Nah, there's just no teams who know how to defend anymore. It's just gung-ho all game from both sides. Our 2015 team would walk through this year's CL.
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A solid defense is beautiful but Catenaccio is fucking horrible. It’s an outdated system and really has no place in modern football, nobody uses it anymore.
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And why’s people thinking that if we apply an attacking formula we’ll suddenly suck at defending? That’s not how it works.
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And why’s people thinking that if we apply an attacking formula we’ll suddenly suck at defending? That’s not how it works.
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This split into defensive and attacking teams is retarded anyways. There is no team that wins trophies consistently that doesn't know how to attack and defend well. It's about how you balance those two and I'd certainly categorize the dominant Real and Bayern teams quite balanced instead of some attacking juggernauts. It's quite clear to everyone that you'll struggle to win shit if you don't attack well. That doesn't mean you need to play like Pep's Barca.
Exactly. We’ve always had the balance from the times of Platini to Baggio and Del Piero. By becoming more efficient in attack only means we’re getting on with the times as we should. Football is a progressive sport. I don’t see why we can’t adapt and still maintain a strong foundation that’s always been our defense.
mind you, liverpool IS a defensive team. they just defend very high on the pitch.
and mind you, juventus never was a defensive team under allegri the way mourinho's chelsea or this current atletico are. we just rarely went out all guns blazing, and tried to control the games in the midfield instead. too bad that with our current midfield it became increasingly difficult to continue with the same strategy.
and mind you, juventus never was a defensive team under allegri the way mourinho's chelsea or this current atletico are. we just rarely went out all guns blazing, and tried to control the games in the midfield instead. too bad that with our current midfield it became increasingly difficult to continue with the same strategy.
You contradict yourself. That triple winning Bayern based their game on a rock solid foundation, were brutal on the counter and much closer to the Mourinho style of play than to some dominant attacking game you seem to think it was.
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And why are people thinking that if we apply a defensive formula, we’ll suck at attacking? We didn’t suck at attacking in any of Allegri’s first 3 years here. We didn’t suck at attacking under Lippi either, while having more defensive tactics than Allegri’s.
No one is saying we have to play pure catenaccio, nor have we under Allegri, or Lippi, or Trap before that. Using elements of catenaccio doesn’t mean you have to be shit at attacking lol. Or that you can’t have balance between defence and attack.
But sure, follow the silly modern perception that all teams that focus on solid tactics at the back and build from there, can’t be successful lol
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It’s also pretty obvious that the Allegri teams of year 1-3 here were very well balanced between defence and attack.
But because we lost in those two CL finals we now get revisionist nonsense about how we played cowardly defensive football under him even in those years.
No one is saying we have to play pure catenaccio, nor have we under Allegri, or Lippi, or Trap before that. Using elements of catenaccio doesn’t mean you have to be shit at attacking lol. Or that you can’t have balance between defence and attack.
But sure, follow the silly modern perception that all teams that focus on solid tactics at the back and build from there, can’t be successful lol
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It’s also pretty obvious that the Allegri teams of year 1-3 here were very well balanced between defence and attack.
But because we lost in those two CL finals we now get revisionist nonsense about how we played cowardly defensive football under him even in those years.
Real 2017 and Bayern 2013 were attacking juggernauts who could also defend will. You don’t need to be obsessed with possession like Pep’s Barca to be an attacking juggernaut.
Anyway, I actually watched Real Madrid closely in Zidane’s second year, and one thing that truly surprised me is just how many quality chances they created every game.
Anyway, I actually watched Real Madrid closely in Zidane’s second year, and one thing that truly surprised me is just how many quality chances they created every game.
