Pharmaceutical Mafia (2 Viewers)

[giovanotti]

21st Century.
The Century of progress ,money and ,most recent, people alienation.
We're living our short lives in a very special fast way that doesn't allow us to think a lot and to fight against something especially if that something is not perceptible.
After the job we're going home and do usual stuff.But in the same time some other people are fighting for their lives in the hospitals asking themselves are they going to see another day or month.
They are suffering from cancers, hepatitis C or final stages of HIV etc.
The medicaments they use are made to extend their lives and make them perfect long term customers.

Second point - undeveloped countries are the most affected by some diseases which is explicable by their poor medical system. But why some lethal viruses such are the Ebola virus or HIV appeared in Africa, in the places so rich by the recourses and diamonds?

HIV exist for almost 30 years and they didn't find the cure.Why,do we have a demographic explosion that is needed to be resolved?

For the decades it's been talked about the universal immunosuppressive (just one time basis usage) drugs that will avoid the rejection of the transplated organs ,but that never happens.Why,it is much more profitable to have a long time drug customers?

Than we 're coming to the swine flu.What is this ,a virus mutation to an extant that the vaccine was offered just a few months after the epidemic started.Was that prepared even before the virus epidemic exploded in Mexico?

Who stand behind it?Who is earning tons of money on others misery?
If this is all true and if the diseases are reasonably spreaded than pharmaceutical mafia is the the devil over devils.

What do you think about this issue?

 

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[Bjerknes]

Well, Baxter Pharma was actually caught shipping off vaccines contaminated with Avian Flu in Eastern Europe. No punishment was dished out to them. Was it an accident? Doubt it. Could there be other such "accidents?" Possibly.

 

[swag]

There's no money in cures. You want to turn any illness into a chronic condition that will give you a lifetime subscription customer.

 

[Bjerknes]

Oh, and yeah. I love the theories about my dad creating AIDS in his lab back in the day. He always told me that there's no better way to cleanse the Earth than to create a deadly virus. :jvefan:

 

[GordoDeCentral]

nuclear holocaust sounds sexier

 

[Bjerknes]

Yeah, but it's not as fun because you don't get much time to sit back and enjoy your own work.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Swine flu is overrated. I don't even think it exists. It's just a virus that mutates every yea. Every year so many people die because of such thing but now they had to raise the issue due to Economic crisis and how else are they going to earn money than by selling AH1N1 vaccines, that consist of thimerosal and squalene, which kills your brain cells and that actually lowers your IQ by 10 and higher your chances of getting asthma or diabetes.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Swine flu is overrated. I don't even think it exists. It's just a virus that mutates every yea. Every year so many people die because of such thing but now they had to raise the issue due to Economic crisis and how else are they going to earn money than by selling AH1N1 vaccines, that consist of thimerosal and squalene, which kills your brain cells and that actually lowers your IQ by 10 and higher your chances of getting asthma or diabetes.

kinda like reading juventuz then

 

[Dostoevsky]

Imagine this, some people would get their IQ on a zero.

 

[giovanotti]

There's no money in cures. You want to turn any illness into a chronic condition that will give you a lifetime subscription customer.

Doent't it seem possible?
I mean this could easily be the case.

 

[Stephan]

Imagine this, some people would get their IQ on a zero.

what about minus ten for example?

 

[IrishZebra]

Do you guys have any idea what it costs to produce a retail Drug? and you aren't even allowed to keep it, you only get 10 years to reclaim your R+D money in expenses.

Africans have AIDS because they are idiots and do not use contraception.


You're suggestion that companies are creating viri in order to make profits, this isn't V for vendetta.

 

[giovanotti]

nuclear holocaust sounds sexier

To rough.And of course no money in it.The other way is more subtle.

Swine flu is overrated. I don't even think it exists. It's just a virus that mutates every yea. Every year so many people die because of such thing but now they had to raise the issue due to Economic crisis and how else are they going to earn money than by selling AH1N1 vaccines, that consist of thimerosal and squalene, which kills your brain cells and that actually lowers your IQ by 10 and higher your chances of getting asthma or diabetes.

Not only vaccines they're depending on Oseltamivir sales.

Do you guys have any idea what it costs to produce a retail Drug? and you aren't even allowed to keep it, you only get 10 years to reclaim your R+D money in expenses.

