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[Hust]

Alcohol is widespread and rather easy to make at a very low cost. People are also used to having it every day. You can't ban stuff like that. Same goes for drugs, that's a fight you don't win by banning it.

Guns are different though. People don't get addicted to them, you hardly use them and you need a factory to produce them.

You'll never get completely rid of them just by banning them, but you won't have crazed teens buying them at Walmart.

You don't need a factory to produce them. You can buy the parts from overseas and put them together. You can actually make your own rounds in your basement providing you get the shells and gunpowder.

 

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[Bjerknes]

The idea that armed civilians is a preventive measure against crime is beyond stupid.

Of course it is, and law enforcement in this country (the experts, not you) confirm this.

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We wouldn't have to. If it's difficult to get a gun, a depressed psycho misogynist isn't going to get one from hardcore criminals. At least it would be a very big hurdle.

Most people can't be responsible around alcohol and drugs and you want to give them something that can kill you? That's just crazy.

You didn't answer the question.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Well, anyone can get a gun from the deep web these days.

 

[Seven]

You don't need a factory to produce them. You can buy the parts from overseas and put them together. You can actually make your own rounds in your basement providing you get the shells and gunpowder.

Still a big hurdle.

Of course it is, and law enforcement in this country (the experts, not you) confirm this.

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You didn't answer the question.

I didn't need to. The problem wouldn't present itself. You act as if banning them would be discriminatory and you need a justification. But it wouldn't be as everyone is treated exactly the same. Your knowledge about law is severely lacking.

 

[Bjerknes]

Still a big hurdle.

I didn't need to. The problem wouldn't present itself. You act as if banning them would be discriminatory and you need a justification. But it wouldn't be as everyone is treated exactly the same. Your knowledge about law is severely lacking.

The 2nd amendment is already existing law. Good luck with that.

 

[Seven]

The 2nd amendment is already existing law. Good luck with that.

Do you know what an amendment is? And do you know what the Supreme Court has already ruled about this amendment?

 

[Enron]

Well, anyone can get a gun from the deep web these days.

You can also get a gun from any ghetto in any big city. But let's be honest here, how many angry white kids are gonna do their shopping in Niggavile, USA when they can buy guns without a background check from the internet.

 

[Seven]

You can also get a gun from any ghetto in any big city. But let's be honest here, how many angry white kids are gonna do their shopping in Niggavile, USA when they can buy guns without a background check from the internet.

And that is exactly why the whole pro gun lobby does not have a point when they say you can still buy guns from criminals. Of course that's always a possibility. But it will be difficult to locate sellers and these angry white kids will be scared. Because they're tough with a gun, but not so much without. And when they find a seller, the gun will be expensive too. Refusing to see how this would prevent at least some cases is a matter of ill will imo.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

You can also get a gun from any ghetto in any big city. But let's be honest here, how many angry white kids are gonna do their shopping in Niggavile, USA when they can buy guns without a background check from the internet.

What's the background check supposed to look for, coz niggas who go postal are squeak clean

 

[Enron]

What's the background check supposed to look for, coz niggas who go postal are squeak clean

Don't know but it still seems silly that of all the ways to buy a gun, you don't need a background check for the internet.

 

[Seven]

What's the background check supposed to look for, coz niggas who go postal are squeak clean

Not to mention that if you make the debate about background checks, you are starting an endless discussion about what needs to be taken into account.

 

[Fake Melo]

On an average day, 88 Americans are killed with guns.

http://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-by-the-numbers/

 

[Seven]

If you still want to preserve the right to bear arms, perhaps Iceland can be an example: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22288564

Apparently they require extensive medical examinations and a written exam. Note however that Iceland does not appear to have a very violent culture as most policemen are unarmed.. Given the geographical uniqueness I'm also not sure how this would translate to the US.

 

[X Æ A-12]

On an average day, 88 Americans are killed with guns.

http://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-by-the-numbers/

That low? Sounds like a slow weekend in Chicago

 

[JuveJay]

On an average day, 88 Americans are killed with guns.

http://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-by-the-numbers/

Damn the gangster rap years were really tough.

 

[X Æ A-12]

If you still want to preserve the right to bear arms, perhaps Iceland can be an example: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22288564

Apparently they require extensive medical examinations and a written exam. Note however that Iceland does not appear to have a very violent culture as most policemen are unarmed.. Given the geographical uniqueness I'm also not sure how this would translate to the US.

Im all for it. Bring on the extensive background checks, gun safety classes whatever.

 

[swag]

Im all for it. Bring on the extensive background checks, gun safety classes whatever.

It is lame that the responsible people with guns are so easily lumped into the same pile as the clueless.

 

[X Æ A-12]

While we're at it I don't think driving should just be a right either. Waaaay too many people on the road who have no business with that kind of power. Should be a no tolerance policy for DUI as well

 

[Seven]

While we're at it I don't think driving should just be a right either. Waaaay too many people on the road who have no business with that kind of power. Should be a no tolerance policy for DUI as well

You have to pass exams though. And when you get convicted for DUI's they can take your license away in most countries.

 

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And that is exactly why the whole pro gun lobby does not have a point when they say you can still buy guns from criminals. Of course that's always a possibility. But it will be difficult to locate sellers and these angry white kids will be scared. Because they're tough with a gun, but not so much without. And when they find a seller, the gun will be expensive too. Refusing to see how this would prevent at least some cases is a matter of ill will imo.

Wrong.

An angry white kid with a stack of $100 bills looking to buy a gun won't have any problem finding a guy in the ghetto to do business with. That kind of shit happens all the time, same ways kids on crack go looking in "niggaville" for their next fix. Money talks and assuming it wouldn't be easy to get a gun if illegal is absolutely foolish.