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The fact is technology for flood prevention in both Louisiana and Mississippi has been available for year. Scientists had said again and again if you don't do something, you'll be sorry. In addition, meteorological computer models predicted the devastation caused by Katrina 10 years prior to it actually happening. Both State and Federal governments chose to ignore those facts as they have ignored the facts you listed. You can say Katrina was the result of a "to do" list that was way too big and that probably is true in this case. But does that make it ok? I understand when you say it's easy for the Dutch and the like to concentrate on one area while in the US we have to concentrate much more. That really seems like a weak excuse. The US is one of the greatest countries in the world and handling multiple problems shouldn't really be an issue.
Yep, but tax payer money is allocated to more frightening issues, like those horrible immigrants sneaking over our borders. That's why we're going to waste 2 billion US erecting fences from Brownsville to Mexicalli while we hand out contracts for Port security to Arab companies.
 

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What houses in the world aren't made out of wood?

The ones made out of concrete, steel, and glass?

Where do they build strictly concrete houses? Or only steel houses?

And Seven needs to stop living in his glass house...
Youv'e never seen the glass bottle house in death Valley?
 

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The point I was making is that we're better at preventing tragedies. It's insane to build wooden houses in an area such as New Orleans, yet it still happened. Now compare that to what the Dutch did.

Don't give me the mother nature shit. Some things are too hard to handle. Katrina wasn't.
You're better at preventing natural disasters than the U.S.? What, Belgium has a weather control machine now?
 

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Yep, but tax payer money is allocated to more frightening issues, like those horrible immigrants sneaking over our borders. That's why we're going to waste 2 billion US erecting fences from Brownsville to Mexicalli while we hand out contracts for Port security to Arab companies.
Gotta love those John McCain priorities.:melayyanandmessi:
 

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He thinks Europe could deal with a Category Five Hurricane striking London, Coruna, or Den Haag. Oh man, if that was actually possible (and might be possible in the future) he's going to look really foolish. Low-lying cities in Europe would be destroyed a la New Orleans.
Truth is, there really isn't a city that could stand up to a true Category 5. That said, Katrina was a weak Cat 5 as it lost a lot of power before landfall. It really wasn't the Hurricane the did in New Orleans, it was the failure to prepare for the amount of water they dealt with. A system of dykes or damns or even a few rebuilt wetlands partnered with a working levy would have ensured significantly less damage. Or so I've read.
 

Seven

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What houses in the world aren't made out of wood?

The ones made out of concrete, steel, and glass?

Where do they build strictly concrete houses? Or only steel houses?

And Seven needs to stop living in his glass house...
What the fuck are you talking about? There are simply no houses made out of wood over here. It's something people just don't do.

We in regards to Katrina, Seven does have a point. Several low lying European nations have taken precautions against rising tides and severe storm systems regardless of the likelihood of a massive event. While here in the US where we experience large storms systems and natural disasters on a yearly basis, yet we do not take any precautions to prevent tragedies such as Katrina.
Don't argue with them. Any argument I give is either dismissed as European snobbage or a European minority complex. Which is a bit strange as that's exact the reaction most of the American powers that be are aiming for. You'd expect a more educated response from people who go to university, but I guess most hope is lost there as well.

He thinks Europe could deal with a Category Five Hurricane striking London, Coruna, or Den Haag. Oh man, if that was actually possible (and might be possible in the future) he's going to look really foolish. Low-lying cities in Europe would be destroyed a la New Orleans.
We'd do a hell of a lot better than New Orleans.

This is just typical European snobbage. Just like when that European writer wrote in the wake of Katrina that the US is the most uncivilized nation on earth, we will always have to deal with somebody making absurd statements and notions that can be easily dispelled with a little knowledge of history and science.
The US is the most uncivilised nation on the face of the earth. The Holocaust and Mao's regime are quite probably the only things that overrule the atrocities committed by the grand old US of A when it comes to the last 60 years of history. Oh and he's "European"? Name a country FFS. Don't be such a moron and show some culture.

The fact is technology for flood prevention in both Louisiana and Mississippi has been available for year. Scientists had said again and again if you don't do something, you'll be sorry. In addition, meteorological computer models predicted the devastation caused by Katrina 10 years prior to it actually happening. Both State and Federal governments chose to ignore those facts as they have ignored the facts you listed. You can say Katrina was the result of a "to do" list that was way too big and that probably is true in this case. But does that make it ok? I understand when you say it's easy for the Dutch and the like to concentrate on one area while in the US we have to concentrate much more. That really seems like a weak excuse. The US is one of the greatest countries in the world and handling multiple problems shouldn't really be an issue.
No argument to them. It's all about Europeans thinking they're better than Americans.

Yes, enjoy your utopia. I will put in a good word for you with Fearless Leader Mr. Leterme so you can earn your propaganda merit badge and hold hands with your compatriots and sing about how nothing bad ever happens in your perfect world -- unlike those monstrously inferior societies overseas. Hey, that kind of head-in-the-sand belief system worked for Khrushchev during the cold war.

You're obviously an intelligent person -- albeit naive, a victim of your own hubris, and sometimes belligerent. Maybe those latter qualities will change as you get older and see and experience more of the world, but I'm not going to wait on that.

Thank you for wasting my time.
So you googled Belgium. I'm impressed. Now explain me who exactly Mr. Leterme is. Nice to see you're putting in some communist terms as well there, my friend. Because propaganda = communism, right?

But hey, you're an American. I don't blame you. Like I said at the beginning, it's very hard for an American to get a clear picture. Most of you are quite simply conditioned to think in certain patterns. The constant reference to communism being one of them.

Oh, and swag: most of the rest of the world does not exactly share your American views, so I doubt my view would change ;).
 

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@Andries

You should come to America no matter. Just see for yourself. There are a lot of things that make our country great that really can't be explained over an internet forum. So come live here for a year, six months, or a summer or something and then make your decision.
 

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lol, houses aren't made out of brick just because that's what's on the outside. that's like saying they are made out of aluminum siding.

The interior framing and support structure is all wooden, broseppi.
People are starting to use synthetics too.
 

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But hey, you're an American. I don't blame you. Like I said at the beginning, it's very hard for an American to get a clear picture. Most of you are quite simply conditioned to think in certain patterns. The constant reference to communism being one of them.
@Andries

You should come to America no matter. Just see for yourself. There are a lot of things that make our country great that really can't be explained over an internet forum. So come live here for a year, six months, or a summer or something and then make your decision.
So wait. All this expert spouting about America from Andries and the guy has never set foot in this continent?

:lol2:

I rest my case. But shame on me for trying to have a conversation with someone whose national census includes imaginary brothers.
 

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Brick, steel and glass. What else would they be made out of?
Plasma.

No, not blood plasma -- closer to the stuff they make flat screen TVs out of. Superheated ionized gas. It's really quite something, and the energy can form any piece of furniture you need at a moment's notice.

It's really quite fantastic. But since they're in America, they are all bound to create a magnetic field so strong it will shoot out the earth's iron core through Enron's house any day now -- causing the Earth to death spiral into the sun.

If only we had given better service in our mental hospitals...
 

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