Unhappily but must admit that you have a point with everything you wrote,again,sadly to be aware of that.
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Unhappily but must admit that you have a point with everything you wrote,again,sadly to be aware of that.
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Unfortunately this is all true. Juventus is the only thing left of Italian Football and still can't be compared to the likes of Real and Barça in any aspect. Not financially, not in terms of attraction, not in talent, stadium or fanbase.
Imo the only way we'll ever see Italian football rise again is with a strong Milan and a strong Inter. When we get to the point of having 2 or 3 CL contenders every season, then we can start the discussion about how we're as big as the Spanish fuckers.
Imo the only way we'll ever see Italian football rise again is with a strong Milan and a strong Inter. When we get to the point of having 2 or 3 CL contenders every season, then we can start the discussion about how we're as big as the Spanish fuckers.
No you have to do that.If they decide to buy him and there a zillion reasons for that,cause they have a lot of money from Neymar's sale ,or just to show that they are buying a flashy acquisition they will do that.They have a history of doing that.Once they buy him,then they will think where he will playYes they are willing just after they sell Neymar.
of course we have a change of getting verratti. not this transfer window, but the next one.
given that we destroy them(PSG) in CL and marco realizes that money can't buy love i am sure with the help of mino it is possible that he will be sold next summer.
if we will be the lucker buyers is on another table, but i guess it all depends how this Champions League run goes for us.
given that we destroy them(PSG) in CL and marco realizes that money can't buy love i am sure with the help of mino it is possible that he will be sold next summer.
if we will be the lucker buyers is on another table, but i guess it all depends how this Champions League run goes for us.
I forgot about Suarez, the rest are either past it or not on par with our players honestly.
It depends bro on how you look at it, when Juve got Pogba, Vidal, Pirlo, Tevez etc the same question was asked if an attractive elite club would buy them, now we know the answer to that! Also, who did Barca buy for instance this year? Look at their defense and midfield, they are not upgrading them, they are even weaker than last season so far.
I agree, regarding how Juve are selling some of their players it's handled pretty bad, I totally agree.
It depends bro on how you look at it, when Juve got Pogba, Vidal, Pirlo, Tevez etc the same question was asked if an attractive elite club would buy them, now we know the answer to that! Also, who did Barca buy for instance this year? Look at their defense and midfield, they are not upgrading them, they are even weaker than last season so far.
I agree, regarding how Juve are selling some of their players it's handled pretty bad, I totally agree.
That is recent history though. We've bought players in the past that were highly sought after (Baggio, Zidane, Ibra, Nedved, Buffon etc etc) and teams like Barca/Real/ManU existed back then. Things will eventually come around again i just think it is this regime's strategy of not going 100% in on players like that. A team like Real is lucky to have a player like Ronaldo the same way a team like Barca is lucky to have a Messi. Without those two players i am not sure they would be the world beaters everyone makes them out to be. I look at english teams + PSG who spend all sorts of money to bring players in and at the end of the year they are in the same boat as us..no CL trophy.
You are kind of right although, Juve has made amazing progress over the last 7 years and revenues are up significantly. Success breeds success. Us spending 90m on Higuain would have been completely unheard of only a few years ago. Yes players leave us but we attract great players too especially after having been in the CL final 2 out of the last 3 years.
Actually the biggest thing holding us back is Serie A itself. In a way, its good for us that Milan and Inter spend big and become competitive again and Roma will build a new stadium etc. Serie A I think has bottomed and has scope to improve although this will take time.
The club's management is superb in my opinion despite slight differences of opinion relating to letting players go......who knows, if we continue along the path we are on, we may very well start competing with big clubs for players like Neymar, Bale etc and we will have fewer players who want to leave. If Milan and Inter can become competitive again, all of a sudden joining Juventus will have far greater cache`
Actually the biggest thing holding us back is Serie A itself. In a way, its good for us that Milan and Inter spend big and become competitive again and Roma will build a new stadium etc. Serie A I think has bottomed and has scope to improve although this will take time.
The club's management is superb in my opinion despite slight differences of opinion relating to letting players go......who knows, if we continue along the path we are on, we may very well start competing with big clubs for players like Neymar, Bale etc and we will have fewer players who want to leave. If Milan and Inter can become competitive again, all of a sudden joining Juventus will have far greater cache`
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IMO they were aware of the Neymar sale for quite a while. You're gonna see a lot of new signings this month and my guess is that we wouldn't be able to sign any of them.
And I don't think Khedira, De Sciglio, D.Costa, Bernardeschi or even Higuain would ever play for them (Pipita is on that level, but he wouldn't suit them). I think they would only sign Sandro and Dybala from us.
You're right. It's history. Nobody looks at the history but current success. You're a guy, no? When you wanna hook up with some girl do you have standards of 16yo version of yourself, or current you? When you look at the job, do you look at your first shitty job or tons of new experience?
