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[Seven]

What I find funny is that many of the people arguing that more people should be armed are the same ones that also blame mental health every time it happens.

So we have too many crazy people, let's arm them.

They're just deflecting and it sounded like a nice approach, but if you think things through it's obviously bollocks. The gun lobby must be incredibly powerful though.

 

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[swag]

In short: don't take my guns away, it's only armed insane people that are the problem. Never armed sane people.

 

[Fake Melo]

Police Respond to Shooting Near Texas Southern University

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...w&hootPostID=e27eaf7e7f84dfe6e337c604475146ca

 

[swag]

Police Respond to Shooting Near Texas Southern University

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...w&hootPostID=e27eaf7e7f84dfe6e337c604475146ca

What's lame is that every time someone shoots a gun on a college campus, the media acts as if it's connected. There was the report from Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff overnight.

Now if two guys get drunk and in a fight, or if someone burgles a campus dorm and fires off a gun, the media is making all these stories out to be mass murder shootings.

 

[Maddy]

Guns aren't the problem. The American culture of violence and vigilante justice is. And of course the universal reasons to crime: inequality,[lack of] education, social mobility etc. (http://www.epi.org/publication/usa-lags-peer-countries-mobility/)

The american dream is a dream in America, but a reality in Scandinavia and Australia.

It's easier and faster to ban and/or limit guns rather than change the mentality of millions and make the much needed social and economical reforms (GO BERNIE!). Although the value of the message that is not accepting guns and a violent society should not be underestimated.

The idea that armed civilians is a preventive measure against crime is beyond stupid.

 

[Seven]

What's lame is that every time someone shoots a gun on a college campus, the media acts as if it's connected. There was the report from Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff overnight.

Now if two guys get drunk and in a fight, or if someone burgles a campus dorm and fires off a gun, the media is making all these stories out to be mass murder shootings.

They are connected by a culture that inspires people to use guns.

Guns aren't the problem. The American culture of violence and vigilante justice is. And of course the universal reasons to crime: inequality,[lack of] education, social mobility etc. (http://www.epi.org/publication/usa-lags-peer-countries-mobility/)

The american dream is a dream in America, but a reality in Scandinavia and Australia.

It's easier and faster to ban and/or limit guns rather than change the mentality of millions and make the much needed social and economical reforms (GO BERNIE!). Although the value of the message that is not accepting guns and a violent society should not be underestimated.

The idea that armed civilians is a preventive measure against crime is beyond stupid.

They don't exclude one another. A country where people are not obsessed with guns and violence will have no problem banning guns.

 

[Hust]

If Washington wants to eliminate guns from all of us, then, why don't they disarm their own security guards and make the Capital/Whitehouse a gun free zone?

 

[Bjerknes]

What, half of American households or males own at least one firearm?

You'd think that half of America would dead if you listened to the media, or the Europeans here.

We live in a complex society. If you ban the guns, you wouldn't change a thing. The good news is that the Democrats have zero credibility in any topic whatsoever and chances are the Republicans will win in 2016, so you can kiss the idea of confiscation or anything of the sort goodbye. That is one of the good things about the Republicans, if any.

As Alex Jones says, you'll never take our firearms!

/Close thread. Ya fags.

 

[Hust]

What, half of American households or males own at least one firearm?

You'd think that half of America would dead if you listened to the media, or the Europeans here.

We live in a complex society. If you ban the guns, you wouldn't change a thing. The good news is that the Democrats have zero credibility in any topic whatsoever and chances are the Republicans will win in 2016, so you can kiss the idea of confiscation or anything of the sort goodbye. That is one of the good things about the Republicans, if any.

As Alex Jones says, you'll never take our firearms!

/Close thread. Ya fags.

Did you see the interview Matt Drudge did with Alex Jones?

 

[Bjerknes]

Did you see the interview Matt Drudge did with Alex Jones?

Yes indeed, heard it live. Great stuff. That's America, not this crap in DC.

 

[Seven]

If Washington wants to eliminate guns from all of us, then, why don't they disarm their own security guards and make the Capital/Whitehouse a gun free zone?

That is something else though. In fact in most societies the government has a monopoly on violence.

 

[Seven]

What, half of American households or males own at least one firearm?

