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How many minutes will he play for jj in 23-24 season?


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bongraider

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Feb 6, 2012
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they never have it for injuries though, and it's not that easy to fire a player. here are a few articles explaining the potential reasons:

https://www.extra-cover.org/post/ju...f-football-contracts-under-fifa-jurisprudence
https://blog.ipleaders.in/termination-football-contracts-fifa-jurisprudence/
[pdf] http://www.gradev.com/pdf/Art. 15 FIFA RSTP.pdf
https://www.easportslaw.com/news/terminating-a-contract-between-football-club-and-a-player

injuries can't be considered just cause unfortunately. it's bad management from the club. the best we can hope for is a termination by mutual consent, like we did with ramsey, but the player can (and will) insist on getting a big chunk of his salary for the remainder of his contract. so terminating pogba's contract will cost the club 10s of millions. unlikely to happen, unless the fans bully him to leave, or he eventually breaches his contract like for example mutu did at chelsea when he tested positive for cocaine.

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For non work related injuries though like if the dumbass goes skateboarding and injures himself in the middle of the season or something similar
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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For non work related injuries though like if the dumbass goes skateboarding and injures himself in the middle of the season or something similar
if he did that, he could be held accountable

as far as i know no injuries were related to off field activities though

and this time he's not faking an injury, it's not like he feels some discomfort or some shit like that. dumbo actually tore a muscle lol

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"lack of serenity can affect the load"

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Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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He might accept the truth and reach the point where he give up and hang up boots. time to retire, his body is clearly cant take it anymore.

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#Pogout
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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Those reports of our board asking Pogba to give up on bonuses. I think our board would be correct to make such a move and Pogba might take it lightly as Im sure he is aware he missed a game or two...
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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Allah should help us pay his wages.
Allah should help us win the treble every season too

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how can you call him lazy when he had surgery and the imaging done today showed an actual injury as well? Is he injuring himself on purpose, or whats your theory here? Is Chiesa lazy as well? Setbacks happen.
Lazy, didn't even freaking turn up on time to a team meeting the other day, suddenly he's injured again. He's brought it upon himself with his cryptic social media shit, Allah this, reset that... that time he went away on a ski holiday pretending he was skiing as a means to say im fit and healthy when he reality hes anything but, yeah thats one way to piss off your supporters
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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how can you call him lazy when he had surgery and the imaging done today showed an actual injury as well? Is he injuring himself on purpose, or whats your theory here? Is Chiesa lazy as well? Setbacks happen.
He’s lazy because he doesn’t put the work in. Can’t be bothered to show up on time for team meetings. He’s lazy on the pitch, led the entire premier league amongst midfielders in time spent walking. He’s lazy in training. And he’s lazy with working on his body, hence the reason he’s going to have missed 120+ matches over 4 seasons come the end of this one. That’s 30+ matches a season.

He has a reputation a lazy player more focused on social media and the lifestyle than the actual sport for a reason.
 

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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He’s lazy because he doesn’t put the work in. Can’t be bothered to show up on time for team meetings. He’s lazy on the pitch, led the entire premier league amongst midfielders in time spent walking. He’s lazy in training. And he’s lazy with working on his body, hence the reason he’s going to have missed 120+ matches over 4 seasons come the end of this one. That’s 30+ matches a season.

He has a reputation a lazy player more focused on social media and the lifestyle than the actual sport for a reason.
All you have to do to avoid injuries is work hard
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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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All you have to do to avoid injuries is work hard
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Obviously it doesn’t reduce the risk to nil. But are you seriously arguing that hard work in the gym and training doesn’t reduce the risk of injury significantly? Especially the sort of muscular injuries that have plagued Pogba over the past 4 seasons… I mean, c’mon dude. Do better.
 
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That's a fine line between exhaustion and injury caused by it and strengthening. You need to take time off and come back slowly, pushing too hard can re-aggravate injury. That being said, there is no 100% answer to his issues. It's partially mental, it's partially physiological, it's partially external and internal pressure.... it's a bunch of stuff.

Generally, professional athletes aren't really "lazy" as we would be. They are professional athletes, after all.

However, anyone remember Mario Goetze? Scored a WC winning goal, and not injury, not anything happened to him, he was just gone, never the same.
 

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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Obviously it doesn’t reduce the risk to nil. But are you seriously arguing that hard work in the gym and training doesn’t reduce the risk of injury significantly? Especially the sort of muscular injuries that have plagued Pogba over the past 4 seasons… I mean, c’mon dude. Do better.
I dont know what his work ethic actually is or isnt, almost all the criticism about him comes from people who have never worked or played with him. He's also had no issues with any of his managers except Mourinho, and even that seemed more like just bad communication and gossip rags trying to sell papers. And if he were truly lazy, idk why he would choose to come back to Italy and specifically Allegri of all people; he said training was much harder under him than in Manchester.
 

Firestarter

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Not counting the future Europa League games, we have 15 games left in the season. He won't be back until at least the second week of April by what's being reported, so he'll miss a further 4 games. I'll be surprised if he plays more than 5-6 full games before the end of the season. This was a disaster signing, whichever way you look at it. Unless he single handedly takes us to a CL win or something, there's no way this signing can be excused. A quarter of the contract gone, and he's barely played. That's worse than Ramsey and Khedira combined.
Yes exactly — what a disaster of a signing
 

icemaη

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Aug 27, 2008
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That's a fine line between exhaustion and injury caused by it and strengthening. You need to take time off and come back slowly, pushing too hard can re-aggravate injury. That being said, there is no 100% answer to his issues. It's partially mental, it's partially physiological, it's partially external and internal pressure.... it's a bunch of stuff.

Generally, professional athletes aren't really "lazy" as we would be. They are professional athletes, after all.

However, anyone remember Mario Goetze? Scored a WC winning goal, and not injury, not anything happened to him, he was just gone, never the same.
Didn't he have some rare muscle disorder?
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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That's a fine line between exhaustion and injury caused by it and strengthening. You need to take time off and come back slowly, pushing too hard can re-aggravate injury. That being said, there is no 100% answer to his issues. It's partially mental, it's partially physiological, it's partially external and internal pressure.... it's a bunch of stuff.

Generally, professional athletes aren't really "lazy" as we would be. They are professional athletes, after all.

However, anyone remember Mario Goetze? Scored a WC winning goal, and not injury, not anything happened to him, he was just gone, never the same.
No one is suggesting “lazy” in the sense of the general sedentary public of course. But there are lots of athletes who don’t put the work in and let their fitness levels decline once past their mid-20s prime. Higuain is a good example and his career suffered for it. Yaya Toure is another. Pogba seems like another predisposed to this. All the physical gifts in the world but hasn’t put the work in. Perhaps he shall come back and prove me/others who think this wrong, but I wouldn’t bet on it. This isn’t the case of a freak broken leg or ACL rupture. These are mostly one muscular issue after another.

Could he be suffering from overtraining? Overdoing the fitness/strengthening/prehab side of things? I guess it’s a possibility. But I’d say not very likely given he’s had major issues with his ability to stay fit under 3 separate managers now. And given his lazy style of play as he’s entered the second half of his twenties, I just don’t see him as likely having much work ethic as far as professional athletes go.
 

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