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CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,321
The only reason I wouldn’t agree to sell him is because I don’t think we’d spend his money Wisely.

Any Europe-proven world class star will cost something we’re not in the habit of spending. And honestly all three areas need to be strengthened. We’re basically back to the drawing board meaning that Dybalas money would be used not for one expensive guaranteed big stage name but for quantity instead.
 

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Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,891
I've said it a million times. He needs to play as closer to goal as possible. His strength is finishing and dribbling. He doesnt have the pace to take on players nor has the passing qualities of a Messi.

Its natural he's going to struggle when you're expecting him to be Iniesta because of the incompetency of our midfielders or the lack of technical quality in midfield. Buying Higuain to partner him might just have been an error in judgement from the management in the grand scheme of things.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
The only reason I wouldn’t agree to sell him is because I don’t think we’d spend his money Wisely.

Any Europe-proven world class star will cost something we’re not in the habit of spending. And honestly all three areas need to be strengthened. We’re basically back to the drawing board meaning that Dybalas money would be used not for one expensive guaranteed big stage name but for quantity instead.
We need 1 WC box-to-box CM of the Vidal mold, a WC RB, and probably a 3rd/4th choice young CM (Emre Can, etc), and one more winger.

I'd like to see Allegri play Dybala closer to goal. Even as an inside winger on the right. Get him out of that deep CAM role where he's constantly building up play 50 yards from goal. He's lethal around the box and should spend most of the match their. Get a machine of a RB, and play Dybala as in inside RWF.

Either that or play a proper 4-4-2 instead of this 4-2-3-1, where Dybala is playing beside Higuain instead of behind him. Dybala is not a CAM, his passing isn't good enough for it. He's an SS or a 9. He can be our Romario. ;)
 

Vialli_92

Senior Member
Mar 7, 2013
6,500
As long as Allegri is here I see no benefit in having Dybala

That €200 million could be used to reinforce the team in areas that are severely lacking

Allegri will not get close to the best out of Dybala so a large part of his talent is being wasted and not used here

If Allegri will be our long term coach going forward I wouldn't care too much if Dybala left
 

Kian

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2011
589
As long as Allegri is here I see no benefit in having Dybala

That €200 million could be used to reinforce the team in areas that are severely lacking

Allegri will not get close to the best out of Dybala so a large part of his talent is being wasted and not used here

If Allegri will be our long term coach going forward I wouldn't care too much if Dybala left
what does allegri have to do with dybala just looking off in almost every big game? i promise u he would have scored at least 2 goals yesterday if this had been a serie a game. it's not on the coach, it's his own mental problem. shortly after the 1:0 there was an incident where he got a perfect pass inside the box (left hand side on his strong foot). if he just shoots it that's an easy goal for a player of his calibre. but since this is the cl he hesitates... so ramos gets close and blocks his shot. sane with the freekicks. he scores at least one of those in serie a. the misplaced passes, the bad touches. no confidence in his dribblings... it's all in his head. he has those abilities. that's not on allegri. the missed penalties vs lazio and atalanta... it all points to mental weakness.
 

Kian

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2011
589
He had no opportunity to score besides the free kicks, it's nonsense to say he'd have 2 goals if that was Serie A
he did! check minute 5:55. if he doesn't hesitate that's a goal for a player of his calibre. he just hesitates. i am not knocking his ability here, it's just all in his head. and it's not the first time!
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
what does allegri have to do with dybala just looking off in almost every big game? i promise u he would have scored at least 2 goals yesterday if this had been a serie a game. it's not on the coach, it's his own mental problem. shortly after the 1:0 there was an incident where he got a perfect pass inside the box (left hand side on his strong foot). if he just shoots it that's an easy goal for a player of his calibre. but since this is the cl he hesitates... so ramos gets close and blocks his shot. sane with the freekicks. he scores at least one of those in serie a. the misplaced passes, the bad touches. no confidence in his dribblings... it's all in his head. he has those abilities. that's not on allegri. the missed penalties vs lazio and atalanta... it all points to mental weakness.

Is both ways,

Dybala has a midget mental problem when it comes to CL, a serious one and i dont want anyone denying this because his numbers are amauri worthy or worst in the CL.

