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    in canada the results came and showed that you were twice as likely to get complications from the regular flu vaccine than swine one.
    Same stuff for the diseases, same rate of death from the seasonal flu and swine.
    So why is the swine flu so special to be vaccinated against?
    I understand the idea to vaccinate people that suffer from chronic diseases but why all?
     

    IrishZebra

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    I'm afraid to accept that as a possibility.
    But it could easily be the truth.
    Just like rich white people introduced Crack Cocaine to the Inner Cities to keep the 'black man down'?

    Believing that HIV/AIDS was a human construct is as ridiculous as believing that there's a neoconservative Zionist conspiracy behind the Iraq war.
     
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    Just like rich white people introduced Crack Cocaine to the Inner Cities to keep the 'black man down'?

    Believing that HIV/AIDS was a human construct is as ridiculous as believing that there's a neoconservative Zionist conspiracy behind the Iraq war.
    Well not exactly Zionist conspiracy but it is clear enough that the media are doing miracles,the whole war started because of so called bio weapons that Iraq didn't have.
    Now, after all damage they did to Iraq which supposed to be a leader in the Arab world , no one is mentioning the bio weapons,all are focused on some other news like Iran,North Korea or even swine flu.
    It is clear that Iraq was destroyed for some upper reasons.

    I don't believe that HIV was construct but easily that could be a case.
     

    IrishZebra

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    Well not exactly Zionist conspiracy but it is clear enough that the media are doing miracles,the whole war started because of so called bio weapons that Iraq didn't have.
    Now, after all damage they did to Iraq which supposed to be a leader in the Arab world , no one is mentioning the bio weapons,all are focused on some other news like Iran,North Korea or even swine flu.
    It is clear that Iraq was destroyed for some upper reasons.

    I don't believe that HIV was construct but easily that could be a case.
    9/11 and the 1% doctrine had more of an impact on the decision to go to war than the Media/Neoconservatives.

    Iraq SHOULD have been invaded anyway, Hussein was a dictator and an evil person, it was right to invade just not under the premise of WMDs. The spread of democracy is a very noble goal, the problem is the USA is leading the way.
     
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    Same stuff for the diseases, same rate of death from the seasonal flu and swine.
    So why is the swine flu so special to be vaccinated against?
    I understand the idea to vaccinate people that suffer from chronic diseases but why all?
    think of this

    manitoba has a high population of aboriginal people in canada. they had the highest rates of contracting the disease and it resulting in complications. The first wave, pre-vacination, they had 1/3rd of all the cases. In the second wave, the one we are in, they only have 4% of the cases and they also have the highest rate of vaccination in the country.
     
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    9/11 and the 1% doctrine had more of an impact on the decision to go to war than the Media/Neoconservatives.

    Iraq SHOULD have been invaded anyway, Hussein was a dictator and an evil person, it was right to invade just not under the premise of WMDs. The spread of democracy is a very noble goal, the problem is the USA is leading the way.

    because western europe doesn't want to do it
     
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    9/11 and the 1% doctrine had more of an impact on the decision to go to war than the Media/Neoconservatives.

    Iraq SHOULD have been invaded anyway, Hussein was a dictator and an evil person, it was right to invade just not under the premise of WMDs. The spread of democracy is a very noble goal, the problem is the USA is leading the way.
    Reasons they attacked Iraq was a petrol and selling the weapon to the rich sheiks (that a was a good advertising in their own yard).The war industry needed to be set forward.
    It's clear enough.

    Tell me where is the weapon of mass destruction there???????????????
     
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    think of this

    manitoba has a high population of aboriginal people in canada. they had the highest rates of contracting the disease and it resulting in complications. The first wave, pre-vacination, they had 1/3rd of all the cases. In the second wave, the one we are in, they only have 4% of the cases and they also have the highest rate of vaccination in the country.
    That makes sense.
     

    IrishZebra

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    The primary concern was the threat Iraq posed calculated with regard 1% doctrine.

    Iraq,Iran,Syria,Kuwait,Egypt, Oman and Saudi Arabia are allcontries that need to move towards democracy in the region. I admit that the US Defence Industry and geo-political oil concerns were affected by it.

    What you fail to realise is that the USA freely admits it's intentions re:eek:il.

    The main topic to do with a Geo-Conspriacy of Pharmaceutical companys is insane. It's very easy to scapegoat someone else for you problems, as a citizen of Belgrade your people experienced that first hand.
     
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    The primary concern was the threat Iraq posed calculated with regard 1% doctrine.

    Iraq,Iran,Syria,Kuwait,Egypt, Oman and Saudi Arabia are allcontries that need to move towards democracy in the region. I admit that the US Defence Industry and geo-political oil concerns were affected by it.

