Paul Pogba (158 Viewers)

[v1rtu4l]

What has Dybala shown more than Pogba?

brain, humility and work ethic.

 

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[Fred]

When the chips were down, Dybala carried our attack in the first part of the season while Pogba was pooping everywhere unable to keep the ball for more than 10 secs. This is what I was addressing.

He was absolutely influential for us last season. Carried our attack when we had a tough time last season. I'll be surprised if he doesn't win the Ballon d'Or during his career.

Apart from scoring some important goals when we sucked at the beginning of the season, nothing

CHARACTER.

Dybala has a MAN character 100 times more than Pogba.

If we handle Dybala right, hes going nowhere

You guys are all talking about a 3 month period in one season. I'm not downplaying Dybala, he's been an absolute revelation and without doubt was second only to Higuain last season. But Pogba's been playing at the top level for three seasons now; surely you're not going to judge him on a 3 month period when most of the team was poor, and the club had just lost three of its most important players.

 

[il brutto]

Now that Paul is gone, Paulo has a better shot at it imo

The moment Dybala started firing for us he became more likely to win it. It's easier to win it at Barcelona rather than at United.

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You guys are all talking about a 3 month period in one season. I'm not downplaying Dybala, he's been an absolute revelation and without doubt was second only to Higuain last season. But Pogba's been playing at the top level for three seasons now; surely you're not going to judge him on a 3 month period when most of the team was poor, and the club had just lost three of its most important players.

He was great during whole of last season, we are only bringing the first 3 months up because it really showed his strong character. I haven't been as impressed in a young player as I am with Dybala in a long time. He really is going to be the next superstar there is little doubt in my mind about it.

 

[Elvin]

I swear I am not joking, I usually don't read your posts because I don't like your username or how it's written.

So true.

 

[Fred]

The moment Dybala started firing for us he became more likely to win it. It's easier to win it at Barcelona rather than at United.

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He was great during whole of last season, we are only bringing the first 3 months up because it really showed his strong character. I haven't been as impressed in a young player as I am with Dybala in a long time. He really is going to be the next superstar there is little doubt in my mind about it.

I was referring to Pogba. You guys talk about a 3 month period where he was off form, while he's been playing at a very high level for three seasons now.

 

[Klovn]

What has Dybala shown more than Pogba?

He has shown more in Champions League in one season than Pogba has in four

 

[zizinho]

You guys are all talking about a 3 month period in one season. I'm not downplaying Dybala, he's been an absolute revelation and without doubt was second only to Higuain last season. But Pogba's been playing at the top level for three seasons now; surely you're not going to judge him on a 3 month period when most of the team was poor, and the club had just lost three of its most important players.

And he was still struggling with form from his injury the previous season... Yes, thats exactly what people here do

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He has shown more in Champions League in one season than Pogba has in four

And thats also not true

 

[Xperd]

You guys are all talking about a 3 month period in one season. I'm not downplaying Dybala, he's been an absolute revelation and without doubt was second only to Higuain last season. But Pogba's been playing at the top level for three seasons now; surely you're not going to judge him on a 3 month period when most of the team was poor, and the club had just lost three of its most important players.

Pogba has played at a high level for 3 seasons. But once he took on the responsibility (#10 Jersey and all) of leading this team, he was all over the place. In the meantime, Dybala was quitely chipping in with important goals and had better performances than Pogba in general despite being new to the squad.

Pogba only started to perform better when the team became gelled and had a settled system. It's no coincidence.

It's been the same for France. When given the responsibility, he comes up short yet a barrage of excuses come up to defend him. Its a fact that he was woeful in the Euro's so tell me why are people wrong in speaking the absolute truth? There's a reason why Vidal is more highly regarded than Pogba for Juventus fans because he's arguably carried the team and scored clutch goals when required.

Pogba has had several brilliant moments but he's still awfully lacking in consistency and he's still developing.

 

[zizinho]

The moment Dybala started firing for us he became more likely to win it. It's easier to win it at Barcelona rather than at United.

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He was great during whole of last season, we are only bringing the first 3 months up because it really showed his strong character. I haven't been as impressed in a young player as I am with Dybala in a long time. He really is going to be the next superstar there is little doubt in my mind about it.

I think Real will do everything to get him as their star player in 2018 fresh of their ban.

 

[Seven]

In all fairness it's the sort of nickname a prepubescent comes up with.

no, it is the nickname some young guy came up with, when his first nickname was already taken basically everywhere at the age of 14 or something.

Exactly.

 

[il brutto]

I was referring to Pogba. You guys talk about a 3 month period where he was off form, while he's been playing at a very high level for three seasons now.

Pogba is great there is no doubt about that. He is the best player in his position in the PL by some distance.

 

[Xperd]

I was referring to Pogba. You guys talk about a 3 month period where he was off form, while he's been playing at a very high level for three seasons now.

Yet Dybala as a newcomer to this team has outperformed him ?

Surely that holds more weight ?

 

[il brutto]

I think Real will do everything to get him as their star player in 2018 fresh of their ban.

I think Dybala will only accept Barcelona if he leaves us which in a way is a good thing because in the Pogba case you could have seen him go to at least 5 different clubs.