But allegri also make this team rely WAYYY to much on a dybala or Higuain magical moment that is absurd. We play lethargic attacking football and then we blame dybala or Higuain for not driblling whole defenses on their own.. or missing the only half backed chance in the night...

They are not CR7 material... but we for sure make their lives miserable.
 

Cerval

Senior Member
Feb 20, 2016
26,829
he did! check minute 5:55. if he doesn't hesitate that's a goal for a player of his calibre. he just hesitates. i am not knocking his ability here, it's just all in his head. and it's not the first time!
You're taking for granted creating chances out of nothing and you're painting a wrong picture of Dybala in CL. He has the determination to improve and has no mental block, he scored against Spurs, he scored against Barcelona. He has it in him.

I hope I'm not the first one to break it to you, but CL is of higher quality than Serie A. He nonetheless has had the drive to be more consistent in CL granted there's better teams.

You're being an ingrate persecuting him and not deserving a team having the range of quality he provides. When he'll be scoring for fun the day he reaches his peak here or at another team you'll end up sorry.
 

Vialli_92

Senior Member
Mar 7, 2013
6,500
Is both ways,

Dybala has a midget mental problem when it comes to CL, a serious one and i dont want anyone denying this because his numbers are amauri worthy or worst in the CL.

But allegri also make this team rely WAYYY to much on a dybala or Higuain magical moment that is absurd. We play lethargic attacking football and then we blame dybala or Higuain for not driblling whole defenses on their own.. or missing the only half backed chance in the night...

They are not CR7 material... but we for sure make their lives miserable.
CR7 maybe scores the Higuain chance but he did miss 2 easy chances and could have scored 4 goals last night

So maybe CR7 still doesn't score in our team last night which goes to show how big our problems are in attack that one of the best goalscorers ever wouldn't score
 

Kian

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2011
589
You're taking for granted creating chances out of nothing and you're painting a wrong picture of Dybala in CL. He has the determination to improve and has no mental block, he scored against Spurs, he scored against Barcelona. He has it in him.

I hope I'm not the first one to break it to you, but CL is of higher quality than Serie A. He nonetheless has had the drive to be more consistent in CL granted there's better teams.

You're being an ingrate persecuting him and not deserving a team having the range of quality he provides. When he'll be scoring for fun the day he reaches his peak at another team you'll end up sorry.
I am a big Dybala fan but I am not delusional. I try to watch every game without any prejudice but it has just become a common thing with him. It has nothing to do with being ingrateful. But u sure as hell can't tell me has lived up to expectations when it comes to CL. 6 goals in 26 CL matches. And he is supposed to be our best player, our 100,150 or whatever million player. U can't knock me for holding "La Joya" to a higher standard than anyone else. He is not a little boy anymore. Enough with the excuses. It's fairly obvious something is wrong and u are actually just fanboying at the highest level. Would I be knocking Khedira, Higuain oder Sturaro nobody would say anything. But noooo don't criticize our Golden Boy. Are you not frustrated with all of this? Higuain got bashed by many fans when he scored 2 goals against Tottenham. If that was Dybala he would be better than Messi in ur eyes. It's just double standards. Look at what I mean: 5:55 with the chance (he takes this in any other match), 22:33 with the pass that he would never misplace in a normal match. 25:39 for a horrrrrrrrribble attempt to stop the ball what results in Bentancur's yellow card. That's all nervousness or whatever. And there was more I am just too lazy to watch the whole game again.
 

Kian

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2011
589
Is both ways,

Dybala has a midget mental problem when it comes to CL, a serious one and i dont want anyone denying this because his numbers are amauri worthy or worst in the CL.

But allegri also make this team rely WAYYY to much on a dybala or Higuain magical moment that is absurd. We play lethargic attacking football and then we blame dybala or Higuain for not driblling whole defenses on their own.. or missing the only half backed chance in the night...

They are not CR7 material... but we for sure make their lives miserable.
I can live with that. But I think somehow Allegri is still underappreciated around here. When it comes to Dybala for example what choice does Allegri really have since he doesn't really fit our formation. And since Douglas Costa has emerged as a viable starter and before that with Berna's good games, I think the team had enough help in attack. It just so happens that DC had an off-night and Berna wasn't fit. Plus Berna also disappointed in the 1st leg against Tottenham.
 

