Serie A: Juventus vs Inter [November 4 2007] (3 Viewers)

[The Arif]

Let's talk about that. I was thinking this would be the number one topic.

I actually think it was a good choice. Sure we screwed up once and it costed a goal, but that was a calculated risk IMO.

1- Off side trap reduces the field. On a smaller field Zanetti and Nocerino had an easier job to fight for the ball. More space would've made Figo far more dangerous, and would've allowed their full backs to make more forward runs.
2- Both Zlatan and Cruz are tall strikers. Allowing them to control passes too close to our goal would've been very dangerous. Especially as neither of our centre backs excel at headers.
3- Sitting deeper would have given Zlatan enough space to take our defenders on one on ones. On Sunday, everytime he touched a ball, Chiellini was up his ass. You can't do that if you don't play offside.
4- Zlatan and Cruz aren't the fastest strikers out there. When Cruz scored the goal, he took advantage of being left alone between Leggro (who stood there marking noone) and Grygera (who first took Cruz, then hesitated, and picked Figo).

We conceded one goal alright, but we denied them 10 attacks in the first half only. IMO, the defence did a good job, and we could've won this if our midfield had taken over theirs earlier.

What you think?

 

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[Salvatore]

With risky defenders like Legro and co. I think we should hold back on the offside thing. They seem to do well 99% of a match and ruin it in the space of a minute.

 

[Geof]

And take a look at the guy attacking from the left side.
Just how many times did Molinaro and Grygera leave all the space in the world to Figo and Cesar ?
In this situation i wonder why is Legro so far from Cruz and why is Grygera where he is ?

Spot on! I was preparing this post:

1. Leggro left Cruz in his back. Grygera has to chose between Figo and Cruz.

2. Cesar is making the pass, Grygera decides to go for Cruz, leaving Figo unmarked. Leggro stands between Ibra and Cruz, a bit clueless.

3. The pass is given, Leggro comes back on Cruz but will be too late, Grygera wants to cover for Figo instead of going for Cruz at this moment.

4. Leggro is behind, Chiellini gives everything and will come back. Grygera doesn't know what to do.

5. Grygera decides to stop right there... Leggro and Chiellini are too late. Buffon can't do anything.

6. Grygera has stopped, Buffon is beaten, goal.

 

[Marceℓℓo]

Class post Geof.

+rep

 

[Boksic]

Spot on! I was preparing this post:

1. Leggro left Cruz in his back. Grygera has to chose between Figo and Cruz.

2. Cesar is making the pass, Grygera decides to go for Cruz, leaving Figo unmarked. Leggro stands between Ibra and Cruz, a bit clueless.

3. The pass is given, Leggro comes back on Cruz but will be too late, Grygera wants to cover for Figo instead of going for Cruz at this moment.

4. Leggro is behind, Chiellini gives everything and will come back. Grygera doesn't know what to do.

5. Grygera decides to stop right there... Leggro and Chiellini are too late. Buffon can't do anything.

6. Grygera has stopped, Buffon is beaten, goal.

really nice post

i hadnt noticed that Grygera just stopped, why would you do that!!??

so it looks like a bit of an error from Legro and Grygera, but Gryg is more at fault.
I
'm 100% in favour of the offside trap, it worked really well against Inter and like you said in your previous post, its advantages really suit us. The main thing needed for it is communication and understanding, it looks like we are developing this and getting better each game. It is inevitable that errors will come in our play we are a new team which is gelling nicely.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

good analysis, but gygera should have gone for cruz after the pass was made rather than figo because if figo had received the ball, he would still have to run inwards and grygera would be in a position between him(figo) and the goal, and prevent figo from a one on one with gigi.

 

[Seven]

Give me your report for this game.

Why?

A report is pretty easily made IMO:

Game was full of tension and wasn't particularly good. Palladino was our only player with enough guts to try something before Camoranesi came on. Iaquinta and Camo managed to change the flow of the game after Buffon had saved us a couple of times.

 

[Trezegol17]

Hmm now i expect a 5match ban from FIGC for Giorgio, He did great but the elbow was not neccesary, we are thin in defenders and this can cost us more then we can take. After watching the game and saw the fighting spirit our guys had again the so called champs, i am proud too say that i support Juventus even more!

 

[Stu]

IMO Del Piero - Trezeguet partnership doesn´t work so well as it used to be.

It's hard for a strike partnership to work when they don't get service. The reason why Iaquinta-Trez looked better was because Camoranesi was on the field.

 

[Seven]

It's hard for a strike partnership to work when they don't get service. The reason why Iaquinta-Trez looked better was because Camoranesi was on the field and therefore able to create something.

That's definitely true, but Del Piero has become too static to partner Trezeguet in attack. When DP-Trez truly worked wonders, Del Piero ran a hell of a lot more than he does now.

 

[Red]

It's hard for a strike partnership to work when they don't get service. The reason why Iaquinta-Trez looked better was because Camoranesi was on the field.

 

[Elvin]

That look Chiello gave to that faggot was priceless

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

all my friends who watched that game with me, now all think chiellini is the shit and finally understand why i like him so much.

 

[Alfio_87]

As a defender such as Grygera u must make decisions at that moment he made the wrong one. Stopping is plain stupid.

 

[X Æ A-12]

That's definitely true, but Del Piero has become too static to partner Trezeguet in attack. When DP-Trez truly worked wonders, Del Piero ran a hell of a lot more than he does now.

its sad but its true.
grygera hasnt been good so far yet he hasn't played many matches given some time to adjust to serie A he will proly fit in well.

 

[Mark]

Hmm now i expect a 5match ban from FIGC for Giorgio, He did great but the elbow was not neccesary, we are thin in defenders and this can cost us more then we can take. After watching the game and saw the fighting spirit our guys had again the so called champs, i am proud too say that i support Juventus even more!

At la Domeinca Sportiva they all said it was a tough challenge but not to get booked.

 

[MikagaMi]

chiellini owned the 'golden boy'
oh yeah~~
i think we lacked a dc who can come out with confidence & win the ball...
some1 like cannavaro...

 

[MikagaMi]

did grygera play dc or right back back in ajax?
i don't think he is attacking well but he is doing a decent job in defending so far considering how long he has been in serie a

 

[Morra10]

I don't think so, look at the pic...Legro was way of his mark, every one else was staing put, so Grygera didn't massd up...

good call, I saw it live and it looked like grygera didn't step up like the rest of the defenders did. Also, grygera should of went to the ball instead he held back trying to cover cesar. He probably should of tried to step infront of cruz. And another thing, if legro is cheating towards the ball grygera has to yell at him and say something. Obviously grygera has to cover cesar down that wing, so why not tell legro to step back? Communication problems maybe?

 

[Reza]

Zanetti in the left easily missed 3 or 4 ball making opportunities. anyway in current formation I don't see a better replacement for him.

Except from cruz score, I didn't expect the defenders such a good harmony.
Guys see, Inter is in the best form these days but we could prov that they have a hard work to win the scudetto again. And might never happen again as long as juve plays in Serie A.