[Serie A] Juventus 1-1 Verona [October 25th, 2020] (4 Viewers)

[LiquidPLP]

Disappointing result but also the whole first half. Too slow and lethargic, plus inability to get out of Verona's press. Second half much better, obviously only after conceding first.

 

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[pavluska]

What the tweet suggests doesn't even make sense, because if the kick progresses than Morata is even further offside.

But I agree, the line looks weird. The line starts in the armpit of the Verona player, but for Morata it seems halfway down his arm. It's a good job we didn't sign Adama Traore as his shoulders would be offside in every attack.

I only saw one pic. Looked Morata's knee and Verona player's foot.

Clear fouls and pk's not given are what made it a horribly officiated game.

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It was a penalty imo. But could be argued I guess, as he managed to get a shot off while being fouled. Yanked his shirt about 30cm out from him and pulled him to the ground as he turned and shot.

Bernadeschi one was even worse. But Berna of course somehow managed to make it look unnatural and a dive in real time. Shocking VAR didn’t pick it up Though. 100% penalty for that one.

Missed first half. Any clips of those, anyone?

There was a clear PK on Ramsey in second.

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Sometime in the future offsides will be canceled imo

They used the.not have offsides long time ago. They played weird formations like 2-3-5. The present is the future.

 

[cimenk]

It was a penalty imo. But could be argued I guess, as he managed to get a shot off while being fouled. Yanked his shirt about 30cm out from him and pulled him to the ground as he turned and shot.

Bernadeschi one was even worse. But Berna of course somehow managed to make it look unnatural and a dive in real time. Shocking VAR didn’t pick it up Though. 100% penalty for that one.

Agree on Berna's part. He was running to make him ahead defender and CB for the cross then the Verona CB hug him from the back and made him fall so the ball can be taken by their GK.

I'm sure if Juve is the one defending, it will go to VAR or caused controversy when it didn't go to penalty.

Rules is rules when they apply it to offside even for it comes to interpretation of the frame and line.But they don't apply it to the foul. Hugging from the back which block the opponent's run is a foul

For the offside, Referee and Linesman can continue the play and when it came to a goal they reviewed VAR and can call it off. But how about if linesman call it an offside contentiously and stop the good chance of play. It will cancel the opportunity to score the goal even when its not offside. I watch there are 2 calls on Dybala and Ramsey being offside, but the replay didn't review it.

 

[Juliano13]

Seriously you could probably take 75 goals off him for marginal offsides.

And how many disallowed goals for Italy in 2002 would have been valid?

Somehow everyone assumes without VAR Morata's goals would have stood. There have been so many horrible offside decisions and wrongly disallowed goals it was ridiculous.

 

[Juliano13]

What about the obvious pull on Morata’s shirt none thinks that was a penalty?

The refferee reports should be made public so we know whether it wasn't reviewed or if it was how come it wasn't given. The one on Berna was even worse.

 

[Marc]

Seriously you could probably take 75 goals off him for marginal offsides.

Marginal offsides should be allowed, FFS. Like Morata's one.

 

[Post Ironic]

And how many disallowed goals for Italy in 2002 would have been valid?

Somehow everyone assumes without VAR Morata's goals would have stood. There have been so many horrible offside decisions and wrongly disallowed goals it was ridiculous.

Morata’s goal against Bayern in 2016 which likely would have seen us through to QFs is a good example. Dude was almost a metre onside.

I think VAR should only be able to overturn egregious decisions, but that’s just my opinion.

 

[JuveJay]

And how many disallowed goals for Italy in 2002 would have been valid?

Somehow everyone assumes without VAR Morata's goals would have stood. There have been so many horrible offside decisions and wrongly disallowed goals it was ridiculous.

They would have stood, the linesmen literally didn't flag?

You could go down a winners list of trophies over the years and change many of them with the current VAR rules but you can only play to what the current technology and rules allow.

 

[_GGB_]

Dud performance.. A real concern early in the season.. Worrying signs for Pirlo even if its early in his career ..

 

[Juliano13]

Marginal offsides should be allowed, FFS. Like Morata's one.

How marginal?

 

[Jethro]

wrog bread

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I just logged in to say, fuck Pharrell

 

[Bianconero81]

I just logged in to say, fuck Pharrell

That chicken scribble child doodle crap he pulled off with our jersey is absolutely repulsive.

Art is subjective, but there have to be standards.

What next? people shitting and jizzing on canvas and passing it off as art?

 

[Marc]

How marginal?

Let's say, for example, a couple of millimeters.

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wrog bread

Yeah, I love Dybala but Messi is in a league of his own.

 

[Orgut]

No way, that would completely change the dynamics of the game. You'd have bunches of players just standing around the goal and the ball being pumped into the penalty area like in Aussie Rules. It would be ridiculous, like being able to throw the ball forward in rugby. It becomes a different sport completely (i.e. rugby > American handegg).

The whole VAR thing really changed football and something needs to be changed.
Im not criticizing its decisions but more of the fluidity of the game.

Maybe the offside rule needs changing to feets only instead of a nose in offside (Iaquinta would have hated VAR)
As for penalties - Something that stuck the game less must be applied

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It was a penalty imo. But could be argued I guess, as he managed to get a shot off while being fouled. Yanked his shirt about 30cm out from him and pulled him to the ground as he turned and shot.

Bernadeschi one was even worse. But Berna of course somehow managed to make it look unnatural and a dive in real time. Shocking VAR didn’t pick it up Though. 100% penalty for that one.

The thing is that should the ref point to the spot - VAR wouldnt interfere.

 

[Juliano13]

Let's say, for example, a couple of millimeters.

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Yeah, I love Dybala but Messi is in a league of his own.

First of all, even though it was really close, Morata was offside by a few cm not mm. And second, if there is a 2 cm tolerance, it means that goals that VAR has to decide if it's 2 or 3cm offside.

 

[Marc]

First of all, even though it was really close, Morata was offside by a few cm not mm. And second, if there is a 2 cm tolerance, it means that goals that VAR has to decide if it's 2 or 3cm offside.

Okay, make it 1 cm at most.

 

[JUVEMOOD]

I don’t know that’s the case here, that they chose the wrong frame, it’s very hard to say, but choose the pass leaving a millisecond or two earlier and he’s onside. And that’s my problem with VAR deciding fractional offsides.

VAR should only be used for obvious mistakes on offside calls
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Sometimes if the player were running forward full speed,, those millisecond frames could be a decent distance.

On human interpretation, more Technologu can be added to VAR where computers decide the exact time frame when the ball left from the passing player or when he first kicked it.. as per the rule (as far as i know, its when the ball leaves not when it was touched for the pass)

This way it is implemented equally on all situation

Still I agree on VAR being only used for obvious mistakes..



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