Paris attacks (22 Viewers)

[Hængebøffer]

It's quite a paradox. Refuse their right to leave and risk radicalizing them in your own country... or allow them to leave and become more radicalized under ISIS rule and commit atrocities there...

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Sad, but true. Priorities.

But it not just there. They won't stop till they get everything. They can't allow people go fight for your enemy.

 

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[acmilan]

That's what is mind boggling to me. This idea that a nation would revoke a passport for someone to leave to a radicalized state... I mean, yes, you don't want ISIS gaining more supporters, but now you have an ISIS supporter/radical you are forcibly keeping within your own borders, as a free person.

There was an article in The Atlantic where a reporter interviewed several ISIS supporters who had their passports revoked after attempting to travel to the middle east.

Here's an article from February about France revoking passports of suspected ISIS recruits.

http://www.newsweek.com/france-confiscates-passports-six-suspected-isis-recruits-308929

well, I was only half-joking about letting the garbage go to one place as taking it out after that would be that much easier

the so called "moral dilemma" is is yet another way for people to create a feel-good-do-good narrative in their minds about themselves, while in fact being nothing but irrational in their own hypocrisy.
Anyways, I can perfectly understand why those countries would do such a thing - I mean, it's what you'd expect them to do anyway.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

How about we stop invading countries, topple regimes, create and fund political unrest all over the world, that sure would be swell

 

[DAiDEViL]

 

[acmilan]

Not possible in germany. they own a german passport and can not be stopped from coming back.
you can't revoke passports in germany and you cant deny a german to come
back to germany.

seriously? It's a difficult process in democratic states, in general, but AFAIK, usually there are exceptions for "extreme circumstances".
not that hard to argue for revoking citizenship, if you can grant one (not by birth), in the first place.

 

[lgorTudor]

Not possible in germany. they own a german passport and can not be stopped from coming back.
you can't revoke passports in germany and you cant deny a german to come
back to germany.

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he clearly sounds butthurt imo.

http://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschland/2015-04/bundestag-personalausweis-entzug-islamismus

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dude, I'm always butthurt. Like you only know me for two days

 

[acmilan]

How about we stop invading countries, topple regimes, create and fund political unrest all over the world, that sure would be swell

that too. but that's mostly applicable to US/UK policies. there is an extra layer of complexity to events in Denmark, Holland, and even France.

 

[DAiDEViL]

http://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschland/2015-04/bundestag-personalausweis-entzug-islamismus

hab ich auch gelesen, aber wie lange dauert es bis...sagen wir die fdp klagt und PENG - Bundesgerichtshof kippt beschluss?

 

[Hængebøffer]

How about we stop invading countries, topple regimes, create and fund political unrest all over the world, that sure would be swell

How about it's 60 years too late to do that.

 

[Salvo]

How about we stop invading countries, topple regimes, create and fund political unrest all over the world, that sure would be swell

Bravo.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

that too. but that's mostly applicable to US/UK policies. there is an extra layer of complexity to events in Denmark, Holland, and even France.

You don't say I've lived in france btw those problems were there since the 60s, before we got on board with Saudi demagoguery their expression was no more than hoodlum hooliganism, nah this all down to starting shit all ovet the place

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How about it's 60 years too late to do that.

It's not too late for syria

 

[ReBeL]

@ReBeL

What?

 

[Bjerknes]

How about we stop invading countries, topple regimes, create and fund political unrest all over the world, that sure would be swell

That's what the majority of us want. But even with supposed "Liberals" in charge, for some reason that doesn't change. Wonder why?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

That's what the majority of us want. But even with supposed "Liberals" in charge, for some reason that doesn't change. Wonder why?

They are all scum who will hopefully all pay for it one day

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

This is horrific. What is there to say anymore? This is becoming all to frequent. May they rest in peace.

Jesus fucking Christ.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

That's what is mind boggling to me. This idea that a nation would revoke a passport for someone to leave to a radicalized state... I mean, yes, you don't want ISIS gaining more supporters, but now you have an ISIS supporter/radical you are forcibly keeping within your own borders, as a free person.

There was an article in The Atlantic where a reporter interviewed several ISIS supporters who had their passports revoked after attempting to travel to the middle east.

Here's an article from February about France revoking passports of suspected ISIS recruits.

http://www.newsweek.com/france-confiscates-passports-six-suspected-isis-recruits-308929

That's what does my head in as well.

Let them to go, let them travel to Syria and Iraq and let themselves eventually get blown up. Don't want them here, don't need them here.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Why France, though? Why does this keep happening to France as opposed to Germany or Italy or Spain (recently)?

 

[Bjerknes]

And here comes the propaganda again for domestic spying. Right on cue.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

This is so sad. Humans are a disgrace.

 

[Bjerknes]

Why France, though? Why does this keep happening to France as opposed to Germany or Italy or Spain (recently)?

Because of their intolerance, apparently.