I bet Neymar doesn't give a fuck who played for PSG before Arabs bought them. Also, I don't think any player is seeing how we used to sign Nedved, Ibra, Buffon, Thuram and others. They see our current team and our current signings. Why would they care about the past? Sure, status and fame counts, but they don't count if you're not in that position anymore. My hometown club, Red Star, won the CL in the early 90s and now we're just shit.
My point being: lucky or not, both Spanish clubs have the two best players in the world. They hold the fame, marketing and money at the moment alongside with Bayern. Players dream about joining them. Sadly, they see Juve as a step forward in their career as we're a huge club, but it's not the last step in their career. That's why I see both Dybala and Sandro leaving in the future.
You know what I find sad? Our signings. While I don't have anything against them that my dick falls off, I think it's rather sad when you see how our moves did not change despite of us reaching the CL finals 2 times over the past three years. Just imagine... a club that reached CL finals... gets to sign D.Costa, Bernardeschi and De Sciglio. IMO those targets were possible even before being in this position.
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They got carried by MSN and MSN alone, and even they couldn't bail out Barcas asses all the time, as seen against us.
But they have MSN. We don't. And players want to play alongside Messi and Suarez. Players WANT to replace Neymar and get his place. I can't say they wanna play next to Costa, Bernardeschi and Khedira. I don't think a WC player would be happy to replace Dybala and hold a presentation holding a jersey next to De Sciglio.
And I don't think Khedira, De Sciglio, D.Costa, Bernardeschi or even Higuain would ever play for them (Pipita is on that level, but he wouldn't suit them). I think they would only sign Sandro and Dybala from us.
You're right. It's history. Nobody looks at the history but current success. You're a guy, no? When you wanna hook up with some girl do you have standards of 16yo version of yourself, or current you? When you look at the job, do you look at your first shitty job or tons of new experience?
I bet Neymar doesn't give a fuck who played for PSG before Arabs bought them. Also, I don't think any player is seeing how we used to sign Nedved, Ibra, Buffon, Thuram and others. They see our current team and our current signings. Why would they care about the past? Sure, status and fame counts, but they don't count if you're not in that position anymore. My hometown club, Red Star, won the CL in the early 90s and now we're just shit.
My point being: lucky or not, both Spanish clubs have the two best players in the world. They hold the fame, marketing and money at the moment alongside with Bayern. Players dream about joining them. Sadly, they see Juve as a step forward in their career as we're a huge club, but it's not the last step in their career. That's why I see both Dybala and Sandro leaving in the future.
You know what I find sad? Our signings. While I don't have anything against them that my dick falls off, I think it's rather sad when you see how our moves did not change despite of us reaching the CL finals 2 times over the past three years. Just imagine... a club that reached CL finals... gets to sign D.Costa, Bernardeschi and De Sciglio. IMO those targets were possible even before being in this position.
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They got carried by MSN and MSN alone, and even they couldn't bail out Barcas asses all the time, as seen against us.
In a way I agree, but the biggest thing holding us back will always be MONEY. Plain and simple MONEY. We will always be penny pinching for a Matuidi or letting a Draxler slip to Wolfsburg simply because we cannot afford to pay those high prices that others can. City sucks arse, but Pep can just point to any player he wants, the club names their price and the oil kings just pay whatever they ask. PSG plays in an absolute shet league, sucks ass in Europe and got fukkin trashed 6-1 in CL yet can just pay 222mil for the worlds best young player simply because MONEY.
We win titles every year, have developed world class players and have been in the CL final twice in 3 years. What do we get? Selling key players every summer and penny pinching on those last 5mils on players like N'Zonzi. If we had as much money as City or PSG, we would barely lose any key players and get almost anyone we want.
We win titles every year, have developed world class players and have been in the CL final twice in 3 years. What do we get? Selling key players every summer and penny pinching on those last 5mils on players like N'Zonzi. If we had as much money as City or PSG, we would barely lose any key players and get almost anyone we want.
While i agree with you on most aspects, i don't think any of those guys look at those teams and decide to go to them because of the players. It's about fame and money. Always has been, always will be. This is why players flock to the PL. If we threw money at any of these players you are telling me they wouldn't come here and stay? The problem is us not being able to afford paying $220M out clauses or guys like Ronaldo £365,000 weekly. Money talks in this day and age of football.
The other issue is our league. Get it back to the state it was and players will come.
The other issue is our league. Get it back to the state it was and players will come.
Disgusting.
If we do sell Dybala this summer, I wonder what kind of BS some of the "Regulars" will come up with, or what delusional coping mechanism they're going to utilize to convince themselves it was the right move and that we are better off for it, because you know, we are better off for having sold both Vidal and Pogba, and now Bonucci
If we do sell Dybala this summer, I wonder what kind of BS some of the "Regulars" will come up with, or what delusional coping mechanism they're going to utilize to convince themselves it was the right move and that we are better off for it, because you know, we are better off for having sold both Vidal and Pogba, and now Bonucci