[Serie A] Cagliari - Juventus [02/09/2007] (17 Viewers)
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Legrottaglie should not play,that's my opinion.
Salihamidzic instead of Zebina as RB,if he is not injured for a long period.
(LB)Molinaro---Chiellini---Andrade---Salihamidzic(RB)
These were just our starting games,and I think that we don't have a need to overreact now.We got 6points from 2 games,our major task is to collect the points for Champions League position and so far we are doing that.Scudetto is not our task,I hope that our defence will show the improvement.
Salihamidzic instead of Zebina as RB,if he is not injured for a long period.
(LB)Molinaro---Chiellini---Andrade---Salihamidzic(RB)
These were just our starting games,and I think that we don't have a need to overreact now.We got 6points from 2 games,our major task is to collect the points for Champions League position and so far we are doing that.Scudetto is not our task,I hope that our defence will show the improvement.
this is the best solution for defence at least until Grygera come back from injury.
Criscito,Legro & Boum should never start again unless we have no other options.
But I disagree with our task,I think our task right now is to win everygame & see what happens in 3 month & then we will know what our real task is.
Criscito,Legro & Boum should never start again unless we have no other options.
But I disagree with our task,I think our task right now is to win everygame & see what happens in 3 month & then we will know what our real task is.
I got u.
I dont have extreme expectations at all,I just want us to play everygame for winnig even the ones against Roma,Inter & Milan & in 2 or 3 months we will really know,where do we stand.
I know that we are nowhere near Inter or Milan or Roma & I also think that Fiorentina have a better squad than ours but we r JUVE & thats gotta count.
Anyway I think a World Class CB is a must in january even if we did well these next few months.
I dont have extreme expectations at all,I just want us to play everygame for winnig even the ones against Roma,Inter & Milan & in 2 or 3 months we will really know,where do we stand.
I know that we are nowhere near Inter or Milan or Roma & I also think that Fiorentina have a better squad than ours but we r JUVE & thats gotta count.
Anyway I think a World Class CB is a must in january even if we did well these next few months.
Zanetti was the best of our midfield before Camo came on. But that's not saying much. Just look at the midfield possession, as you referenced on Almiron. If Almiron wasn't getting ball control, possession, and service done, neither was Zanetti. He had the benefit of a few good stops and digs, but his passes were still off and not connecting well with his teammates.
Almiron's first half was awful, particularly the first 20 minutes. Every touch went to the opposition. But I thought he settled in better for an average game as the game went on. I'd be more concerned about his possession if the rest of the team was correctly connecting to give him the ball, and they weren't. Maybe you can fault him for positioning in that case. But Cagliari also pressed a lot and forced us to beat them with speed and/or long balls (some of which we clearly lacked).
As for Criscito, I only saw a couple of blown assignments -- neither of which resulted in a shot on goal. (Though you can credit poor Cagliari finishing for at least some of that.) Reading the match reports after, I was expecting to see a disaster -- but when watching last night, I didn't see quite that.
Now I have lamented Juve's lack of developing promising young talent as much as anyone. I have envy when I see what the likes of Spaletti have done with patience for players like Doni, Aquilani, etc.
But every match thus far that I have seen Criscito, and not just this one, he is out of position several times. He has also consistently surrendered the most dangerous chances of anyone on the defense.
So let's be serious. We're not the Juve youth team nor a farm club for Juve players like Siena or Empoli. People need to be held responsible for winning. Wishful thinking is not reality.
So people can go on glorifying the dream potential Criscito has. But thus far, I have seen none of it in his adult squad play yet.
Almiron's first half was awful, particularly the first 20 minutes. Every touch went to the opposition. But I thought he settled in better for an average game as the game went on. I'd be more concerned about his possession if the rest of the team was correctly connecting to give him the ball, and they weren't. Maybe you can fault him for positioning in that case. But Cagliari also pressed a lot and forced us to beat them with speed and/or long balls (some of which we clearly lacked).
As for Criscito, I only saw a couple of blown assignments -- neither of which resulted in a shot on goal. (Though you can credit poor Cagliari finishing for at least some of that.) Reading the match reports after, I was expecting to see a disaster -- but when watching last night, I didn't see quite that.
Now I have lamented Juve's lack of developing promising young talent as much as anyone. I have envy when I see what the likes of Spaletti have done with patience for players like Doni, Aquilani, etc.
But every match thus far that I have seen Criscito, and not just this one, he is out of position several times. He has also consistently surrendered the most dangerous chances of anyone on the defense.
So let's be serious. We're not the Juve youth team nor a farm club for Juve players like Siena or Empoli. People need to be held responsible for winning. Wishful thinking is not reality.
So people can go on glorifying the dream potential Criscito has. But thus far, I have seen none of it in his adult squad play yet.
That's not correct. In 1999/2000 season, the legendary Collina gave our lovely Torino two penalties. They were scored by the same player, Ferrante, and Juve won 3-2 too. One of the three gaols was scored by Del Piero 
http://www2.raisport.rai.it/mcalcio/1999_2000/a/p0234.html
Nice coincidence, eh?
http://www2.raisport.rai.it/mcalcio/1999_2000/a/p0234.html
Nice coincidence, eh?
He has played 2 games in Serie A, give the lad a chance. He is also coming into the side when we are weak and without someone who can really guide him (Andrade will eventually but he is also adjusting) and is playing in a defence that isn't getting the help it should from the midfield.
If he doesn't improve over the next month I will be more critical of them but at the moment I will stick by him, as long as he seems to be learning from his mistakes.
If he doesn't improve over the next month I will be more critical of them but at the moment I will stick by him, as long as he seems to be learning from his mistakes.
It is not about a couple of displays.
Defenders are not like forwards,they doesnt need time to see their abilities.
I said before that Criscito has Heart & this is a rare quality But he needs a lot of work & I wanted him to start every match to gain experience.
But after the last match when u see a defender losing every ball in the air & feeling lost & losing his mark at least 4 times in 45 min, which obligated his coach to change him in half time is not a good sign.
btw I am not writing him off,I am just sayin he still needs a lot of work to be a good defender & starting him in a team like Juve is just Stupid & I know Ranieri realized this & I am pretty sure he wont start him in Important matches,maybe against week teams & in the Coppa he should find his chance.
Defenders are not like forwards,they doesnt need time to see their abilities.
I said before that Criscito has Heart & this is a rare quality But he needs a lot of work & I wanted him to start every match to gain experience.
But after the last match when u see a defender losing every ball in the air & feeling lost & losing his mark at least 4 times in 45 min, which obligated his coach to change him in half time is not a good sign.
btw I am not writing him off,I am just sayin he still needs a lot of work to be a good defender & starting him in a team like Juve is just Stupid & I know Ranieri realized this & I am pretty sure he wont start him in Important matches,maybe against week teams & in the Coppa he should find his chance.
I agree...and what I agree with most from your match analysis was the PK given because of Legro wasnt a penalty at all. Legro still sucks, however
Did anyone see when Samuel and Cordoba slammed the Empoli player in the box in the 15th minute of their game, and the ref waved off penalty appeals ?? The player was down for a good 2 minutes afterwards
Talk about inconsistencies....
Did anyone see when Samuel and Cordoba slammed the Empoli player in the box in the 15th minute of their game, and the ref waved off penalty appeals ?? The player was down for a good 2 minutes afterwards
Talk about inconsistencies....