Paul Pogba (36 Viewers)

[s4tch]

So what's the logical solution to this mess?

Do we continue to pay his massive wages and hope he gets fit again next season?

Is terminating his contract possible? I highly doubt it.

Will anyone else want to sign him? I highly doubt it.

Unfortunately I think our hands are tied with this one.

the club has a few possibilities:
- leave his contract as it is and hope that he somehow gets his shit together
- call his agent and either renegotiate his contract or agree on a termination
- fire him, he'll go to fifa, fifa will rule in his favor, we'll go to cas, and if we're lucky we might have a strong enough case with the injuries and the disciplinary stuff. it's a lottery that might or might not pay off (odds are slim, but might worth a try, as the compensation would be his wages which we should pay anyway, and maybe a few millions here and there, seven might add details, i'm not into sports right too much besides knowing the rules)

i'd try to negotiate first, then fire him. leaving his contract like this is the last option, he's doing literally nothing for a fat paycheck

 

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[Rockets]

il nuovo Hazard (Real Madrid version)

 

[bongraider]

they never have it for injuries though, and it's not that easy to fire a player. here are a few articles explaining the potential reasons:

https://www.extra-cover.org/post/ju...f-football-contracts-under-fifa-jurisprudence
https://blog.ipleaders.in/termination-football-contracts-fifa-jurisprudence/
[pdf] http://www.gradev.com/pdf/Art. 15 FIFA RSTP.pdf
https://www.easportslaw.com/news/terminating-a-contract-between-football-club-and-a-player

injuries can't be considered just cause unfortunately. it's bad management from the club. the best we can hope for is a termination by mutual consent, like we did with ramsey, but the player can (and will) insist on getting a big chunk of his salary for the remainder of his contract. so terminating pogba's contract will cost the club 10s of millions. unlikely to happen, unless the fans bully him to leave, or he eventually breaches his contract like for example mutu did at chelsea when he tested positive for cocaine.

For non work related injuries though like if the dumbass goes skateboarding and injures himself in the middle of the season or something similar

 

[s4tch]

For non work related injuries though like if the dumbass goes skateboarding and injures himself in the middle of the season or something similar

if he did that, he could be held accountable

as far as i know no injuries were related to off field activities though

and this time he's not faking an injury, it's not like he feels some discomfort or some shit like that. dumbo actually tore a muscle lol

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[HelterSkelter]

Remember the time everyone thought Khedira and Ramsey were made of glass?


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[Siamak]

He might accept the truth and reach the point where he give up and hang up boots. time to retire, his body is clearly cant take it anymore.

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#Pogout

 

[CrimsonianKing]

I say put him in a army style training camp in the off season, watch this bitch sweat and work

@DAiDEViL Felix Magath still around?

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Posted a Instagram thing about Allah. Not even Allah can help this lazy son of a bitch

 

[Orgut]

Those reports of our board asking Pogba to give up on bonuses. I think our board would be correct to make such a move and Pogba might take it lightly as Im sure he is aware he missed a game or two...

 

[Badass J Elkann]

He'll just get "injured" again.

Shits himself when you put him in the ring, poke him with a stick, and you watch his bollocks grow

 

[DAiDEViL]

Posted a Instagram thing about Allah. Not even Allah can help this lazy son of a bitch

Allah should help us pay his wages.

 

[DanielSz]

Posted a Instagram thing about Allah. Not even Allah can help this lazy son of a bitch

how can you call him lazy when he had surgery and the imaging done today showed an actual injury as well? Is he injuring himself on purpose, or whats your theory here? Is Chiesa lazy as well? Setbacks happen.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Allah should help us pay his wages.

Allah should help us win the treble every season too

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how can you call him lazy when he had surgery and the imaging done today showed an actual injury as well? Is he injuring himself on purpose, or whats your theory here? Is Chiesa lazy as well? Setbacks happen.

