so apart from the result, what did we learn from todays game ?
ciro did not change the formation, so you can't blame the bad results on ranieris bad formation
ciro did not use his subs much earlier so either he is a bad coach too or both or right to use the subs rather late
ciro did bring mellberg for de ceglie, that is a typical ranieri substitution, but i don't see much crying here
ciro did not bring giovinco ... i know that you will never accept that, but many coaches did deny giovinco a starting spot, but as always the fans know better ...
don't get me wrong. a change of scene was needed to make a break and the sacking of the coach was the simplest solution.
yes ferrara had the impact we hoped for, because the motivation seemed to be there again, but it is really sad that you have to motivate players who earn millions a year to give their best on the pitch. i know many here would kill to step once on the pitch for the beloved juve club and wear the shirt, but as you see with those players ... the richer they get, the less hungry they are.
What a bitter owl there, still discredits our players to defend CR
Ciro got rid of the offside trap and the long balls that ruined every game for us in the past 2 months .. Plus, Ferrara surely knows how to organize the defence .. TACTICS is not all about formations and substitutions .. CIRO did change a lot in this game ..

We were conceding at least one goal per match from the offside trap, who failed to intercept vertical passes.
As of lately, each and every team we faced, knew how to beat us and used that tactic.
For months and months i was expecting from CR to find smth to counter this, but he never came up with smth. Ciro, may not be a complete coach just yet, but as an experienced leader and defender, did noticed that and actually did smth about it!! That was the least and the most i was expecting from Ferrara.
I didnt expect to make any other chances, because he doesnt have the necessary time to do so!
The increased determination was a bonus, that did made the difference in our case. Determination alone is not enough to win games,, but thats the only thing we lacked against the lesser teams lately.
Getting rid of Marchionni's and Moli's long crosses is still not confirmed, as Ciro's quality.
Ferrara: Mission Accomplished! Sunday 24 May, 2009
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Ciro Ferrara is celebrating his first Juventus match and the fact he has already taken the team to automatic Champions League qualification.
“It was a wonderful day, but above all I am happy with the reaction and performance of the squad,” said the new Coach who replaced Claudio Ranieri this week.
Thanks to the 3-0 victory away to Siena, Fiorentina's 1-1 at Lecce and Milan's 3-2 home defeat to Roma, Juve are guaranteed a top three finish.
One of Ferrara's first moves was bringing Alessandro Del Piero back to the starting XI and he was repaid with a brace.
“I had to tell him off, as he needs to let me be more relaxed on the bench!” laughed Ferrara.
“He had the chances to finish off the game and should've taken them. He scored a good third, but he needs to help us all take it a bit easier.
“I wasn't here in previous games, so I don't know what happened and what was asked of the players. I know that I did request lots of hard work from Del Piero both in attack and coming back to help the defence.”
It was Juventus' first win since March after a seven-match winless streak and marked a big turnaround from recent performances.
“Siena had a very strong start and created a few problems for us, but for the rest of the time I think Juve played with a real spirit of sacrifice from all its men.
“I believe that when there is a change of management, there is always going to be a shake-up in terms of motivation.
“Even if it wasn't me on the bench, the players would've felt responsible and realised exactly what it is we're gambling with here.
“We had to go and get the direct Champions League qualification and perhaps something a little more.”
Ferrara has said he wanted to make it a permanent job on the Bianconeri bench, but faces competition from Bari boss Antonio Conte.
“Conte sent me a message wishing me luck.”
Very fair comments by our coach there. It was about time we were sparred with the lame ones. Impressive to see that Ciro took no credit for himself and also avoided to bash CR's work and efficiency, claiming that our players would have done the same anyway, when it was crystal clear that they wouldnt!