 

[JUVEMOOD]

You guys are all talking about a 3 month period in one season. I'm not downplaying Dybala, he's been an absolute revelation and without doubt was second only to Higuain last season. But Pogba's been playing at the top level for three seasons now; surely you're not going to judge him on a 3 month period when most of the team was poor, and the club had just lost three of its most important players.

Do not disagree


Dybala was great last season and there is a massive room for improvement.

I see him the new Del Piero

 

[Klovn]

And thats also not true

Ok, Mr. We are Doomed Because We Sold Pogba

 

[Fred]

Pogba has played at a high level for 3 seasons. But once he took on the responsibility (#10 Jersey and all) of leading this team, he was all over the place. In the meantime, Dybala was quitely chipping in with important goals and had better performances than Pogba in general despite being new to the squad.

Pogba only started to perform better when the team became gelled and had a settled system. It's no coincidence.

It's been the same for France. When given the responsibility, he comes up short yet a barrage of excuses come up to defend him. Its a fact that he was woeful in the Euro's so tell me why are people wrong in speaking the absolute truth? There's a reason why Vidal is more highly regarded than Pogba for Juventus fans because he's arguably carried the team and scored clutch goals when required.

Pogba has had several brilliant moments but he's still awfully lacking in consistency and he's still developing.

That is a bit unfair. As for the NT; Messi and Ronaldo aren't world beaters with their NT's either.

Pogba can still develop further, no doubt about that. But he has been one of the top midfielders in world football for the past three seasons, there is no doubt about that. That is why United paid top dollar for him, the guy's ability and his performances are unquestionable. I can cherry pick periods of any player's career where he was off form for different reasons; that is hardly a valid argument, when you have a player that for the most part has been one of Juventus's top players in the past 3 seasons.

Also, arguments like he can be more consistent, and he still needs to develop further, he hasn't scored against the top teams or generally hasn't been the same in the CL; are all the exact same things people said about C.Ronaldo at that age. Its clutching at straws if you ask me.

Sure those criticisms have an element of truth in them, but they are not unusual for a 23 year old. What is not up for debate, is that he is without question the best midfielder in his age group. People who say Veratti is as good as he is probably don't watch the latter that much. While he is definitely a top talent, he is nowhere near as dominant as Pogba is, and he suffers from the same consistency issues too.

 

[zizinho]

Ok, Mr. We are Doomed Because We Sold Pogba

Nice. Now if youd show me where exactly I said that that would be great.

 

[Fred]

Pogba is great there is no doubt about that. He is the best player in his position in the PL by some distance.

He is. Though if Cesc is back to his form, he gives him a run for his money.

Yet Dybala as a newcomer to this team has outperformed him ?

Surely that holds more weight ?

Dybala outperformed everyone in Serie A other than Higuain. IMO it says more about Dybala's great start to his Juve career than it does about Pogba.

Pogba was still the best midfilder in the Serie A.

 

[zizinho]

I think Dybala will only accept Barcelona if he leaves us which in a way is a good thing because in the Pogba case you could have seen him go to at least 5 different clubs.

Barcelona is the only club id hate to see him at. Hope he picks Real if he ever leaves

 

[Hydde]

I think some of the posts are pretty fair.

Not the Pjanic > Pogba posts of course but Juventus fans over the years have overrated him too much.

He still has some way to go before being put on the level of some legendary midfielders. It was laughable to read some of the posts last season really. And he is not the best CM right now. I would've said this even last year but I would've got bashed for saying that.

As of now , it's an absolute fact that he can't carry a midfield. He thrives best in an already well functioning midfield not when he's asked to be the leader of the pack. We've seen this both with France and Juventus. It's fanboyism to disagree about this.

Pogba is complete but he's still developing.

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Dybala has shown he can be a leader already just like Vidal. It would hurt to lose him, not Pogba. It's not hurting losing him at all.

What has Dybala shown more than Pogba?

You guys are all talking about a 3 month period in one season. I'm not downplaying Dybala, he's been an absolute revelation and without doubt was second only to Higuain last season. But Pogba's been playing at the top level for three seasons now; surely you're not going to judge him on a 3 month period when most of the team was poor, and the club had just lost three of its most important players.

Is his personality overall. In those tough moments when he was carrying the 10, he should have shown what he was made of. Those 3 months should not be discredited like "so? everyone was bad too".

Dybala behaved like a pro in those months...you could see the eye of the tiger in the lad... at the same time pogba was waving his arm up in the air after every lose ball, and writing +5 in his shirt. Let me remind you that is not like dybala came as an unknown dude without responsabilitites....he was brought to fill the boots of Tevez...a world class player who carried us for 2 seasons straight. The pressure for him was sky high from minute one. Maybe even more pressured than Pogba.

Theres no doubt that Pogba has been playing at top level. Thats a given. But he has been always around top players who let him do whatever he wanted without any responsability. The moment he was asked to be responsible and cary the burden of the midfield...the guy wrecked, hardcore.

If Pogba is so adamant to attack without being responsible..he should ask to play AM or something. But then his problems of decition making and overexcessive dribbling kicks in.

He has all the tools to be a really complete stellar player... but his maturity and decition making should be questioned as of today.