Lazy, didn't even freaking turn up on time to a team meeting the other day, suddenly he's injured again. He's brought it upon himself with his cryptic social media shit, Allah this, reset that... that time he went away on a ski holiday pretending he was skiing as a means to say im fit and healthy when he reality hes anything but, yeah thats one way to piss off your supporters

 

[Post Ironic]

how can you call him lazy when he had surgery and the imaging done today showed an actual injury as well? Is he injuring himself on purpose, or whats your theory here? Is Chiesa lazy as well? Setbacks happen.

He’s lazy because he doesn’t put the work in. Can’t be bothered to show up on time for team meetings. He’s lazy on the pitch, led the entire premier league amongst midfielders in time spent walking. He’s lazy in training. And he’s lazy with working on his body, hence the reason he’s going to have missed 120+ matches over 4 seasons come the end of this one. That’s 30+ matches a season.

He has a reputation a lazy player more focused on social media and the lifestyle than the actual sport for a reason.

 

[DanielSz]

He’s lazy because he doesn’t put the work in. Can’t be bothered to show up on time for team meetings. He’s lazy on the pitch, led the entire premier league amongst midfielders in time spent walking. He’s lazy in training. And he’s lazy with working on his body, hence the reason he’s going to have missed 120+ matches over 4 seasons come the end of this one. That’s 30+ matches a season.

He has a reputation a lazy player more focused on social media and the lifestyle than the actual sport for a reason.

All you have to do to avoid injuries is work hard

 

[Post Ironic]

All you have to do to avoid injuries is work hard

Obviously it doesn’t reduce the risk to nil. But are you seriously arguing that hard work in the gym and training doesn’t reduce the risk of injury significantly? Especially the sort of muscular injuries that have plagued Pogba over the past 4 seasons… I mean, c’mon dude. Do better.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

That's a fine line between exhaustion and injury caused by it and strengthening. You need to take time off and come back slowly, pushing too hard can re-aggravate injury. That being said, there is no 100% answer to his issues. It's partially mental, it's partially physiological, it's partially external and internal pressure.... it's a bunch of stuff.

Generally, professional athletes aren't really "lazy" as we would be. They are professional athletes, after all.

However, anyone remember Mario Goetze? Scored a WC winning goal, and not injury, not anything happened to him, he was just gone, never the same.

 

[DanielSz]

Obviously it doesn’t reduce the risk to nil. But are you seriously arguing that hard work in the gym and training doesn’t reduce the risk of injury significantly? Especially the sort of muscular injuries that have plagued Pogba over the past 4 seasons… I mean, c’mon dude. Do better.

I dont know what his work ethic actually is or isnt, almost all the criticism about him comes from people who have never worked or played with him. He's also had no issues with any of his managers except Mourinho, and even that seemed more like just bad communication and gossip rags trying to sell papers. And if he were truly lazy, idk why he would choose to come back to Italy and specifically Allegri of all people; he said training was much harder under him than in Manchester.

 

[A͎u͎s͎h͎]

Not counting the future Europa League games, we have 15 games left in the season. He won't be back until at least the second week of April by what's being reported, so he'll miss a further 4 games. I'll be surprised if he plays more than 5-6 full games before the end of the season. This was a disaster signing, whichever way you look at it. Unless he single handedly takes us to a CL win or something, there's no way this signing can be excused. A quarter of the contract gone, and he's barely played. That's worse than Ramsey and Khedira combined.

Yes exactly — what a disaster of a signing

 

[icemaη]

That's a fine line between exhaustion and injury caused by it and strengthening. You need to take time off and come back slowly, pushing too hard can re-aggravate injury. That being said, there is no 100% answer to his issues. It's partially mental, it's partially physiological, it's partially external and internal pressure.... it's a bunch of stuff.

Generally, professional athletes aren't really "lazy" as we would be. They are professional athletes, after all.

However, anyone remember Mario Goetze? Scored a WC winning goal, and not injury, not anything happened to him, he was just gone, never the same.

Didn't he have some rare muscle disorder?