    What you fail to realise is that the USA freely admits it's intentions re:eek:il.

    The main topic to do with a Geo-Conspriacy of Pharmaceutical companys is insane. It's very easy to scapegoat someone else for you problems, as a citizen of Belgrade your people experienced that first hand.
    I don't blame anyone,it is just a conclusion and the power of the stronger one.
    Just rewind the video and remember the situation : US tanks and other vehicles in front and US fire brigades from NY and LA slack the fire from the burned oil rafineries.

    Egypt has the greatest democracy I have ever experienced.
    Islam and Orthodox-Kopts living there in peace,they have their own churches and they are all friendly and unmarked.
    I was there in both Mosque and Church and didn't have a single problem with that.

    By the way this whole story have no connection to Belgrade.We started the talk about diseases not about the wars.
     

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    Egypt has the greatest democracy I have ever experienced.
    Islam and Orthodox-Kopts living there in peace,they have their own churches and they are all friendly and unmarked.
    I was there in both Mosque and Church and didn't have a single problem with that.

    By the way this whole story have no connection to Belgrade.We started the talk about diseases not about the wars.
    That is the most insane statement that I have ever heard, what the hell does a Mosque and a church have to do with democracy?

    In fact, scratch that I don't want to know, you're too ridiculous for my mind to comprehend, hang on and I'll get JBF.
     
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    Obviously you are right calling me too ridiculous same as you said Africans are idiots.
    Anyway you are teaching us what democracy is and how to implement democracy in "non democratic countries" (Iraq,Saudi,Egypt....) while you forget that the war (used to implement democracy) is non democratic measure.

    But we need to stick to the main topic here.
     

    IrishZebra

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    Obviously you are right calling me too ridiculous same as you said Africans are idiots.
    Anyway you are teaching us what democracy is and how to implement democracy in "non democratic countries" (Iraq,Saudi,Egypt....) while you forget that the war (used to implement democracy) is non democratic measure.

    But we need to stick to the main topic here.
    Democracy has nothing to do with an aversion to war, that's te las i'll say on it. Democracy in its most basic form is free and fair elections with the executive chosen by the people and the people alone.

    As for your little dig at the start about m calling Africans idiots cleary you have read my half dozen other post because you're too thick, this conversation is over
     
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    Democracy has nothing to do with an aversion to war, that's te las i'll say on it. Democracy in its most basic form is free and fair elections with the executive chosen by the people and the people alone.

    As for your little dig at the start about m calling Africans idiots cleary you have read my half dozen other post because you're too thick, this conversation is over
    Irish zebra,your arguments are really baseless,really really baseless.
     

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    Just like rich white people introduced Crack Cocaine to the Inner Cities to keep the 'black man down'?

    Believing that HIV/AIDS was a human construct is as ridiculous as believing that there's a neoconservative Zionist conspiracy behind the Iraq war.
    We also invented rap music to get blacks to shoot each other.

    But don't tell anybody or we'll give you aids
     

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    9/11 and the 1% doctrine had more of an impact on the decision to go to war than the Media/Neoconservatives.

    Iraq SHOULD have been invaded anyway, Hussein was a dictator and an evil person, it was right to invade just not under the premise of WMDs. The spread of democracy is a very noble goal, the problem is the USA is leading the way.
    No country should be invaded, what an utterly ridiculous statement that is. Who determines what countries should be invaded? You really need to rethink that statement you made, really shocking stuff.


    We all agree that Saddam was a tyrannical blood thirsty dictator, but believe me Iraq's state is much worse with US occupation right now. Most Iraqi people would tell you that they are against the US occupying their land.
     

    IrishZebra

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    No country should be invaded, what an utterly ridiculous statement that is. Who determines what countries should be invaded? You really need to rethink that statement you made, really shocking stuff.


    We all agree that Saddam was a tyrannical blood thirsty dictator, but believe me Iraq's state is much worse with US occupation right now. Most Iraqi people would tell you that they are against the US occupying their land.
    Now Fred, I respect your opinion even if you are an Arsenal fan, but the principles of democracy promotion thorugh intervention fall under the auspices on the United Nations, being clearly a threat to Global Stability to have any non-democracy in exsistence. I don't need to rethink my statement at all, despots should be overthrown and as for Iraq being 'worse' that's easily debatable. The fact is that Donald Rumsfelds bureaucratic infighting led to support for the invasion with little post-war planning, I'd go so far as to say that had Colin Powell been put in charge we wouldn't be having this conversation.

    You can't honestly say that you wouldn't trade your Monarchy for Democracy.
     

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