Paulo Dybala (119 Viewers)

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B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
6,626
I mean, why don't people understand that it's just media posturing.. It's all strategic. We want to be called an elite club at the same time don't want to sell an image of a selling club so throwing players under the bus and putting it all on them when they leave is the best way to keep our 'reputation' and the fans will buy it.

This all just boils down to one single factor: money.

Either the club sees selling players as a market opportunity they can capitalise on or the players think they can get paid better elsewhere.

Just business.
Yes

We are just your typical fiorentina that sells to pocket the profit.
 

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MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,834
If we wrap up Serie A soon or if we are winning against minnows, we have to try him as a #9 or as an inside forward. We have to know for sure whether he can play in a 4-3-3 either as a striker or as a winger.

If the only formation he can play in is 4-4-2 then sell. End of story for me. It's too much of a sacrifice for the rest of the team.
 

B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
6,626
Yes

Exaggerate so you could make a point
Am l? It's what you're saying.

"Either the club sees selling players as a market opportunity they can capitalise on or the players think they can get paid better elsewhere"

Which do you think it's the case then? At first you shit on clubs image and then go back sitting on the fence.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
If we wrap up Serie A soon or if we are winning against minnows, we have to try him as a #9 or as an inside forward. We have to know for sure whether he can play in a 4-3-3 either as a striker or as a winger.

If the only formation he can play in is 4-4-2 then sell. End of story for me. It's too much of a sacrifice for the rest of the team.
Last line i agree. And with pain in my heart because i have grew font of dybalas as our primary player, but ffs, the coach and the board will have to sit down and talk about this. Because you make those kind of formation sacrifices just for top of the line proven player which you can base your formation on.... But not for this current dybala.

Who knows, maybe his greedy brother will try to pounce on this and force a sale with the excuse that dybala is being dragged by a defensive minded team. And he would be probably rIght.

It will depend on what dybaa thinks too, but u get the point
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,891
Am l? It's what you're saying.

"Either the club sees selling players as a market opportunity they can capitalise on or the players think they can get paid better elsewhere"

Which do you think it's the case then? At first you shit on clubs image and then go back sitting on the fence.
That is no exaggeration on my part. Its what Juventus has been doing for the past few years and it has worked successfully. Vidal sale was a market opportunity as claimed by Allegri , Bonucci was among similar lines. Pogba wanted to get paid better so he left. What i have said anything thats wrong or an exaggeration ?

It ultimately boils down to money. We either pay our best players or we sell and look to bring new players with that money. If you got touchy over me stating facts then please forgive me.

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Or maybe you must have misinterpreted that 'capitalize on' completely.
 

B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
6,626
That is no exaggeration on my part. Its what Juventus has been doing for the past few years and it has worked successfully. Vidal sale was a market opportunity as claimed by Allegri , Bonucci was among similar lines. Pogba wanted to get paid better so he left. What i have said anything thats wrong or an exaggeration ?

It ultimately boils down to money. We either pay our best players or we sell and look to bring new players with that money. If you got touchy over me stating facts then please forgive me.

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Or maybe you must have misinterpreted that 'capitalize on' completely.
I know you got that mindset since Pogba saga and frequenting red cafe. What market opportunity to capitalize? His sale hardly paid off for Higuain.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,891
I know you got that mindset since Pogba saga and frequenting red cafe. What market opportunity to capitalize? His sale hardly paid off for Higuain.
Do you even understand my post or here to make pointless arguments ?

'Market opportunity to capitalize' as in us selling Vidal and bringing Sandro

Selling Pogba and bringing Pjanic and Higuain

Selling Bonucci and bringing Bernardeschi

See we have sold players but bought in good players. Basically market opportunities which the management says which we capitalized on and bought good players but i dont know for how long we can continue this policy to remain at the top.

Now please come back with a sensible reply or just shut the fuck up instead of jumping at people's posts without getting the whole context.
 

B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
6,626
Do you even understand my post or here to make pointless arguments ?

'Market opportunity to capitalize' as in us selling Vidal and bringing Sandro

Selling Pogba and bringing Pjanic and Higuain

Selling Bonucci and bringing Bernardeschi

See we have sold players but bought in good players. Basically market opportunities which the management says which we capitalized on and bought good players but i dont know for how long we can continue this policy to remain at the top.

Now please come back with a sensible reply or just shut the fuck up instead of jumping at people's posts without getting the whole context.
Yes we sell players that demand astronomical wages, and replace them with others.

It's not a big lie that you can stay at Juve as along happy. It's not posturing. Sale of Bonucci had everything to do with him becoming highest paid defender in serie a, more than doubling his wages than us wanting Bernadesci.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
Yes we sell players that demand astronomical wages, and replace them with others.

