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[Ocelot]

Same could be said about human rights, geneva convention etc the legitimacy comes from consensus and not some sense of godly wisdom

If my only argument in favour of human rights would be a document from 1950, my overall case would be hella weak.

Fortunately there are more than enough arguments to support the human rights bill, though the wording of some could certainly be debated.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

If my only argument in favour of human rights would be a document from 1950, my overall case would be hella weak.

Fortunately there are more than enough arguments to support the human rights bill, though the wording of some could certainly be debated.

Kill electricity for one week and see how strongly believed in those concepts stay

 

[Ocelot]

Kill electricity for one week and see how strongly believed in those concepts stay

Just because they wouldn't stay doesn't mean they shouldn't stay

Btw you're basically supporting my argument to change/review concepts when circumstances change dramatically...like after 250 years of social & economic development

 

[Seven]

Kill electricity for one week and see how strongly believed in those concepts stay

I still say Revolution is a shit show.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Just because they wouldn't stay doesn't mean they shouldn't stay

Btw you're basically supporting my argument to change/review concepts when circumstances change dramatically...like after 250 years of social & economic development

Organically? Sure, entrusting the government with it, hell no

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I still say Revolution is a shit show.

Sure is

 

[Salvo]

Of course. But that's exactly what the left is saying. In fact their point is entirely logical: we see that more guns equals more gun violence. We see that less guns equals less violence. So let's have less guns. The right on the other hand is making an entirely emotional argument based on the fact that a couple of dudes in 1791 thought it was okay to have guns.

And that's just silly. Because you know what? I disagree with the 2nd amendment. Let's change it.

 

[Bjerknes]

Of course. But context is sort of lost on Andy in this debate it appears.

Tbh though I don't even understand why you'd think that a gun is necessary in urban areas.

I actually have family in Detroit. You have no idea what you're talking about and never will.

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So you are contending people shouldn't have access to fire arms? What if majority of people in the US support Thai right? What then

It doesn't matter what they think, because the Europeans know best for us. Sound familiar?

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I agree with a lot you wrote, but you place the right to bear arms at the same level of human rights. The right to bear arms is nowhere near that essential imo.

Great. But you don't offer any points or anything substantial in what you write.

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And that's just silly. Because you know what? I disagree with the 2nd amendment. Let's change it.

OK, great. I guess folks will see you in court.

 

[Seven]

I actually have family in Detroit. You have no idea what you're talking about and never will.

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It doesn't matter what they think, because the Europeans know best for us. Sound familiar?

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Great. But you don't offer any points or anything substantial in what you write.

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OK, great. I guess folks will see you in court.

Detroit? Lol. Detroit is not a city anymore.

And again, do you know what an amendment is? You seem to think it is holy.

 

[Salvo]

I'm confused, is it that you want to keep guns because of the amendment? Or rather that the guns aren't the issue?

 

[CrimsonianKing]

A group of 150 armed militia members (all white) take over a federal building saying they're willing to kill or die and I've yet to see a single headline call them terrorists. In fact The big media is silent... strange...
@swag

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ABC news calling it a "peaceful protest" ayy lmao

If only their skins were darker

 

[DutchJuventino]

Racist.

 

[Seven]

I'm confused, is it that you want to keep guns because of the amendment? Or rather that the guns aren't the issue?

Andy's right, because he actually has family in Detroit.

 

[swag]

A group of 150 armed militia members (all white) take over a federal building saying they're willing to kill or die and I've yet to see a single headline call them terrorists. In fact The big media is silent... strange...
@swag

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ABC news calling it a "peaceful protest" ayy lmao

If only their skins were darker

They generally need to harm civilians to fit the terrorist label, however. Until then, they're no more terrorists than David Koresh.

 

[lgorTudor]

The price for being and AMERICAN CITIZEN is NOT free, it's been paid for by our forefathers, our true patriots with honor and their lives, we owe back A COMMITMENT TO BEING THE BEST AMERICAN CITIZEN WE CAN BE.

 

[Salvo]

Andy's right, because he actually has family in Detroit.

 

[icemaη]

They generally need to harm civilians to fit the terrorist label, however. Until then, they're no more terrorists than David Koresh.

So a bunch of muslims can do the same thing without being labelled terrorists? I think not.

 

[Salvo]

The rule is that it's only terrorism if your Muslim.

 

[icemaη]

The rule is that it's only terrorism if your Muslim.

*you're

 

[Salvo]

*you're

I'm ashamed of myself.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I'm ashamed of myself.

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