Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (266 Viewers)

[GiocataGrande]

This JuveMkd clown definitely would. I love these Putin apologists pretending people, including everyone posting here, haven’t been shitting on the US for years over all their meddling in the Middle East and Central America post-WWII. I’ve made multiple big posts about the shit America did in the 50s -70s overthrowing fledgling democracies to install favourable authoritarian regimes and the havoc it has wreaked in those regions since.

But these twits can’t comprehend that right now the focus is rightly upon condemning and dealing with what Russia is doing under Putin. An authoritarian regime invading a sovereign democratic neighbour in 2022. Instead we get pointless drivel about how the US did this or that, as though that’s the important thing to focus on right now, or nonsense blaming rhe US-NATO for causing this war by supporting Ukraine being a free democratic nation lol

Like this you mean ?

I have seen a surprisingly large amount of these types of contrarian arguments being made the last days, but I just cant seem to buy it :

I really fail to see how EU/Nato/US could have prevented this situation when Putin obviously has been planning this war for a long time and was dead set on it.

It's a real shame it wasn't prevented tho: such a meaningless, mad and perverse war based on nothing but lies and propaganda

 

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[Elvin]

I don't understand. With Russia being suffocated by all these sanctions, surely Putin had envisaged this scenario for years? Does he have a fallback plan that we're unaware of? I can't imagine that he didn't see this coming

The most logical explanation is that he thought the war would take 2 says max and the West would be late to do anything and just accept new realities that emerged.

 

[U Picciriddu]

I don't understand. With Russia being suffocated by all these sanctions, surely Putin had envisaged this scenario for years? Does he have a fallback plan that we're unaware of? I can't imagine that he didn't see this coming

What will happen with normal people their money in Russia? Does anyone know?

 

[s4tch]

this is exactly just as effective as szczesny's insta post, still, i lol'd. a minor hungarian joke party (called two tailed dog party, their logo is brilliant, see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Two_Tailed_Dog_Party ) projected the same "go fuck yourselves" message that the snake island ukranians told the russian battle ship:

 

[GiocataGrande]

I don't understand. With Russia being suffocated by all these sanctions, surely Putin had envisaged this scenario for years? Does he have a fallback plan that we're unaware of? I can't imagine that he didn't see this coming

For sure he was prepared, but I think the sanctions that are being made now is more serious than expected.

When it comes to fallback plan; Putin has a huge war chest and sanctions wont do shit about that: he can fund war for a long time without problems.

Sanctions will be more noticeable in society and among normal peoples lives.

Potential Fallback plan that I would expect is a new trade union with China but It remains to be seen any traces of it

 

[radekas]

 

[Post Ironic]

For sure he was prepared, but I think the sanctions that are being made now is more serious than expected.

When it comes to fallback plan; Putin has a huge war chest and sanctions wont do shit about that: he can fund war for a long time without problems.

Sanctions will be more noticeable in society and among normal peoples lives.

Potential Fallback plan that I would expect is a new trade union with China but It remains to be seen any traces of it

I posted about it above, but his reserves are mostly not held in Russia. The ban on Russian Central Bank Transactions by the EU and assuming the US follows would freeze hundreds of billions of the Russian reserves.

a good read: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/02/how-russian-sanctions-work/622940/

 

[campionesidd]

My point is you are bunch of hypocrites just spewing out bullshit when it suits you.

Everyone here condemns the US’s actions in Afghanistan and Iraq. Do you condemn Daddy Putin’s actions in Ukraine?

Also, a big difference between Iraq (a bloodthirsty dictator who gassed his own people), Afghanistan (ruled by the Taliban) and Ukraine, which is a democratic country.

 

[GiocataGrande]

What will happen with normal people their money in Russia? Does anyone know?

Theyre fucked: inflation, an overall loss of value or a lack of availability of funds is imminent.

Unless they have invested in actual physical values, like gold bars for example, Their values and savings will certainly be on a negative spiral and losing more and more value every day.