It's not a big lie that you can stay at Juve as along happy. It's not posturing. Sale of Bonucci had everything to do with him becoming highest paid defender in serie a, more than doubling his wages than us wanting Bernadesci.
Yep, we don’t sell to buy
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,891
Yes we sell players that demand astronomical wages, and replace them with others.

It's not a big lie that you can stay at Juve as along happy. It's not posturing. Sale of Bonucci had everything to do with him becoming highest paid defender in serie a, more than doubling his wages than us wanting Bernadesci.
Did i say anything different ? Vidal might have been happy to stay here if we had given him wage bump but we dint and instead we saw a market opportunity as in selling him and using that money to reinforce other positions. You're taking this 'market opportunity' totally out of context.

My key point in all of this is money(wages) and it ultimately boils down to that. I mentioned media posturing because people easily believe into the stories that we sold Vidal because he was unprofessional and Bonucci coz he was a 'cancer' in the dressing room. Instead they would've both wanted more money and we would've declined so moved them on to other clubs and used that money to buy other players. I dint mean to imply we're actively looking to sell players , just that we make decisions based on the circumstances which the board deems fit. Its not as simple as one 'ask to leave'.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,175
Meh. I'm willing to give him one more season to see if he can make a jump on the European scene. If not, cash in. It's all fine and dandy to do well in Italy but for me I'm over winning the league/coppa...I want players that can make the big clubs crumble.

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:howler: Sure. Let's sell our best player, and our most prized asset. When was the last time Juventus had an attacking player that made the "big clubs crumble?!" Del Piero? Nedved before that? Zidane? Before that it was Baggio and Platini.

Higuain isn't that player, Dybala isn't (yet), and guys like Costa, Berna, and many others will never be.

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I'd cash on him now :snoop:

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Fuckers advocating his sale deserve the days of Matri, Quags, and Borriello, dem amazing WC Italian strikers :baus: :tup:

Yeah, let's sell Dybala, and buy Belotti, Cristante, and Montofagyu
 

rakib567

Senior Member
Apr 27, 2013
10,087
Dybala was trying but he is not at the level where he is the main man. He needs more offensive and creative support from midfield or wings.
Pjanic seems to give us that creative in the league but this is not enough in the champions league.

Can you imagine if Dybala and Higuain had someone like Isco, Kroos and Modric behind them? We need those type of world class midfielders to win the UCL.
Selling pogba and vidal probably cost us the champions league title last year.
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,126
:howler: Sure. Let's sell our best player, and our most prized asset. When was the last time Juventus had an attacking player that made the "big clubs crumble?!" Del Piero? Nedved before that? Zidane? Before that it was Baggio and Platini.

Higuain isn't that player, Dybala isn't (yet), and guys like Costa, Berna, and many others will never be.

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$#@!ers advocating his sale deserve the days of Matri, Quags, and Borriello, dem amazing WC Italian strikers :baus: :tup:

Yeah, let's sell Dybala, and buy Belotti, Cristante, and Montofagyu
As you say this though Berna when he played played better and scored more important goals and provided more important assists than Dybala has. I used to be in the do not sell dybala side of the fence now I’m 50/50
 

Stephan

Senior Member
Nov 9, 2005
16,642
Tbf we didnt play our best XI yesterday. Pjanic was not there to help out creatively. Playing fullbacks again as your wingers like Alves in final against top3 best team is questionable. If it was that easy most teams would have played fullbacks front 3 and get to finals regularly. That is smth which is becoming my one criticism.

I saw the lineup and instantly felt this is not the best we can offer. Since when is Sandro a LW.

And the attackers were largely isolated cause lack of creativity in the middle. We can only wonder what if Pjanic played yesterday.

And again like i said Costa is better left side than right. Not having fully fit Cuads or Berna on the right from start also didnt help.



Allegri should have tried a different formation during the season. Not Dybala as AM but Costa. Costa played AM and came into attention in europe after some good performances in europe there at Shaktar. He played AM.

So maybe play
-------Dyb-Hig
--------Costa--

Now that i think about it we could try a Milan diamond mid 00s. If we only had a quality RB.




-------------Dybala-----------Higuain-------------
-------------------------Costa--------------------------
-----------Matuidi-----------Khedira--------------
------------------------Pjanic--------------------------
Sandro-------Chil-------Ben-------------------RB
-------------------------Sze------------------------------



* Buy a quality RB
**Replace Khedira with better mid (Vidal,SMS,Naingollan). Just examples of what type of midfielder
 

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