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MikeM

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I think it would make sence if your team is already completed and all that is missing is a world-class Fullback then the 25 million would make sence.

But if you got an average team (in almost every position) then spending 25 mil on a full-back would be a mad move.
Actually IMO building up your team before you acquire 25M forwards is a smart move. Fullbacks are not dependent on the team dynamics as much as forwards. If you are a shit team and buy a striker who needs service, that striker will fail. If you buy a fullback, he is less likely to fail because fullbacks deal with 1 on 1 scenarios much more frequently. They don't need service. They need to defend other wingers, run their ass off and put in crosses, all things which are not impacted by the team as much.
 

Bjerknes

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Coentrao 25M. And if you think 25M is too much for a LB then you're not getting the point. Fullbacks are just as important as any other position and we haven't been treating it as such.
That's simply not true, dude. Lots of teams do well with mediocre fullbacks, Milan is one of them. If you're good through the middle then you stand a chance of getting results.
 

MikeM

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How many fullbacks are 25M buys?

If you can answer that, then you should be able to understand who's more important.
There are not many 25M forwards I would rather have than Coentrao or Cissokho. Even Rossi cost 30M. We got Diego for 25M and he "flopped" because he had no support. The 25M range for forwards nowadays does not buy you an Sanchez, Aguero, Tevez, etc. It buys you strikers that are still somewhat dependent on the team.

Matri is what, 19-20M basically? And if he doesn't see the ball, he is worth 0M.
 

Zacheryah

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There are not many 25M forwards I would rather have than Coentrao or Cissokho. Even Rossi cost 30M. We got Diego for 25M and he "flopped" because he had no support. The 25M range for forwards nowadays does not buy you an Sanchez, Aguero, Tevez, etc. It buys you strikers that are still somewhat dependent on the team.

Matri is what, 19-20M basically? And if he doesn't see the ball, he is worth 0M.
thats exactly why we are trying to fix the backline with great deals, but provide the minimumquality a serie a top3 team needs
so we can put more money in signing that diffrencemaker up front

and matri is a player, that needs just 1 moment to score when he gets the ball in the box, the best strikers often dont contribute that much to the team
 

MikeM

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Besides, it's a well known fact that defenders usually cost less than midfielders and attackers.
Yes, it's a clear inefficiency in the market. For example, the #1 rule Lyon lives by is never to spend on a center-forward. They are the most overvalued position in soccer. Goalies are the most undervalued.
 

Bjerknes

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It's an inefficiency of the market that the match-winning players are more expensive than fullbacks? Really? What kind of crap is this?

No, the market is efficient because the better players go for higher prices. How many fullbacks in history have been the "best players in the world" at the time? They play their positions for a reason...
 

javi_berti

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lyon spent 13 million on gomis alone. if you count lisandro lopez it climbs to a total of 34 million.

but you're kinda right on the market inefficiency part. supply/demand doesn't really apply here. few wordclass fullbacks are on average cheaper as more worldclass forwards or midfielders. supports sheiks statement though. the market values attacking players more, and it is like this for as long as there have been transfer fees in football.
 

MikeM

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It's an inefficiency of the market that the match-winning players are more expensive than fullbacks? Really? What kind of crap is this?

No, the market is efficient because the better players go for higher prices. How many fullbacks in history have been the "best players in the world" at the time? They play their positions for a reason...
Who is a match-winning 25M forward? FFS, Andy Carroll got like 40M. And better players don't go for higher prices. Is Rossi 5M better than Coentrao? Is he even better at all? No.
 
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