You'd think that half of America would dead if you listened to the media, or the Europeans here.

We live in a complex society. If you ban the guns, you wouldn't change a thing. The good news is that the Democrats have zero credibility in any topic whatsoever and chances are the Republicans will win in 2016, so you can kiss the idea of confiscation or anything of the sort goodbye. That is one of the good things about the Republicans, if any.

As Alex Jones says, you'll never take our firearms!

/Close thread. Ya fags.

Who is 'you'?

These are the ramblings of a paranoid man.

 

[swag]

We banned alcohol with the 18th amendment in 1919, and that didn't change a thing in society either.

 

[Martin]

We banned alcohol with the 18th amendment in 1919, and that didn't change a thing either.

i guess the logical conclusion is that nothing should be banned

 

[X Æ A-12]

Linebreak should definitely be banned.

 

[swag]

i guess the logical conclusion is that nothing should be banned

I was kind of being facetious. The 18th amendment changed society by creating the modern mafia, bloated the courts, corrupted public officials to an unprecedented degree, increased alcoholism, increased the fatality rate from drinking alcohol, boosted the patent medicine market, forced many restaurants to close, etc.

While the impact was counter-intuitive in some cases, the results were stark and staggering. So saying nothing would change is a bit flippant, really.

 

[Seven]

I was kind of being facetious. The 18th amendment changed society by creating the modern mafia, bloated the courts, corrupted public officials to an unprecedented degree, increased alcoholism, increased the fatality rate from drinking alcohol, boosted the patent medicine market, forced many restaurants to close, etc.

While the impact was counter-intuitive in some cases, the results were stark and staggering. So saying nothing would change is a bit flippant, really.

Alcohol is widespread and rather easy to make at a very low cost. People are also used to having it every day. You can't ban stuff like that. Same goes for drugs, that's a fight you don't win by banning it.

Guns are different though. People don't get addicted to them, you hardly use them and you need a factory to produce them.

You'll never get completely rid of them just by banning them, but you won't have crazed teens buying them at Walmart.

 

[Bjerknes]

Alcohol is widespread and rather easy to make at a very low cost. People are also used to having it every day. You can't ban stuff like that. Same goes for drugs, that's a fight you don't win by banning it.

Guns are different though. People don't get addicted to them, you hardly use them and you need a factory to produce them.

You'll never get completely rid of them just by banning them, but you won't have crazed teens buying them at Walmart.

Define "crazed teens." Or better yet, how would you wizard lawmakers decide who is a "crazed teen"?

 

[Seven]

Define "crazed teens." Or better yet, how would you wizard lawmakers decide who is a "crazed teen"?

We wouldn't have to. If it's difficult to get a gun, a depressed psycho misogynist isn't going to get one from hardcore criminals. At least it would be a very big hurdle.

Most people can't be responsible around alcohol and drugs and you want to give them something that can kill you? That's just crazy.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Guns aren't the problem. The American culture of violence and vigilante justice is. And of course the universal reasons to crime: inequality,[lack of] education, social mobility etc. (http://www.epi.org/publication/usa-lags-peer-countries-mobility/)

The american dream is a dream in America, but a reality in Scandinavia and Australia.

It's easier and faster to ban and/or limit guns rather than change the mentality of millions and make the much needed social and economical reforms (GO BERNIE!). Although the value of the message that is not accepting guns and a violent society should not be underestimated.

The idea that armed civilians is a preventive measure against crime is beyond stupid.

Yeah, untrained (and uneducated) civilians with guns would cause more harm than good. It's like giving airplane passengers parachutes. Lives wouldn't be saved.

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We wouldn't have to. If it's difficult to get a gun, a depressed psycho misogynist isn't going to get one from hardcore criminals. At least it would be a very big hurdle.

Most people can't be responsible around alcohol and drugs and you want to give them something that can kill you? That's just crazy.

http://archive.cincinnati.com/artic...4/12-years-added-sentence-killing-woman-fetus

That guy killed his friend's pregnant girlfriend while playing with his gun in his room. Dude was drunk and high on weed... and he wasn't just any noob. He had been to Iraq twice.

I actually knew the guy from an online chat He was a total dick.