Paul Pogba (103 Viewers)

How many minutes will he play for jj in 23-24 season?


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Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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The player X at age Y > player Z at age Y arguments are stupid. The stats are correct, but that doesn't make them meaningful in 90% of the cases. Otherwise, Bojan & Freddy Adu >>>>> Zidane & Xavi combined.
 

PedroFlu

Senior Member
Sep 20, 2011
7,166
The player X at age Y > player Z at age Y arguments are stupid. The stats are correct, but that doesn't make them meaningful in 90% of the cases. Otherwise, Bojan & Freddy Adu >>>>> Zidane & Xavi combined.
It's not argument, just stating a fact.

Pogba has already done so much at this young age that it's too early to write him off. Sky is the limit for him
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,322
Zidane at 21 as a nobody starting his career at Bordeaux.

I'm not saying Pogba will be at his level. But gotta put things in perspective. Zidane developed amazingly after he was 23 or 24 yrs old. We haven't seen Pogba's ceilling yet.
Complete Rubbish.

You want perspective? i'll give you perspective. Robinho at 21 already had over 80 goals for Santos, coming from a season where he scored 30+ goals. There's your perspective.

You people buy too much into the hype in modern football. Already comparing Pogba with Zidane? What the fuck is wrong with you all? What has this kid done to deserve such praise?

You want to compare both players? Wait until Pogba retires and THEN analise their careers and what they achieved as individuals and for the teams they played.

So i ask to please leave this comparison bullshit out of this forum. Cause it makes whoever brings it up sound like a dumb fucker who knows nothing of Football.

Zidane was one of the best there ever was, I love Pogba but right now he's just a fucking kid who's hyped as fuck and plays in a weak league with nothing to show for except a few moments of brilliance and some good performances. Sometimes this place can go beyond ridiculous.
 

PedroFlu

Senior Member
Sep 20, 2011
7,166
And Bojan and Adu never did anything meaningful in their careers. Never ever. Very bad example, it has nothing to do with Pogba. The guy is already one of the top players of the world at 21.

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Complete Rubbish.

You want perspective? i'll give you perspective. Robinho at 21 already had over 80 goals for Santos, coming from a season where he scored 30+ goals. There's your perspective.

You people buy too much into the hype in modern football. Already comparing Pogba with Zidane? What the $#@! is wrong with you all? What has this kid done to deserve such praise?

You want to compare both players? Wait until Pogba retires and THEN analise their careers and what they achieved as individuals and for the teams they played.

So i ask to please leave this comparison bull$#@! out of this forum. Cause it makes whoever brings it up sound like a dumb $#@!er who knows nothing of Football.

Zidane was one of the best there ever was, I love Pogba but right now he's just a $#@!ing kid who's hyped as $#@! and plays in a weak league with nothing to show for except a few moments of brilliance and some good performances. Sometimes this place can go beyond ridiculous.
Lol talk about overreacting.

Read what I said and calm the fuck down

:)
 

PedroFlu

Senior Member
Sep 20, 2011
7,166
Now Zidane is possibly one of the 10 best players of all time.

To compare any youngster to him is bullshit.

But when a guy is 21 yrs old and already one of the very best at his position - I do think Pogba can become one of the best ever at the CM position. Very unlikely he'll be a top 10 all time, like with every other young player in the world. But in the same way you can't say he'll be so good, you just can't write him off.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,254
What made Zidane, who he is, above the skills and all that fancy shit, was that he had a huge pair and broad shoulders. Carried whatever side he had to carry and comes in clutch when he's needed, we have yet to see that from Pogba, even if Paul becomes 20 times more technical then Zizou, until he becomes as clutch there will never be any comparisons worth making.
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,322
Brazillian beef, table side carving.
No beef, it wasn't meant to him but to everybody.

What made Zidane, who he is, above the skills and all that fancy shit, was that he had a huge pair and broad shoulders. Carried whatever side he had to carry and comes in clutch when he's needed, we have yet to see that from Pogba, even if Paul becomes 20 times more technical then Zizou, until he becomes as clutch there will never be any comparisons worth making.
I'll tell you right now, he isn't and won't become.
 

Fellas

Farsopoli
Jun 13, 2005
3,136
Players explode at different ages, that doesen't meen that a player who is a worldstar at age 20 has as much improvement left as a player at 20 who hasen't peaked yet. Look at Fabregas he was great in Arsenal at 16-17 year old, with that logic he would become better then Zidane, but that's not how it works.

Players develop at different ages, I had a friend who scored about 10 goals every game when he was a kid, later al the other kids developed and became as good. Where was Nedved at age 21? Wasen't he a bench player for Sparta Prag.

Pogba can become better ofcourse, but how much? He can develop his mental game, and decisions yes. Still a 21 year nobody ( right now) can become better) Just look at Nedved :D
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
What made Zidane, who he is, above the skills and all that fancy $#@!, was that he had a huge pair and broad shoulders. Carried whatever side he had to carry and comes in clutch when he's needed, we have yet to see that from Pogba, even if Paul becomes 20 times more technical then Zizou, until he becomes as clutch there will never be any comparisons worth making.

