Paulo Dybala (186 Viewers)
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A club that can give high wages (higher than ours), club that has almost double our revenues, club that has one of the best players in the world in their squad, players that they keep and usually reject all of the bids unless some crazy club triggers a release clause.
If players dream about joining an elite club they surely think of either Real or Barcelona. Just because we reached 2 CL finals in 3 years doesn't necessarily mean that we're the best club in the world, because, imo, we're far away from that. Although, I gotta admit, we're on a good road (bar this transfer mercato which is getting me worried).
After Juve there's actually another step forward in the future and it's joining clubs like Real. If you think we're at that level then I have nothing else to add.
You're right about all of that. But is it possible to lose Dybala? It surely is. Will he stay here next season? Maybe. Will he be here in 5 years? No, he won't. Because, as it stands, it's just a matter of time before we finalize his sale. Like PI mentioned, it usually takes 3-4 seasons, while Dybala has been here for only two. Even if we manage to keep and even if we rejected bids for him (which we did) it doesn't mean he's here to retire.
If players dream about joining an elite club they surely think of either Real or Barcelona. Just because we reached 2 CL finals in 3 years doesn't necessarily mean that we're the best club in the world, because, imo, we're far away from that. Although, I gotta admit, we're on a good road (bar this transfer mercato which is getting me worried).
After Juve there's actually another step forward in the future and it's joining clubs like Real. If you think we're at that level then I have nothing else to add.
You're right about all of that. But is it possible to lose Dybala? It surely is. Will he stay here next season? Maybe. Will he be here in 5 years? No, he won't. Because, as it stands, it's just a matter of time before we finalize his sale. Like PI mentioned, it usually takes 3-4 seasons, while Dybala has been here for only two. Even if we manage to keep and even if we rejected bids for him (which we did) it doesn't mean he's here to retire.
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I can't belive some pf you think we have a chance to sign Verratti . 
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You know what will happen if Barca signs Dybala? People will be saying exactly this: we accepted because the bid is way too high, Barca sold Neymar for 222mln, this happens once in a blue moon otherwise we wouldn't have sold him.
Excuses for our sales will just pile up.
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IMO he actually fits Barca and I think he'd be very good there.
But hey, you never know. Costa might not fit here, Berna might not fit. It's always a gamble. They fucked up with Ibra but they nailed quite a few transfers.
You know that it would be true, or else you wouldn't have pre-empted it. If Barfa do offer something silly then it is because they sold Neymar for an astronomical fee.
Could be that Barfa were in a financial position to offer a massive fee anyway, but the requirement for a replacement is the bigger incentive. For me Dybala still doesn't make any sense whilst Messi is there.
Could be that Barfa were in a financial position to offer a massive fee anyway, but the requirement for a replacement is the bigger incentive. For me Dybala still doesn't make any sense whilst Messi is there.
I thnik everyone knows we're not best club , yeah we did great past 3 years , we overshadowed Barca,Bayern and all other clubs except fucking Madrid , but they still better .
I think it doesn't matter if we (forum) justify his sale , personally I wouldn't sell , but ffs if we sell please let it be at least 150m+ , yes he isn't worth it , but they gona be desperate to replace Neymar and they gona pay , but as I said I'm against his sale , but I'm afraid we gona sell him for 100m + 4.7m bonuses
Dybala 99% would do great for Barca , it it's gona be huge blow for our squad, we finally have extremely creative attack , one of the best in the world ,only Real,Barca have better strikers .
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I think it doesn't matter if we (forum) justify his sale , personally I wouldn't sell , but ffs if we sell please let it be at least 150m+ , yes he isn't worth it , but they gona be desperate to replace Neymar and they gona pay , but as I said I'm against his sale , but I'm afraid we gona sell him for 100m + 4.7m bonuses
Dybala 99% would do great for Barca , it it's gona be huge blow for our squad, we finally have extremely creative attack , one of the best in the world ,only Real,Barca have better strikers .
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Money wise they are ahead obviously and for obvious reasons and that is mainly the biggest reason why players want to play for Barcelona and not Juve for instance. Second reason is mainly because their fan-base has increased worldwide in the last 7-8 years, before that they were no where up to Juve's.
Players want to play with the best players? Of course, but apart from Messi, we are pretty much ahead of them in terms of player's qualities.
Another good reason is because Serie a quality has fell. Once serie a is back, Juve will be among three clubs in the world like it has always been the case.
Players want to play with the best players? Of course, but apart from Messi, we are pretty much ahead of them in terms of player's qualities.
Another good reason is because Serie a quality has fell. Once serie a is back, Juve will be among three clubs in the world like it has always been the case.