Cerval

Senior Member
Feb 20, 2016
26,829
I am a big Dybala fan but I am not delusional. I try to watch every game without any prejudice but it has just become a common thing with him. It has nothing to do with being ingrateful. But u sure as hell can't tell me has lived up to expectations when it comes to CL. 6 goals in 26 CL matches. And he is supposed to be our best player, our 100,150 or whatever million player. U can't knock me for holding "La Joya" to a higher standard than anyone else. He is not a little boy anymore. Enough with the excuses. It's fairly obvious something is wrong and u are actually just fanboying at the highest level. Would I be knocking Khedira, Higuain oder Sturaro nobody would say anything. But noooo don't criticize our Golden Boy. Are you not frustrated with all of this? Higuain got bashed by many fans when he scored 2 goals against Tottenham. If that was Dybala he would be better than Messi in ur eyes. It's just double standards. Look at what I mean: 5:55 with the chance (he takes this in any other match), 22:33 with the pass that he would never misplace in a normal match. 25:39 for a horrrrrrrrribble attempt to stop the ball what results in Bentancur's yellow card. That's all nervousness or whatever. And there was more I am just too lazy to watch the whole game again.
Rubbish post, absolute garbage fan.
 

Kian

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2011
589
Allegri relies entirely on Dybala to do everything in attack because he doesn't have a plan himself. Apart from Dybala, did we have ANY threat from anywhere in open play?
To be fair I think Higuain and Khedira had a lot to do with the chances we created. I am not saying Dybala was trash and he hasn't done anything since he was pretty involved in our offensive play early on, but it's just so obvious how he doesn't look sharp at all when it comes to his first touch, his passing and even his decision making. it all takes a second longer than it usually does and that destroys everything for him. just look at the moments I provided in the earlier post. Do u ever see these things from him in Serie A? u sure as hell don't. I can only repeat myself, since he is our best player (and even I say that) I demand more than this. If u are content with these type of performances from our star player then bye bye Juve.
 

Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
14,300
Allegri relies entirely on Dybala to do everything in attack because he doesn't have a plan himself. Apart from Dybala, did we have ANY threat from anywhere in open play?
It's a fair point.

Just about every attack came from Dybala. Costa had a bad game and created very little, Alex Sandro was anonymous.

I think he had a decent game but isn't going to score playing so deep.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
I can live with that. But I think somehow Allegri is still underappreciated around here. When it comes to Dybala for example what choice does Allegri really have since he doesn't really fit our formation. And since Douglas Costa has emerged as a viable starter and before that with Berna's good games, I think the team had enough help in attack. It just so happens that DC had an off-night and Berna wasn't fit. Plus Berna also disappointed in the 1st leg against Tottenham.
Sorry but he is the coach and he needs to find a solution for this. If he doesnt fit and is making our team unstable then he needs to tell the board that dybala needs to be sold for a greater good. Or if he believes in dybala, then make the team play better football for dybala to not be dry of chances.

Whatever the outcome, thats a problem he has to solve and responsability cannot be taken from him.
 

Kian

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2011
589
Sorry but he is the coach and he needs to find a solution for this. If he doesnt fit and is making our team unstable then he needs to tell the board that dybala needs to be sold for a greater good. Or if he believes in dybala, then make the team play better football for dybala to not be dry of chances.

Whatever the outcome, thats a problem he has to solve and responsability cannot be taken from him.
I agree with u here, but selling Dybala for a greater good for example is not as easy as it may seem. Try to sell that idea to all the fans. U see the reactions around here when u just dare to criticize him. Plus the board also has other interests like his marketability in mind. In the end money is all that matters. Who knows what Allegri has actually told the board. Maybe he wanted specific players that actually complement Dybala better but he didn't get them. I think Allegri is actually doing a solid job. Dybala works in Serie A and so does the team. It's just that for one of course Real has more quality in their roster, and 2nd that too many players do not play up to their potential on the big stage. And Dybala is not the only one of course, but since he is our biggest talent it's just most noticable and frustrating. What I really don't like about Allegri, but that seems to be just normal in Italy, is all this experience experience experience talk. U can see where experience took us yesterday. But then again I think that would happen with almost any Italian coach, and we will always go for Italian coaches. I think especially in our case with all those lost finals and that CL complex we have developed over the years experience is not always necessarily a good thing.
 

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