Exactly. His only downfalls where the juve finals.... but in the very most important moment of his career.... Zidane delivered with greatness.

Thats the mark of a top player. ANd like some said... he had all the pressure on the wolrd in every single top tier enncounter...and he managed to deliver in the most difficult situations..guiding his team to glory.

Even an old and decrepit zizou...managed to toy on his own against the spanish NT in a WC and carry his team to the finals.

Even in madrid he sealed the CL cup with a ubertastic goal in the heat of the game. That moment alone would have been the highlight of any player´s career... but he also had an euro and a WC final superb games under his belt.


That is the trademark of top of he top player. You cant ask more than that.

If pogba is going to emulate it (which im pretty sure he will not) he has a long , loooong way to go. And when i say that he will not..is not because of lack of talent.. but because you also need to a lot of things fall in place to have that kind of career. He has the potential tho...and still have some good 10 years of career in the top of his game...so lest wait and judge what he can do.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
Complete Rubbish.

You want perspective? i'll give you perspective. Robinho at 21 already had over 80 goals for Santos, coming from a season where he scored 30+ goals. There's your perspective.

You people buy too much into the hype in modern football. Already comparing Pogba with Zidane? What the $#@! is wrong with you all? What has this kid done to deserve such praise?

You want to compare both players? Wait until Pogba retires and THEN analise their careers and what they achieved as individuals and for the teams they played.

So i ask to please leave this comparison bull$#@! out of this forum. Cause it makes whoever brings it up sound like a dumb $#@!er who knows nothing of Football.

Zidane was one of the best there ever was, I love Pogba but right now he's just a $#@!ing kid who's hyped as $#@! and plays in a weak league with nothing to show for except a few moments of brilliance and some good performances. Sometimes this place can go beyond ridiculous.
OK i agree with you about Pogba being nowhere near Zidane (never will be), but this is not true. he is already one of the best players in his position at 21, he deserves the hype. also, weak league? last time i checked it is the 4th strongest league in the world. and he has done much more than a few moments of brilliance and some good performances. he is such a joy to watch this season, so dominant. these comparations with Zidane need to stop, but give the guy some credit for what he is doing.
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,322
OK i agree with you about Pogba being nowhere near Zidane (never will be), but this is not true. he is already one of the best players in his position at 21, he deserves the hype. also, weak league? last time i checked it is the 4th strongest league in the world. and he has done much more than a few moments of brilliance and some good performances. he is such a joy to watch this season, so dominant. these comparations with Zidane need to stop, but give the guy some credit for what he is doing.
This shit about him being one of the best in his position at 21 will only matter if he lives up to the hype later on. Read my Robinho reference above. So for now it means nothing. It only means he has the talent to go further, and further he must go.

Weak league nonetheless.

Not really. He's still raw and inconsistent but manages to find that special moment to do something special. And that's where i give him some credit, you can tell by that he has everything to become much bigger once he's experienced enough. But that's that.

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Lol. I'm actually from Belo Horizonte. But I'm moving to Rio in a few months
Fake Fluminense fan. :(
 

PedroFlu

Senior Member
Sep 20, 2011
7,166
Partner city with Milan? Wth

I like Juve since I was 7 yrs old.. and despite an Italian background there isn't a rational reason for this. But since I was 7 I only chose Juve to play with and I used to love the name of the club and seeing the bald and the white hair men playing on sunday mornings at ESPN :)

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This $#@! about him being one of the best in his position at 21 will only matter if he lives up to the hype later on. Read my Robinho reference above. So for now it means nothing. It only means he has the talent to go further, and further he must go.

Weak league nonetheless.

Not really. He's still raw and inconsistent but manages to find that special moment to do something special. And that's where i give him some credit, you can tell by that he has everything to become much bigger once he's experienced enough. But that's that.

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Fake Fluminense fan. :(
It's a family thing. :)
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
This $#@! about him being one of the best in his position at 21 will only matter if he lives up to the hype later on. Read my Robinho reference above. So for now it means nothing. It only means he has the talent to go further, and further he must go.
i know about Robinho. actually, at one point when he was still in Real he had a run of good performances in his last season there and i thought he could finally make that final step. but hes an idiot, and after he went to City he only stagnated. Pogba is different. he is not an idiot. he knows what he is, he knows what he is capable of, and he knows how much he still has to work to reach his goal - becoming the best player in the world. talent is important, but without the right mentality that means nothing. i think Pogba has that

Weak league nonetheless.
:D i dont want to start another discussion here

Not really. He's still raw and inconsistent but manages to find that special moment to do something special. And that's where i give him some credit, you can tell by that he has everything to become much bigger once he's experienced enough. But that's that.
hes our 2nd best player this season after Tevez. he has been bossing the entire season (besides a few average games).

and i cant wait to see how he handles the CL KO stages for the 1st time in his career and see if he can carry a team already...
 

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