages here and maybe once or twice someone mentions these clowns are seemingly religious extremists or mentally inept or unstable. No, it was the gun's fault again. Apparently, they purchased the weapons legally and went through background checks. So unless we implement some type of Israel-like profiling and simply don't sell to Muslims, nothing would have changed this whatsoever.
Lol, how are these guys getting in? Your security is ridiculous
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Five pages here and maybe once or twice someone mentions these clowns are seemingly religious extremists or mentally inept or unstable. No, it was the gun's fault again. Apparently, they purchased the weapons legally and went through background checks. So unless we implement some type of Israel-like profiling and simply don't sell to Muslims, nothing would have changed this whatsoever.
No one is saying the gun should go to prison.

But clearly it would help to have very strict gun laws. Less guns means less people killed by guns. This is so basic.. I can't believe that you are so unwilling to accept such a simple truth. And I don't know what good you think can come of your denial.

What data is that? What does law enforcement use to neutralize threats? What's the difference between a law-abiding, trained citizen owning a firearm and the police toting them around?
Don't ask me for the data. You'll just deny it anyway. It has been presented a thousand times before, why would you accept it now? As for the difference between a citizen and the police, you're kidding, right?
 

Enron

Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
75,661
Five pages here and maybe once or twice someone mentions these clowns are seemingly religious extremists or mentally inept or unstable. No, it was the gun's fault again. Apparently, they purchased the weapons legally and went through background checks. So unless we implement some type of Israel-like profiling and simply don't sell to Muslims, nothing would have changed this whatsoever.
We probably should not sell to muslims, goofy looking white people, white high school kids and NRA types. Require background checks for internet and gun show sales. Require extensive training and a recertification every few years. And yes, still not sell to people on the No Fly List. You know, do the reasonable things that reasonable people would do. The constitution says we should keep a well regulated militia, not an unregulated bunch of crazies.

But hey we can keep saying "we need more guns" and keep addressing the situation with thoughts and prayers because that's worked out so well so far.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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The solution is very simple

someone needs to develop a safer gun

that way we can prevent guns from doing horrible things like this
 

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