Pablo Daniel Osvaldo (20 Viewers)

rakib567

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Apr 27, 2013
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I keep hearing that, and it's extremely unlikely. Plus the 'set price' is supposed to be for Torino to buy his other half, not the other way around.

Edit: It was €2.75m he was co-owned for.
that's just stupid. why would they have to pay a lower set price and us spend more for the other half. if it is a price it is going to be a good price in both club's behalf.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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If Osvaldo's record as a striker is $*$*, I suppose Vucinic's record as a striker was even worse before he came here. Vucinic in his four seasons prior to arriving at Juve (at 28 years old), 44 league goals in 122 appearances. Osvaldo in his four seasons before arriving at Juve (28 years old), 44 goals in 99 appearances. Osvaldo is a great bench option. Not a great player, by any means, but having someone of his quality coming off the bench is a good thing if he keeps his attitude in check, which in this team, I bet he will.

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Ummmmm. You do know Cavani cost 63 million right? There's a big difference between 20 million and 63 million. But you knew that, right? right? right?
They are very different players and I never said vucinic is a world beater either. We shouldn't be signing Vucinic (if not worse) level players for that amount of money when our first team using our current formation needs a world class LWB and our bench needs a RWB that wont completely screw us over when Licht is unavailable for whatever reason.

Osvaldo is not an improvement over Quags, Gio and Vucinic.. and its not like he really replaced Vucinic we have retained both so far. If the market doesnt have what we need in other departments and we have to buy bench strikers for whatever reason then I'd rather spend these 20 mills on a really promising young striker or winger with great potential like Benteke, Salah, Schurle or Lukaku or players of that mold that can potentially break into the first team and be world class rather than someone who will always be guranteed to be on the bench. I'd rather even have adebayor or try for Chicarito than this guy. If no good coup is available then we might as well have done nothing.

Its not like he adds anything to our chances of winning EL or Serie A. He is an added unnecessary cost whether as a loan or as a permanent transfer.
 

Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
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Amauri had one good season before we paid 23 million for him. Over his 4 seasons before joining Juve it was 41 goals in 123 matches, which is a terrible strike rate.

Osvaldo is twice the player. over his previous 4 seasons it was 50 goals in 104 matches (not including this recent stint with Southampton).

Neither are world beaters. But Osvaldo is far more established than Amauri was. We bought Amauri off the back of his 15 goals in 38 appearances season, but that was the exception in his career, not the norm. Stupid purchase. Osvaldo has had 3 straight seasons better than that (14 in 26, 11 in 26, 17 in 31) and all while being rotated and never appearing more than 31 times which means he can play well in rotation unlike an Amauri or Matri type.
I am not saying that they are the same quality of player.

I am saying that I can see him playing well here for the first 6 months or so then being disappointing in the second season only to become another expensive player who is hard to shift like Amauri was for us.
 
Oct 4, 2011
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a lose-lose situation really....he plays well we pay a mammoth 20mil for him...he does not play well we keep giving him chances that should be provided to vucinic,quag and the genome so that their price does not drop


disaster
 

Anan M

Junior Member
Aug 24, 2012
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I keep hearing that, and it's extremely unlikely. Plus the 'set price' is supposed to be for Torino to buy his other half, not the other way around.

Edit: It was €2.75m he was co-owned for.
Here is the official agreement between Juventus and Torino for Immobile:

Ciro Immobile has today completed a switch to Torino.
The 23-year-old frontman, who spent last season with Genoa, will now continue his career with the Granata after making the short move across the city of Turin.
The full press release
Juventus Football Club S.p.A. announces that it has terminated in its favour the current player sharing agreement with Genoa Cricket and F.C. S.p.A. (ex art. 102 bis N.O.I.F.) concerning the registration rights of the player Ciro Immobile. The sum for the termination has been set at € 2.75 million to be paid by Juventus in 3 years.
Juventus Football Club S.p.A. announces the disposal to Torino Football Club S.p.A. of the registration rights of the same player for a consideration of € 5.5 million to be paid in 3 years. At the same time, Juventus and Torino signed a player sharing agreement (ex art. 102 bis N.O.I.F.) related to the same player for a consideration of € 2.75 million to be paid by Juventus in 3 years.

(Juventus.com)
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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Here is the official agreement between Juventus and Torino for Immobile:

Ciro Immobile has today completed a switch to Torino.
The 23-year-old frontman, who spent last season with Genoa, will now continue his career with the Granata after making the short move across the city of Turin.
The full press release
Juventus Football Club S.p.A. announces that it has terminated in its favour the current player sharing agreement with Genoa Cricket and F.C. S.p.A. (ex art. 102 bis N.O.I.F.) concerning the registration rights of the player Ciro Immobile. The sum for the termination has been set at € 2.75 million to be paid by Juventus in 3 years.
Juventus Football Club S.p.A. announces the disposal to Torino Football Club S.p.A. of the registration rights of the same player for a consideration of € 5.5 million to be paid in 3 years. At the same time, Juventus and Torino signed a player sharing agreement (ex art. 102 bis N.O.I.F.) related to the same player for a consideration of € 2.75 million to be paid by Juventus in 3 years.

(Juventus.com)
So it basically explains how they have bought back the Genua half, sold all of him to Torino and bought back half of it?

The supposed right to buy his other half by Torino was meant to be orally anyways.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,286
Conte put Osvaldo on a special diet and hard trai nings.Fat motherfucker who did not train in England.Until he get in shape summer will come.There is no way that we will buy this player.Not this management.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Conte put Osvaldo on a special diet and hard trai nings.Fat motherfucker who did not train in England.Until he get in shape summer will come.There is no way that we will buy this player.Not this management.
He can convince Conte over a six month period.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Yeah sure ,after losing two months to get (eventually) in shape.
Won't take as long. If he's an option Conte wanted to use, then he'll use him enough.mboriello came in here off an injury. But Conte started playing him soon enough, despite him not being fit enough compared to the Juve regimen.
 

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