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England-related but nowhere else to put it. The article is about how unpopular the 1980 shirts were made by Admiral, as they moved away from plain white and red home/away shirts.
Fans loved them, and even today the home shirt is probably the most popular retro shirt, along with the '66 red one.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50055675
All those 70s and 80s kits look class now, in my opinion.
Fair point, but I'd also say it is a mystery why up until the 90s there were mostly Union Jack flags at England games. In 1966 if you look they were all Union Jacks.
Now if you watch an England game it is mostly all St. George's flags. I would say Euro '96 was the turning point and hosting a home tournament, the fans claimed the flag back from far right nationalists. Particularly so as Scotland were drawn in England's group.
Fans loved them, and even today the home shirt is probably the most popular retro shirt, along with the '66 red one.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50055675
All those 70s and 80s kits look class now, in my opinion.
Fair point, but I'd also say it is a mystery why up until the 90s there were mostly Union Jack flags at England games. In 1966 if you look they were all Union Jacks.
Now if you watch an England game it is mostly all St. George's flags. I would say Euro '96 was the turning point and hosting a home tournament, the fans claimed the flag back from far right nationalists. Particularly so as Scotland were drawn in England's group.
Gazza He also missed out a couple of cult classics involving Fergie:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2003/sep/01/newsstory.sport3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Buffet
Lol Gazza is a legend for pointing out the hypocrisy. On top of that the rampant nepotism he ran the club with, with cushy jobs and backroom deals for friends and family in transfers. But yeah his biggiest mistake is what he did to Beckham, a well behaved home made superstar, and you treat him like shit with violent outburst.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52740861
Just me or does Aurier seem like the dumbest and most blissfully ignorant footballer out there? Which is some title in itself.
I just don't think he cares whatsoever.
Just me or does Aurier seem like the dumbest and most blissfully ignorant footballer out there? Which is some title in itself.
I just don't think he cares whatsoever.
Is it? Some of us can continue to work from home, pay rent, have food and even non essentials delivered basically ride out the no contact with others unaffected.
Other folks only chance to pay rent/ feed kids this month is rely on the government for help
Other folks only chance to pay rent/ feed kids this month is rely on the government for help
Yeah. Although I tend to give these footballers the benefit of the doubt when I read these stories, because so often they don't seem to be completely true, or at least they get away with it.
Hudson-Odoi has the potential to be a starting winger for one of the best England generations in a long time, so if he goes down for that he is definitely one of the dumbest fuckers around.
I tell you another huge idiot / waste of talent from England - Ravel Morrison. I think anyone who worked with him as a young player considered him the absolutely standout at his age in the country, in a Man Utd youth team that had Pogba. But his attitude was terrible.
Hudson-Odoi has the potential to be a starting winger for one of the best England generations in a long time, so if he goes down for that he is definitely one of the dumbest fuckers around.
I tell you another huge idiot / waste of talent from England - Ravel Morrison. I think anyone who worked with him as a young player considered him the absolutely standout at his age in the country, in a Man Utd youth team that had Pogba. But his attitude was terrible.
What is going on with Newcastle? Have they been bought yet?
Personally, I think having yet another rich team in the Premier League is the worst thing for the league. EPL already has issues with keeping all of their stars happy. There is a reason why guys like Pogba, Kane and Aubameyang are unhappy and want out. Stars are not interested in competing for 3-6th and risk missing out on the Champions League during their peak. This will present an opportunity for teams like Juventus, Inter and even a historically prestigious team like Milan if they get their finances in order to sign some superstars.
Personally, I think having yet another rich team in the Premier League is the worst thing for the league. EPL already has issues with keeping all of their stars happy. There is a reason why guys like Pogba, Kane and Aubameyang are unhappy and want out. Stars are not interested in competing for 3-6th and risk missing out on the Champions League during their peak. This will present an opportunity for teams like Juventus, Inter and even a historically prestigious team like Milan if they get their finances in order to sign some superstars.
