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Apr 12, 2004
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Dude, seriously. It's not. I have never seen a wooden support structure in Belgium. We might have some wooden cottages in forests, but a wooden support structure? That's just insane.
But factual. Brick by itself is not very good at all at holding weight. If you rip one of two layers of brick off a house, it is much more than structurally unsound.

I'm telling you, the flying buttresses and band boards, and floor joists are all wooden.

That is the main support structure. The Steel would be too heavy and expensive. Concrete would be possible though.

Andries, I think you are out on this one unless you can prove to me otherwise, as I spent about 8 or 10 months framing houses.
 

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Andries, you're speaking out of both corners of your mouth.

"I'm serious."

"No, I was just yanking their chain."

"But really..."

There are a select few who can pull off that balancing act. (e.g., Jon Stewart with his, "It's fake news!"/"No, these are real politicians.") But on you, you just contradict yourself and look like you want it both ways while knowing full well you can't have even one of either.
Not sure what you mean. I stand behind those three points, that's it basically. Seriously, Greg, I can't believe Andy took the comment about America being uncivilised seriously. I just quoted some EUROPEAN author remember.

But factual. Brick by itself is not very good at all at holding weight. If you rip one of two layers of brick off a house, it is much more than structurally unsound.

I'm telling you, the flying buttresses and band boards, and floor joists are all wooden.

That is the main support structure. The Steel would be too heavy and expensive. Concrete would be possible though.

Andries, I think you are out on this one unless you can prove to me otherwise, as I spent about 8 or 10 months framing houses.
The main support structure is mostly concrete and steel. Not sure about how steel translates though as it is not something that can't move at all as you make it sound. Honestly Burke: very few houses in Belgium have wood in them. The ones that do are usually situated in forests and are built in wood just to make them fit in the environment. A wooden structure is very rare.

NO WOODEN SUPPORT STRUCTURE, SEE???


Like I said, wooden houses are usually made in an environment that makes them look good. You won't find wooden houses in areas that can be flooded easily though.
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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Like I said, wooden houses are usually made in an environment that makes them look good. You won't find wooden houses in areas that can be flooded easily though.
Are you sure that you're not the child of some Austrian freak show who has your sister handcuffed in the cellar next to you for sexual favors?

You really don't sound like you've seen much of civilization at all.

Time to start telling you about the apes that evolved from men that live in certain parts of U.S. Eastern seaboard. :shifty:
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Andy, every time you have me thinking you're not full of crap. You're like a kid I know who likes to use fancy words. He sounds intelligent, until you actually listen and know he's talking about nothing at all.
Oh cut the crap, Andries. You were presented a way to escape an argument and you took it. You should be a politician.
 

.zero

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The main support structure is mostly concrete and steel. Not sure about how steel translates though as it is not something that can't move at all as you make it sound. Honestly Burke: very few houses in Belgium have wood in them. The ones that do are usually situated in forests and are built in wood just to make them fit in the environment. A wooden structure is very rare.

just out of curiosity, are most residential structures (in heavily populated areas, not small towns or villages) recently built (+20-30 years) or old? the reason why i ask is when i think of europe, i think of modern built around the old world.
 

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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I don't know about what structure is better or what not, but houses/apartments in Sweden are rarely (and I stress that) made out of wood. The only ones I've seen are on the country side and they're purposely built that way to blend in.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Ummmmm, but that goes without saying.
Yeah, I supposed so, but most houses in New Orleans were mad of wood. Which didn't really help I guess. It's just weird for us to see that people build houses in wood, it's almost something medieval to us.

Are you sure that you're not the child of some Austrian freak show who has your sister handcuffed in the cellar next to you for sexual favors?

You really don't sound like you've seen much of civilization at all.

Time to start telling you about the apes that evolved from men that live in certain parts of U.S. Eastern seaboard. :shifty:
Because we Europeans buillt houses made of stone? We don't build castles if that's what you mean.

just out of curiosity, are most residential structures (in heavily populated areas, not small towns or villages) recently built (+20-30 years) or old? the reason why i ask is when i think of europe, i think of modern built around the old world.
It depends. In Antwerp for example you have a lot of truly old buildings, but nearly all of them have been restructured. Most buildings in the city are what you call recently built though. I am always under the impression Americans build houses that last 10 to 20 years, while Europeans build houses that can last up to 100 years.
 

Sadomin

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Apr 5, 2005
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I don't know about what structure is better or what not, but houses/apartments in Sweden are rarely (and I stress that) made out of wood. The only ones I've seen are on the country side and they're purposely built that way to blend in.
Hmm, I'd say the opposite. Wooden houses are quite common in Sweden, I'm sitting in one right now. Not talking about appartments but actual suburbian houses.
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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Yeah, I supposed so, but most houses in New Orleans were mad of wood. Which didn't really help I guess. It's just weird for us to see that people build houses in wood, it's almost something medieval to us.



Because we Europeans buillt houses made of stone? We don't build castles if that's what you mean.
Because you're guilty of gross, and externally ignorant, ethnocentrism here.

"Just because here A makes sense and B doesn't, that's true for everywhere."

This is just as bad as the American politicians who want to export American-style democracy everywhere as if it were cans of Coca-Cola.
 
Jan 7, 2004
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i read an article in the paper today calling the for the socialization of Canada, something about Canadians not being proud to be better than the US but feel bad how they are behind Europe
 

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