Africans have AIDS because they are idiots and do not use contraception.


You're suggestion that companies are creating viri in order to make profits, this isn't V for vendetta.

Believe me they would not produce the drugs if they are making debts and low profit.We all know that the military and drug industry are the most profitable.

As for the second point Africans are no idiots,they don't even know for Coca-cola why would they know more.Many don't have TV ,internet is a high tech.
By the way in Europe so many people are using contraception but in 30-40% of Hepatitis C cases the way of contamination remains unknown.

 

[Stephan]

It just got to be Moggi.

 

[IrishZebra]

Believe me they would not produce the drugs if they are making debts and low profit.We all know that the military and drug industry are the most profitable.

As for the second point Africans are no idiots,they don't even know for Coca-cola why would they know more.Many don't have TV ,internet is a high tech.
By the way in Europe so many people are using contraception but in 30-40% of Hepatitis C cases the way of contamination remains unknown.

I never siad it wasn't profitable but the cost in developing a major drug is in the hundreds of millions if not billions, the companys are in debt when they release the drug and the have 10 years to remake the money before other companys can copy thier drugs with 'generic' drugs.

Hep C is spread by blood to blood contact, it's contested that it even is sexual activity.

If you have unprotected sex with many partners you deserve an STI for being a moron. If people in Sub-Saharan Africa listen to the Pope about contraception and sleep unprotected with many partners they are Stupid.

Don't go blaming companies for the idiocy of consumers.

 

[giovanotti]

I never siad it wasn't profitable but the cost in developing a major drug is in the hundreds of millions if not billions, the companys are in debt when they release the drug and the have 10 years to remake the money before other companys can copy thier drugs with 'generic' drugs.

Hep C is spread by blood to blood contact, it's contested that it even is sexual activity.

If you have unprotected sex with many partners you deserve an STI for being a moron. If people in Sub-Saharan Africa listen to the Pope about contraception and sleep unprotected with many partners they are Stupid.

Don't go blaming companies for the idiocy of consumers.

But they're receiving tons of money from other drugs during the experimental period for a certain drug.I'm not afraid for them.
Yes at least 10 years to make all the necessary experiments (first rats than people and blind probes on them,control groups....).But here we're talking about the profits they make.

By the way HEP C is spread by sex activity no doubt about it ,clinical studies prove that,not that easily like HEP B.
And HEP G is mostly by the blood transfusion.
But clinical studies also didn't give a proof about those 30-40% with no risky contacts.

 

[Byrone]

Do you guys have any idea what it costs to produce a retail Drug? and you aren't even allowed to keep it, you only get 10 years to reclaim your R+D money in expenses.

Africans have AIDS because they are idiots and do not use contraception.


You're suggestion that companies are creating viri in order to make profits, this isn't V for vendetta.

That is such an idiotic & ignorant thing for you to say,honestly.You have never been to africa & experienced what these people go through.Some cant afford a meal,yet alone contraception.

Hospitals & clinics are severely understaffed,financially exhausted & can't keep up with the ever increasing number of casualties.These idiots cant afford to buy food,pay for school fees,buy clothes & they live hand to mouth.

If they are idiots,what do you call non africans that have aids? The ones that have secondary/tertiary education & that should know better,the ones that can afford contraception but choose not to use it?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

That is such an idiotic & ignorant thing for you to say,honestly.You have never been to africa & experienced what these people go through.Some cant afford a meal,yet alone contraception.

Hospitals & clinics are severely understaffed,financially exhausted & can't keep up with the ever increasing number of casualties.These idiots cant afford to buy food,pay for school fees,buy clothes & they live hand to mouth.

If they are idiots,what do you call non africans that have aids? The ones that have secondary/tertiary education & that should know better,the ones that can afford contraception but choose not to use it?

I avoid vaccines as much as possible, I really don't trust them.

 

[swag]

I avoid vaccines as much as possible, I really don't trust them.

Do you live in a cave and fling your dung against the walls?

That vaccine paranoia was spread by people as scientifically credible as alien abductees and people who claim Darwin's Theory of Evolution was "just a theory".

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Do you live in a cave and fling your dung against the walls?

That vaccine paranoia was spread by people as scientifically credible as alien abductees and people who claim Darwin's Theory of Evolution was "just a theory".

The most recent example, the swine flu vaccine.