He can leave, but I want CASH to be dropped bigtime!!! dont give him away easily. If we bend over like with Vidal again it would be a real shame to our club. Show some balls and stand your ground for once.
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And the people thinking about Veratti : forget it! We cant even sign Matuidi, matic or Nzonzi, Hell even Cancelo. What makes you think we have a chance for Veratti?
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And the people thinking about Veratti : forget it! We cant even sign Matuidi, matic or Nzonzi, Hell even Cancelo. What makes you think we have a chance for Veratti?
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Suarez? Iniesta? Alba? Mascherano? Rakitic etc. They also have some good young players like Umtiti and Vidal.
You're right, though, money wise. But it's that money that brings you quality. It's just that Real Madrid does it a lot better than Barca.
Let me ask you something. Answer me honestly. Do you think an attractive club/elite club would end up buying D.Costa, Bernardeschi and De Sciglio? And selling Bonucci while not even replacing him. Because, imo, a top club would never buy such players.
I'm not saying we're signing shit players, but we're obviously not even competiting to buy top players simply because we cannot do that. Yes, one may say that we bought Pipita, but come on, we spent so much just because we sold Pogba. Just like we're gonna spend so much IF we sell Dybala eventually.
Look at our recent moves. Tevez, Vidal, Pirlo, Barzagli, Morata, Rugani, Caldara, Dybala, Pogba, etc. You see the pattern? It's players that needed to revive their career and young players with potential that we could place our hands on using the opportunity/Raiola. We ended up shaping Pogba & Morata and shipping them off. We did the same with Vidal. We're doing it with Dybala now.
We are a great club and in the top 10 in the world. No doubt about that. But we can't compete with the top clubs when it comes to players. That's why we never chase Neymar, James Rodriguez, Suarez, Jesus and others. It's money that gets them and money is coming from Spanish clubs, Bayern and some Arabs.
I might be wrong but I think once player has taken its shape I think they dream about Real and Barca. I also think playing at Camp Nou that's always filled is a big deal for them. And it's not just Barca per se, but Spain, and La Liga. I think their league is far more attractive than Serie A. In Spain you compete with Real Madrid, the best club in world, and you get to play alongside Messi. It's a big deal. In Italy you get to play infront of 30% crowd in the empty stadiums, horrible stadiums and without any tough competition. Napoli is strong but they spend peanuts. Roma was strong yet they sold everyone. It's just us. Once you reach a certain level I think players desire to leave the club, just like it happened with Vidal, Pogba and others. And mark my words. It's going to happen with both Dybala and Sandro. It's just a matter of time. It might be next summer, or 2-3 years. But they will leave us for top clubs.
You're right, though, money wise. But it's that money that brings you quality. It's just that Real Madrid does it a lot better than Barca.
Let me ask you something. Answer me honestly. Do you think an attractive club/elite club would end up buying D.Costa, Bernardeschi and De Sciglio? And selling Bonucci while not even replacing him. Because, imo, a top club would never buy such players.
I'm not saying we're signing shit players, but we're obviously not even competiting to buy top players simply because we cannot do that. Yes, one may say that we bought Pipita, but come on, we spent so much just because we sold Pogba. Just like we're gonna spend so much IF we sell Dybala eventually.
Look at our recent moves. Tevez, Vidal, Pirlo, Barzagli, Morata, Rugani, Caldara, Dybala, Pogba, etc. You see the pattern? It's players that needed to revive their career and young players with potential that we could place our hands on using the opportunity/Raiola. We ended up shaping Pogba & Morata and shipping them off. We did the same with Vidal. We're doing it with Dybala now.
We are a great club and in the top 10 in the world. No doubt about that. But we can't compete with the top clubs when it comes to players. That's why we never chase Neymar, James Rodriguez, Suarez, Jesus and others. It's money that gets them and money is coming from Spanish clubs, Bayern and some Arabs.
I might be wrong but I think once player has taken its shape I think they dream about Real and Barca. I also think playing at Camp Nou that's always filled is a big deal for them. And it's not just Barca per se, but Spain, and La Liga. I think their league is far more attractive than Serie A. In Spain you compete with Real Madrid, the best club in world, and you get to play alongside Messi. It's a big deal. In Italy you get to play infront of 30% crowd in the empty stadiums, horrible stadiums and without any tough competition. Napoli is strong but they spend peanuts. Roma was strong yet they sold everyone. It's just us. Once you reach a certain level I think players desire to leave the club, just like it happened with Vidal, Pogba and others. And mark my words. It's going to happen with both Dybala and Sandro. It's just a matter of time. It might be next summer, or 2-3 years. But they will leave us for top clubs.