[Serie A] Udinese-Juventus (22 Viewers)

djleli · Sep 22, 2005

its obvious: last match vs ascoli camoranesi looked tired so he didnt have another 90 minutes on him, while the gianicheda start is also abvious we have to play in the champions league with viera so its time that giannicheda becomes adjusted to our play thats why he started

Cronios · Sep 22, 2005

Holygr4le

Well said!!!
V.good post ands ratings!

I wanted to add smth about Blasi:

he was good,positive alright,one of our best players, i agree,
he mooved a lot and offered in attack (with a critical contribution),
things that may impress everyone,
but dont forget a RB is a back and above all he must be a good defender who will DEFEND our team,
the man isnt a defender,
i m sure Chiellini can do the same tricks and the only reason he is benched is because he isnt considered defensively as solid as Zebina, or even Balzaretti,we arent Real,we need solid defenders
and Blasi isnt that solid,i believe what Cap does is a mistake,
one day Juve will pay it and the we will be forced ti swich player again,
switching player in defence is the best way to ruin it.
blasi cant be our main player for this position,
i hope we wont end up to Salgado xmas.

Holygr4le · Sep 22, 2005

Thanks...

Cronios · Sep 22, 2005

If u were the ref, watching Udine players make desperate dives all day long,u know that those players dont play but "simulate"
and u werent sure about the situation,
who would u trust, one of the best defenders in the world who knows millions ways to deposses world class attackers
or a desperate diving before even touch the ball unexperianced attacker?

As i said from the beginning of the game,
the Udinese players know they cant score like men and they will try to win a penalty,
bad luck for them, they arent better artists than football players.

And i dont afraid to admit we had some luck on this game
and not the extraterestrial "determination" Milan had last year in the last minutes...

in rest i agree with u...

PS:any word about the first Gila goal?

Cronios · Sep 22, 2005

U welcome, keep up the good work! :angel:

Maresca · Sep 22, 2005

++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++

An offside and a PK is night and day...

More to point of Ibra...last season people spoke of Kaka having a sophmore slump type of season despite the fact that he fed enough passes to keep Milan afloat to battle for both the CL and Scudetto titles till the end. Unfortunately, Ibra is doing neither..scoring or passing. He seems frustrated and is also selfish at times. Probably because he wants to be back on top...this frustration coupled with Del Piero's BITE may just see him riding the bench soon.
In my mind if you have a Del Piero who is on-form and in mental shape (we all know his bouts of low morale can kill him) then no player on Juve comes close to him..not Nedved nor Ibra. I just can't believe the bullsh*t I read on these pages (esp. the Ascoli game thread) where so-called Juventini are arguing that HE should be benched...
WAKE UP..its the Del Piero's ...the Maldini's and the Shevchenko's that seperate MIlan and Juve from Inter....players that care...players playing for more than their paycheck..players who grew up in the team or arrived at a young age where they cried tears of joy and pain for the team .. players that at the end of the day care first about the team and second about their 'status'.

wau, great post. it is so sad that a milan fan show us what DP is. I hope all anti DP users here will read this.
thanks nick.

Maresca · Sep 22, 2005

WTF,
I can tell you why zlatan did not so good, we played defensively and he was often alone up front. I am sure if trez had played yesterday he was gonna be even worse.

Maresca · Sep 22, 2005

do you understand something in football, I think it was a very clever decision from Capello to play with 3 DM, we played away from home against a strong team, this means we need more controll in midfield and strong defence.

Blasi is amazing in the right side, I mean he is surly better than Zebina, Brindelli and pessoto. I feel more confident seeing Blasi in this position. btw he gave the cross for DP before viera scored.

Cronios · Sep 22, 2005

Confident on attacking activities but is Blasi a better defender than last year's Zebina?

Maresca · Sep 22, 2005

yes, I have never been confident with zebina

DelpieroForLife · Sep 22, 2005

++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++

An offside and a PK is night and day...

