Paul Pogba (189 Viewers)

How many minutes will he play for jj in 23-24 season?


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Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,215
Gourcuff looked really good for a year and a half at Bordeaux, though. That was a great team and he was the star. Second half of Blanc's second season it all started to fall apart though. And that had a lot to do with Gourcuff being out of form. Then Blanc left followed by Chamakh and Gourcuff and that was the end of that.

Lost all respect for and stopped following Gourcuff after he went to Lyon, but I gather that he's never recovered from that dip in form he had in Bordeaux

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I remember absolutely losing my mind over that goal
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
That goal was exactly what made me a huge fan back then. So magnificent, so reminicant of Zidane, the finish, of Platini.

But then first the dip, and then Lyon for fucks sake. He ruined his career. And i really think, he had such a massive potential...

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actually, looking at it now, how many players from that time, absolutely didnt live to their guessed potential ?

Gourcuff, Chamacqucque, Tremoulinas, Cissokho...
 

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Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,215
Ben Arfa, Briand, Carasso. I think you could count Nasri as well. Guys like Malouda being regular starters in the French national team underlines the problem as a whole, I think.

Where are their youth academies now? How can they produce Henry, Trezeguet and Zidane from the same generation and almost nothing of that level since? Was it just a coincidence that they had such a stellar generation?
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Its very strange indeed. Seems like none of the current generation has anything close to the neccecary maturity.
think about it, that generation had SO much leadership, pure talent and determination

current generation seems like a bunch of kids

and even then, looking at benzema, sure he's a good player, but not amongst the very best in his position
the golden generation, had trezeguet beeing the best poacher in the world, whilst henry was possibly one of the most complete forwards in the game at that point
 

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Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,215
Viera, Thuram (fuck them both), Petit, Desailly, Sagnol, Blanc, LIZARAZU! Djorkaeff I always thought was a boss (before I was a Juventino), and Makelele was the ultimate holding midfielder.

I don't even know who plays for France now and I'm going to have to look it up.... Wow, what an uninspiring list of names. Pogba, Ribery and Benzema. Hopefully they can build something around those three. No France in the World Cup will be very strange indeed, and I'd not like to see it again
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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He's not that good technically. Redondo is the most underrated player in history of football, was actually better then Pirlo in his prime and only injuries kept him from putting veron in his shadow.

best deeplying playmaker in history. Becky can suck a $#@!
Thats a really strong claim to make. And beckham is nothing next to Pirlo.

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France has a very good squad on paper to compete for titles. They just lack a leader.
 

DelPiero no10

Junior Member
Aug 19, 2013
283
Sadly for france, a lot of their other players have a tendency of being shit when they need them to perform. Yesterday Pogba was the best french player on the field in the midst of poor individual performances by his teammates. Ribery was horrible at worst, and uinspiring at best. Giroud was a ghost, remy was running around to somewhere, and the defence was intent on losing the match. Remarkable how poor they can be on the same day.
 
Oct 26, 2009
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He's not that good technically. Redondo is the most underrated player in history of football, was actually better then Pirlo in his prime and only injuries kept him from putting veron in his shadow.

best deeplying playmaker in history. Becky can suck a $#@!
its not that people didn't appreciate his qualities and talent....I think it has to do mostly with his modest involvement for his national side....But yeah aside stamina and occasional fitness issue,he was near flawless. One of the most complete CM i have ever seen

Fuckin' Paserella :facepalm2:
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Thats a really strong claim to make. And beckham is nothing next to Pirlo.
Dude :D

Becks, as in Beckenbauer :D

We are talking central midfield right :tongue:

its not that people didn't appreciate his qualities and talent....I think it has to do mostly with his modest involvement for his national side....But yeah aside stamina and occasional fitness issue,he was near flawless. One of the most complete CM i have ever seen

Fuckin' Paserella :facepalm2:
IIRC, fucking Paserella didnt play Redondo cause he had long hair. And tought Veron was better.

Lol, what did Veron ever do in his life except compared to Redondo, seriously
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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France have always been a wishy-washy up and down team over history, their successes have been built on having a legendary individual at a particular time (Kopa, Platini, Zidane).
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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France have always been a wishy-washy up and down team over history, their successes have been built on having a legendary individual at a particular time (Kopa, Platini, Zidane).
This.

They have never been a constant force. They seem to dependt on destiniy´s luck and the appearance of an ocassional maestro to guide them.

Before Zidane heroics at 98, their best efforts were around Platini´s time....and thats some good 10 or more years without being on the big stage.


But is sad to do not see pogba in the WC. It could be his ultimate test of superstardom.

Players like Pele i think were catapulted in WCs when performing at very young ages.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Why would we want to see one of our players grab global attention, attracting many suiters and encouraging his existing suiters if we want to keep hold of him ?

Its like just wanting madrid to come offer 30 mil for him and he's gone
 

Gian

COME HOME MOGGI
Apr 12, 2009
17,782
This.

They have never been a constant force. They seem to dependt on destiniy´s luck and the appearance of an ocassional maestro to guide them.

Before Zidane heroics at 98, their best efforts were around Platini´s time....and thats some good 10 or more years without being on the big stage.


But is sad to do not see pogba in the WC. It could be his ultimate test of superstardom.

Players like Pele i think were catapulted in WCs when performing at very young ages.

Barthez
Gallas Silvestre Thuram Lizarazu
Viera Makelele
Pires Zidane Henry
Trezeguet​

That was France's team in EC2004 and they were awful all tournament.
 

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