You're right, they went from trying to bring in winners to signing overrated British bums which resulted in their worst season in 30 years and their longest run without a clean sheet in 40 something.
Btw, that Matić has been their best player since OGS was forced to put him in the team instead of mighty McTominay. They were fighting relegation without him in front of defense. 17.6% clean sheet rate in the PL without Matić this season, 41.6% with him. Over twice as likely to keep a clean sheet when Matić plays. Another overhyped british 'talent': win percentage this season with Rashford - 45% Without Rashford it's 66%. He has the same goalscoring record as Welbeck had at his age yet he's talked about as CR 2.0. Bench depth at best in a serious team.
Only way Maguire was an improvement is he improved Leicester by leaving. Champs, then 9th twice with Maguire, as soon as he fucks off they're in CL again. Comes to United and they have their worst pts total in 30 years, horrible run without clean sheet. Smalling-Jones when healthy were miles better than him. Man has 0 trophies to his name, 4 relegations in his career and he's the most expensive CB ever. Gtfoh. Souness, Gerrard and Carragher couldn't have come up with something like that.
Wan-Bissaka is just bang average. He's an amazing tackler and that's about it. Gets lost positionally all the time, can't dribble, cross or pass. Decent depth signing for 10-ish m - bat-shit crazy for 50.
I didn't mention Bruno because he doesn't fit the mould you're describing. He's a successful, proven winning player, and not British.
Just Sancho isn't going to bridge the gap with Liverpool and City. That's the standard of Man Utd. Not fighting for 'top 6'.
Fact is if anyone else other than a former club favorite was in charge and selling the bullshit he's selling there would be protests in front of OT. Mourinho was persona non grata for saying 2nd place behind City was a success with that team. Look at them now. Solskjaer has brainwashed them and lowered the standards to a minimum.
Just imagine us in 2010 under Ferrara, spending world record fees on average Italian dross and fans lapping it up. That's the path United are on with this policy. And they're not in a financial gutter we were in. They have the 3rd highest turnover in the world. They have the power and pull to have the best manager on their bench and 20 of the best players in the world in their team in two years tops.
Btw, that Matić has been their best player since OGS was forced to put him in the team instead of mighty McTominay. They were fighting relegation without him in front of defense. 17.6% clean sheet rate in the PL without Matić this season, 41.6% with him. Over twice as likely to keep a clean sheet when Matić plays. Another overhyped british 'talent': win percentage this season with Rashford - 45% Without Rashford it's 66%. He has the same goalscoring record as Welbeck had at his age yet he's talked about as CR 2.0. Bench depth at best in a serious team.
Just on those signings, united did overpay for maguire, but he's definitely an improvement. He's better on the ball and in the air than the others and he is one of the best in the league. James was signed to be a squad/development player, his pace has been useful. Wan Bissaka defensively has been great, he does need to improve going forward tho. I notice you didn't mention bruno, maybe because you know he's a great signing 
Wan-Bissaka is just bang average. He's an amazing tackler and that's about it. Gets lost positionally all the time, can't dribble, cross or pass. Decent depth signing for 10-ish m - bat-shit crazy for 50.
I didn't mention Bruno because he doesn't fit the mould you're describing. He's a successful, proven winning player, and not British.
Just Sancho isn't going to bridge the gap with Liverpool and City. That's the standard of Man Utd. Not fighting for 'top 6'.
Fact is if anyone else other than a former club favorite was in charge and selling the bullshit he's selling there would be protests in front of OT. Mourinho was persona non grata for saying 2nd place behind City was a success with that team. Look at them now. Solskjaer has brainwashed them and lowered the standards to a minimum.
Just imagine us in 2010 under Ferrara, spending world record fees on average Italian dross and fans lapping it up. That's the path United are on with this policy. And they're not in a financial gutter we were in. They have the 3rd highest turnover in the world. They have the power and pull to have the best manager on their bench and 20 of the best players in the world in their team in two years tops.
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