 

[campionesidd]

Theyre fucked: inflation, an overall loss of value and a lack of availability of funds is imminent.

Unless they have invested in actual physical values, like gold bars for example, Their values and savings will certainly be on a negative spiral and losing more and more value every day.

Black Sails

 

[GiocataGrande]

I posted about it above, but his reserves are mostly not held in Russia. The ban on Russian Central Bank Transactions by the EU and assuming the US follows would freeze hundreds of billions of the Russian reserves.

a good read: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/02/how-russian-sanctions-work/622940/

Good article, but this would not prevent Putin from waging a war in Ukraine. It will lead a crushing blow to Russias economy tho, so it's a good start.

 

[j0ker]

America/NATO invaded Iran? Please tell me when this occurred? Lol

Dude lives in an alternative world.

 

[Fab Fragment]

Yup. He's drowning in L's.

But that's the scary thing about the nuclear threat. Surely he expected some of these outcomes, so I still don't see what the endgame is.

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Please Putin, save us from ourselves and blow us all up!

No, I want to see us win the UCL 3 times in a row.

 

[Fr3sh]

No, I want to see us win the UCL 3 times in a row.

4. I want 4 consecutive ones. We've been traumatized enough for too long.

 

[Vlad]

My point is you are bunch of hypocrites just spewing out bullshit when it suits you.

Democratic country being invaded, while madman in power is threatening with nuclear arsenal that could destroy entire world? Yeah, it suits me perfectly ffs. How is that even comparable to US interventions and why do you have this obsession to relate everything with NATO and/or US?

 

[Elvin]

Theyre fucked: inflation, an overall loss of value or a lack of availability of funds is imminent.

Unless they have invested in actual physical values, like gold bars for example, Their values and savings will certainly be on a negative spiral and losing more and more value every day.

Honestly ending Putin's regime is not enough IMO, this action needs to continue until Russian Federation is dissolved into all its republics, cause sooner or later another Putin will emerge from that shithole. It needs to be dissolved like the Soviets. New flag, new anthem and shit. And fuckin denuclearized.

 

[GarfielD]

Are those TOS-1 ?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

 

[BayernFan]

Honestly ending Putin's regime is not enough IMO, this action needs to continue until Russian Federation is dissolved into all its republics, cause sooner or later another Putin will emerge from that shithole. It needs to be dissolved like the Soviets. New flag, new anthem and shit. And fuckin denuclearized.

That's what the Allies thought of doing with Germany after WW2, but they chose a different way. I'm not sure it's the right solution this time around as well.

I get your point and also see how it could change Russia for the better, but not sure it will create more peace if the West were to split Russia in seperate states. Instead I think it would just cause more bitterness, hate and mistrust to the West.

The Allies learned their lessons from WW1 and knew if they treated Germany the same this time around, they wouldn't create a better world for the future.

Imo it would be better to have Putin removed from power/executed and there after trying to change Russia to be a more democratic country. There's still a long way to go for that to happen, but one can hope it will be in the next 20-30 years.

 

[Elvin]

That's what the Allies thought of doing with Germany after WW2, but they chose a different way. I'm not sure it's the right solution this time around as well.

I get your point and also see how it could change Russia for the better, but not sure it will create more peace if the West were to split Russia in seperate states. Instead I think it would just cause more bitterness, hate and mistrust to the West.

The Allies learned their lessons from WW1 and knew if they treated Germany the same this time around, they wouldn't create a better world for the future.

Imo it would be better to have Putin removed from power/executed and there after trying to change Russia to be a more democratic country. There's still a long way to go for that to happen, but one can hope it will be in the next 20-30 years.

No, it is completely different - Germany is populated by Germans, while Russia consists of hundred different nations/ethnicities. No one wants to restore old USSR borders except Russians, I imagine the same will apply to the newly independent Turkic and Caucasian nations as a result of RF's demise.