Roberto Pereyra (39 Viewers)

[Vlad]

Marotta did some good business. But 15M is not the standard price for an OK player nowadays. No way. Pereyra and Morata are very overpriced, because Marotta is paying for what they might cost in 1 or 2 years from now. It's not their current price.

That's how it works. Rarely any player is sold at his exact market value, unless the selling club is put in a tight spot (be it finances, last year of contract, etc...) and is forced to. Juve deemed him worthy of an investment, as he's young, versatile, with good potential, and decided to pay few mills over the top. I'd rather that we take gamble of these young guys, than bring old, somewhat proven players, but with only a few years of decent football ahead of them.

 

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[Hydde]

We need to evade the Quaglierella/Matri kind of deals from now on. Not because of quags exactly... but the kind of 27-28 years old, average ad already peaked striker... is a dead end deal. They will be worth the first year and the fade maybe...at high wages and with long contracts just to warm the bench.

We need to evade this deals at all costs unless is a failproof top player like Tevez was.

 

[Post Ironic]

That's how it works. Rarely any player is sold at his exact market value, unless the selling club is put in a tight spot (be it finances, last year of contract, etc...) and is forced to. Juve deemed him worthy of an investment, as he's young, versatile, with good potential, and decided to pay few mills over the top. I'd rather that we take gamble of these young guys, than bring old, somewhat proven players, but with only a few years of decent football ahead of them.

Yep. Young players with good potential are never sold at their current value. That's not how the transfer market works. Was James Rodriguez worth 45m when Monaco bought him? Certainly not. He didn't even live up to that fee while playing for them this past year. However, his WC was incredible and look at what Madrid has paid for him now. Monaco took a risk on a young player with mega-potential, and was rewarded. The only time young players go for cheap is when you get the luck of a contract running out, or a player forcing his way out for playing time.

26 year olds and above. They go for their true market value, because no one sees them as having potential to improve much.

 

[Vlad]

We need to evade the Quaglierella/Matri kind of deals from now on. Not because of quags exactly... but the kind of 27-28 years old, average ad already peaked striker... is a dead end deal. They will be worth the first year and the fade maybe...at high wages and with long contracts just to warm the bench.

We need to evade this deals at all costs unless is a failproof top player like Tevez was.

Yeah, they also have a terrible resale value. If Pereyra flops here, we still might get decent sum in return and cut our losses. With older guys, as we have seen, it is impossible to find a decent buyer.

 

[Post Ironic]

We need to evade the Quaglierella/Matri kind of deals from now on. Not because of quags exactly... but the kind of 27-28 years old, average ad already peaked striker... is a dead end deal. They will be worth the first year and the fade maybe...at high wages and with long contracts just to warm the bench.

We need to evade this deals at all costs unless is a failproof top player like Tevez was.

Unless the 27 year old is a superstar, or is for an amazing deal due to contract or some other such reason... buying average players in that age bracket is really poor transfer strategy imo, as their value has nowhere to go but down. 2-3 years later and they are 30 and still average, or even slightly worse and no one wants to pay more than 5-6m for them.

 

[JuveJay]

We shouldn't go near players like Matri and Quagliarella now, the age of those players is just wrong, our squad should be good enough to add younger player as we seem to be.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

it's obvious we dont have money, but all these deals do is handicap us next summer when we might have some to play with but instead have to use to redeem these overpriced bench players

 

[Suns]

Look beyond the Italian market, there are some great players in France, Holland and Germany going for great prices with a huge amount of individual skill. Clearly Germany has some great players coming up and not all of them can go to Bayern.

But, I have heard a lot of surprising things about Pereyra. Di Natale even said he'll be as good as Sanchez which is kinda weird since Peryeyra didn't exactly have the eyes of the world on him like Sanchez did.

 

[Hydde]

Unless the 27 year old is a superstar, or is for an amazing deal due to contract or some other such reason... buying average players in that age bracket is really poor transfer strategy imo, as their value has nowhere to go but down. 2-3 years later and they are 30 and still average, or even slightly worse and no one wants to pay more than 5-6m for them.

Is like playing a lottery with bad odds. Our chance for them to shine is very low, specially if they came from another average serie A team. Quags was going to be an awesome deal but he injured and then all went down. Matri started awesome too... but faded with Conte hardcore. Vucinic was an okish deal but well we were desperate and he was the only cheapo available.