More to point of Ibra...last season people spoke of Kaka having a sophmore slump type of season despite the fact that he fed enough passes to keep Milan afloat to battle for both the CL and Scudetto titles till the end. Unfortunately, Ibra is doing neither..scoring or passing. He seems frustrated and is also selfish at times. Probably because he wants to be back on top...this frustration coupled with Del Piero's BITE may just see him riding the bench soon.
In my mind if you have a Del Piero who is on-form and in mental shape (we all know his bouts of low morale can kill him) then no player on Juve comes close to him..not Nedved nor Ibra. I just can't believe the bullsh*t I read on these pages (esp. the Ascoli game thread) where so-called Juventini are arguing that HE should be benched...
WAKE UP..its the Del Piero's ...the Maldini's and the Shevchenko's that seperate MIlan and Juve from Inter....players that care...players playing for more than their paycheck..players who grew up in the team or arrived at a young age where they cried tears of joy and pain for the team .. players that at the end of the day care first about the team and second about their 'status'.

Spot on Nick, quality post...

sateeh · Sep 22, 2005

well i just meant that evreyone wanted to see the 4-3-3 formation and now we got it, but with a different more balanced approach.But also everyone just doesnt like it .

am sorry if i said anything wrong about anyone but am a little pissed off

Maher · Sep 22, 2005

we played in a 4-5-1 formation , it was strange

sateeh · Sep 22, 2005

exaccctlllyyy spot onn all the wayy. Udinese are not a small side.They are a side that worked hard for the past 5 yrs at least in building their team. And their success last year just shows they r a quality side

Cronios · Sep 22, 2005

u mean we couldnt afford a more attacking scheme,
i agree Udinese ie v.dangerous team, even without Iaquinta
and they are always extra motiveted when they play against us,
that was a good formation for the draw,
the people who doesnt like it ask for more,
most of the times last year when we had the same attacking we couldnt score

Cronios · Sep 22, 2005

Neither am i, but i also never been confident on Blasi either

Eire · Sep 22, 2005

it took zambrotta quite a while to learn develop and flurish as a left back, lippi did not just play him left back and after one or two games become one of the best LB in the world, it took time.

give blasi a chance i agree with maresca, i have more faith in him than i do in zebina.

altough two other possibilities i would like to see

zambro canna kovac/thuram cheillini

or

thuram canna kovac zambro

this last one looking very strong and experienced i know thuram is not as fast as he once was and is more comfortable in the centre but he still is a class RB

Maresca · Sep 22, 2005

Le invenzioni di Capello
22 09 2005

Grazia Neri
A prescindere dal pizzico di fortuna che la Juve ha avuto contro l'Udinese, al Friuli la grande novità è stata la capacità di Fabio Capello di trasformare la squadra in base alle necessità.

La panchina più lunga rispetto alla scorsa stagione consente la tecnico friulano di modellare la squadra e di presentare anche un modulo diverso dal 4-4-2 classico.

Contro l'Udinese i bianconeri di Torino sono scesi in campo con un 4-3-2-1. Consapevole infatti di aver una squadra affaticata per gli impegni ravvicinati tra campiontao e coppa, Capello ha messo una diga davanti alla difesa schierando insieme Vieira, Emerson e Giannichedda per arginare le incursioni dei friulani.

La soluzione offensiva con Ibrahimovic unica punta supportato nell'occasione da Del Piero e Nedved, può consentire in futuro a Capello di fare maggiore turnover con gli attaccanti a sua disposizione a partire da Mutu che in un modulo di questo tipo potrebbe coesistere con Del Piero.

L'altra invenzione 'capelliana' è stato lo spostamento di Blasi a destra che consente al giocatore di sfruttare al meglio le sue doti tecniche e fisiche.

Maresca · Sep 22, 2005

++ [ originally posted by Eire ] ++
it took zambrotta quite a while to learn develop and flurish as a left back, lippi did not just play him left back and after one or two games become one of the best LB in the world, it took time.

give blasi a chance i agree with maresca, i have more faith in him than i do in zebina.

altough two other possibilities i would like to see

zambro canna kovac/thuram cheillini

or

thuram canna kovac zambro

this last one looking very strong and experienced i know thuram is not as fast as he once was and is more comfortable in the centre but he still is a class RB

the time of thuram as RB is over. definitly. I would rather say
zambro canna kovac/thuram cheillini

is the strongest solution.

Eire · Sep 22, 2005

maybe you are right but with 2 excellent def midfielders in emo and vieira and camo always willing to track back and fight for possession thurams age might not be found out while his calmness on the ball would be a benefit.

but i have to say i am impressed with kovac
i remember in pre season cannavaro said he was a special player, im sure canna would be as good a person as anybody to judge defenders

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