Paris attacks (17 Viewers)

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,877
Scared of refugees. Right. Its common sense for any country to know the motives of who we let into the country.


But I'm nothing more than a scared little man
its just so convenient for you to think like this. That is what is infuriating me. It took one terrorist attack in Paris carried out by French muslims and one guy who perhaps came with the refugee current for you to take the opinion that before any refugee in need of help can enter the US, the perfect system for checking their motives needs to be thought of and implemented. That is a convenient way of saying that the US should never take in any refugees, since that system doesnt and will not exist. It basically makes you a priviledged asshole, cam. With the capacity for reflection of an average squirrel.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
I don't buy any of that. Also, the motives of refugees can't all be looked into at arrival, this happens in a later stadium. What you can check is their background and whether or not they may be part of some organization.
It's like I'm talking to a wall. I've been saying ALL THE STATES are trying to do is get the government to reevaluate how we analyze who is coming in. No one ever said a full-stop. Stop over complicating it. We all know, legally, there is little the states can do than metaphorically say they aren't going to allow it. Congress would have to change that, the states can't. If anything, the states can make it challenging for the organizations that would offer aid to the refugees but not actually STOP it.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,337
its just so convenient for you to think like this. That is what is infuriating me. It took one terrorist attack in Paris carried out by French muslims and one guy who perhaps came with the refugee current for you to take the opinion that before any refugee in need of help can enter the US, the perfect system for checking their motives needs to be thought of and implemented. That is a convenient way of saying that the US should never take in any refugees, since that system doesnt and will not exist. It basically makes you a priviledged asshole, cam. With the capacity for reflection of an average squirrel.
I guess this is how I feel
 

Fake Melo

Ghost Division
Sep 3, 2010
37,077
I already told him I don't care, at the most he will make my block list.


Not personal for me.
Wasn't your grandmother a refugee/immigrant Cam? I expected more compassion from you tbh. I think you underrate ISIS if you believe that their strength will be limited if we ban refugees. They are capable of organizing attacks even if they stay in Syria and Iraq. They have symphatizers everywhere and IMO there is a bigger chance of a local guy pulling off an attack than refugees, or ISIS members pretending to be refugees.

its just so convenient for you to think like this. That is what is infuriating me. It took one terrorist attack in Paris carried out by French muslims and one guy who perhaps came with the refugee current for you to take the opinion that before any refugee in need of help can enter the US, the perfect system for checking their motives needs to be thought of and implemented. That is a convenient way of saying that the US should never take in any refugees, since that system doesnt and will not exist. It basically makes you a priviledged asshole, cam. With the capacity for reflection of an average squirrel.
"Greatest country in the world" can't take accept refugees from the areas they have destroyed.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
its just so convenient for you to think like this. That is what is infuriating me. It took one terrorist attack in Paris carried out by French muslims and one guy who perhaps came with the refugee current for you to take the opinion that before any refugee in need of help can enter the US, the perfect system for checking their motives needs to be thought of and implemented. That is a convenient way of saying that the US should never take in any refugees, since that system doesnt and will not exist. It basically makes you a priviledged asshole, cam. With the capacity for reflection of an average squirrel.
:sergio:

No one is saying they can't come in. Intelligence reports for months have been speculating this and whether or not it happened in France is irrelevant. The point is that the possibility, god forbid, that it could happen which should lead legislators to conclude that it might be wise to know more about who is coming when they get here. Uncontrolled mass movement of peoples can be a source of strife, whether its refuges from the ME or mass immigration that isn't related to fleeing war.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
I recall watching a documentary about the effects of 9/11 called "The End of Faith" about a crisis of faith occurring for many religious Americans after the the terrorist attacks... It always perfectly illustrated that viewpoint held by many Americans that America is this righteous nation, with God protecting it from evil. People didn't lose their faith hearing about a million Rwandans being butchered with machetes in 100 days, nor due to the terrible atrocities and civilian casualties of the Somali Civil War, nor due to the grotesque acts being committed in former Yugoslavia, nor due to the civilian dead piling up in the Middle East... but instead because of 3000 Americans dying in a terrorist attack. How could God exist if he didn't protect America, the righteous, defender of liberty and democracy in this world?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,337
:sergio:

No one is saying they can't come in. Intelligence reports for months have been speculating this and whether or not it happened in France is irrelevant. The point is that the possibility, god forbid, that it could happen which should lead legislators to conclude that it might be wise to know more about who is coming when they get here. Uncontrolled mass movement of peoples can be a source of strife, whether its refuges from the ME or mass immigration that isn't related to fleeing war.
Under no circumstances whatsoever are we speaking about a mass migration to the states.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Wasn't your grandmother a refugee/immigrant Cam? I expected more compassion from you tbh. I think you underrate ISIS if you believe that their strength will be limited if we ban refugees. They are capable of organizing attacks even if they stay in Syria and Iraq. They have symphatizers everywhere and IMO there is a bigger chance of a local guy pulling off an attack than refugees, or ISIS members pretending to be refugees.


"Greatest country in the world" can't take accept refugees from the areas they have destroyed.
Yes, they were. But for the last time, I'm not saying that NO ONE should be allowed in. Hate to keep repeating myself but you are falling into their trap of putting words in the mouth of someone you don't agree with.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,877
:sergio:

No one is saying they can't come in. Intelligence reports for months have been speculating this and whether or not it happened in France is irrelevant. The point is that the possibility, god forbid, that it could happen which should lead legislators to conclude that it might be wise to know more about who is coming when they get here. Uncontrolled mass movement of peoples can be a source of strife, whether its refuges from the ME or mass immigration that isn't related to fleeing war.
Im looking desperately for a point here but you are back pedalling so hard that you might be the first person in history to go back in time.
 

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