 

[GIGIthebest]

Just wondering, lets say he does very good, where will he play next season and how will we fit him in?

 

[Hydde]

it's obvious we dont have money, but all these deals do is handicap us next summer when we might have some to play with but instead have to use to redeem these overpriced bench players

I think that the board is counting on us to actually perform in the CL this season...as TBH, we underperformed WAY too much in our last run thanks to everything that went wrong. At least taking in consideration our roster.

I dont think they are doing this buys just for the sake of it and burning in advance every possible profit for next season. I think they are tryng to cover the huge holes we have on the bench...to buy a really nice player or players next season without comrpomising our depth.

Yes, i know we have been trying to work on our depth in the last seasons.... but we made a half asset effort and got it all wrong with peluso and isla. Now it "seems" to be going in the right direction.

 

[alaska]

Its easy really.

Immobile played for Torino, not Juve. If we do a blind auction (massive risk), on equal bid he'd go to torino.
Immobile hates Tevez
Tevez thinks Immobile is a fucking cunt.
Immobile allready doesnt want to come to juventus for this reason alone

Torino tells immobile they agree his big transfer to Dortmund. Juventus can eighter accept the deal, or purchase his half. But Torino doesnt want to sell to us and the player doesnt want to come here.

So what we basically have, is that Torino negotiated a very bad price with Dortmund, and we were not in a position to do much about it. Thats why the price is low



Pereyra ? Very simple. 1 buyer, 1 seller who prefers to keep him.

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Lets forget he's actually better then most defenders, and has made less mistakes then Chiellini the past year

Wait, why do tevez and immobile hate each other?

Bad tackle?

 

[Zacheryah]

Wait, why do tevez and immobile hate each other?

Bad tackle?

that started it

 

[alaska]

that started it

Right, but many hard tackles happen in a match.

What evidence is there they held a grudge? Never heard of a feud between them tbh

 

[Zacheryah]

Right, but many hard tackles happen in a match.

What evidence is there they held a grudge? Never heard of a feud between them tbh

Their twitter, and that Immobile didnt want to come here and tevez was not fond of him after that


It was more then just a hard tackle, tevez was quite upset about it

 

[donpiero]

Right, but many hard tackles happen in a match.

What evidence is there they held a grudge? Never heard of a feud between them tbh

Dude let it be. Basically that's just some dumbass reason he's pulling out of his retarded ass to make his argument more credible.

 

[AlexOB]

Actually is known that Tevez and Immobile dislike themselves after that tackle... Immobile some months ago talked about that in an interview, before the derby in February (1-0 Tevez).

 

[donpiero]

Actually is known that Tevez and Immobile dislike themselves after that tackle... Immobile some months ago talked about that in an interview, before the derby in February (1-0 Tevez).

I know that. but that's no reason for a player not wanting to go to a club. What? just for a tackle they're gonna be thirsty for each other's blood for the rest of their lives?!
Besides there never was a rumor that it was the reason for Immobile not coming back to Juve (unlike say the recent Mancini-Teves rumor), that's just pure speculation.

 

[Vlad]

Right, but many hard tackles happen in a match.

What evidence is there they held a grudge? Never heard of a feud between them tbh

That was extremely harsh tackle, and for most players around it could have been very dangerous, but Tevez is incredibly resilient, therefore couple of stitches were enough. I don't believe these things are forgotten that easily, especially since it looked very much like deliberate move. But even if we disregard this incident, Immobile hinted many times before that his future lies somewhere else and bringing him here wasn't feasible.

 

[Xperd]

I know that. but that's no reason for a player not wanting to go to a club. What? just for a tackle they're gonna be thirsty for each other's blood for the rest of their lives?!
Besides there never was a rumor that it was the reason for Immobile not coming back to Juve (unlike say the recent Mancini-Teves rumor), that's just pure speculation.

And considering Tevez even praised Immobile for his goal scoring exploits last season in an interview.I'll try to find the link,remember it very well.
But hey lets believe the experd and experd reasoning ofcourse.After Juve board member,finance and tactics experd,he's even become players' PR too.Mr.All in one