OUST ZLATAN!! (4 Viewers)

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
#81
Rami said:
Funny how you totally ignored the focal point of my post, and decided to comment on the sarcastic part.

NOO Please do waste!!:D <<<<------ Comment on this forget the rest
don't think yourself so smart, ofcourse I won't run with you the same circle you are runing for hours!
 

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Adp_club

Born Juventino
Feb 4, 2006
32
#83
The problem with zlatan i believe is that he showboats way too much. Give the ball to his feet and expect a few fumbles. occasionaly he gets one or two tricks right...but that's only occasionally. In no way does he deserve a starting place ahead of DP. we needn't oust him thoug. And by the way , his finishing is pathetic,and he doesn;t take full advantage of his height...just not a team player at all.Only good for compilations
 

HelterSkelter

Senior Member
Apr 15, 2005
20,623
#84
zlatan and over rated?no.
id be more pissed off at viera rather than than zlatan.
how old is zlatan?24.he's being over used by capello,he's putting in medicore performances,and that's giving his confidence a real kick in the nuts.
he's had a bad season,agreed.but wasnt he the guy everyone was raving about after the great season he had last year?
ppl who call for the heads of our players evne when we WIN seriously piss me off.most fans would rejoice that their team made it through after almost being down and out,but NO..not our fans.they will continue to whine about how pathetic zlatan was.he seems to have become a scapegoat for everything bad that is happening to us.ppl were talking abt putting del piero in the starting 11 yesterday,but hey,he didnt do anything great when he came on as a sub.did he?
he had a very average game yesterday.

stop blaming zlatan for everything.he's a great talent,and one bad season isnt going to change that.

if ur going to pick on someone,let it be viera.a 20 million buy from arsenal who after a decent start to the season has gone downhill.he deserves more stick than zlatan imo because at almost 30 years of age,he has enough experience and enough pedigree to put in consistent performances at this level but he isnt.the only consistent thing about him rite now is running on the pitch aimlessley and making clumsy passes and tackles.

give zlatan a break,seriously.
 

HelterSkelter

Senior Member
Apr 15, 2005
20,623
#86
exactly.he's someone who has very very huge expectations attached to him,and anyone would succumb to the pressure of such massive expectations.

he has age on his side.im sure he'll come good.
 

peckface

approaching curve
Oct 3, 2004
2,357
#87
Rami said:
Thanks Rab, I really dont know how in hell Zlatan has more good matches than bad ones...

@Sadomin and Pecker: I have 34 matches on DVD sitting beside me over here from this season, want me to burn it for you guys and send it over to Sweden so you could have a 5 day Juve marathon and see your beloved Zlatan choking in 80% of his matches??
Yeah I definatly want them. How much?
 

ZhiXin

Senior Member
Oct 1, 2004
10,321
#89
wow wow wow wow wow a sensitive topic to reply to

Basically I watched some of Zlatan's videos and I have to admit that this kid is indeed talented, but definitely not in the same level as Ronaldinho. In fact I would compare him with Joe Cole, becos both players doesn't know when to use their tricks at the right time. Another similarity is that both players like to showcase their tricks, but completely forget that a football game is 90 minutes, not after scoring a goal. This is what Mourinho doesn't like about Joe Cole.

I will say that Mourinho has the upper hand in handling players like that. He benchs Cole when his tricks got to his head. The main problem here is Capello. Since everybody knows that he uses the 4-4-2 formation and Zlatan will definitely be in the starting 11, BOTH Del Piero and Mutu are scapegoats becos both players played in that position too. Capello wants to develop Zlatan into the next Van Basten, but this move stresses Zlatan even more, partially due to his ego and Capello. And these 2 factors led to the deterioration of Zlatan's form. When Zlatan has just recovered from injury, he is called back to play against Bremen compared to an on form DP and even Mutu when Capello can play with 3 forwards comprising of Trezeguet, Zlatan, DP and Mutu.

Actually 24 is not a young age and a player should already be developing into a superstar, but for Zlatan, he is having a terrible season due to the stressed given to him and Italian defenders have also learnt how to deal with him. If u guys wanna pick on Zlatan alone, please don't. It is very unpredictable how a player performs in a game. When he doesn't perform, everybody just go to his head and cry, just like the days DP has been experiencing the last season. The same goes to Zlatan as well. We should give him more time and patience.

As my fellow guitarist axlrose85 said, give Zlatan a break. He truly deserves it.
 
Jul 12, 2002
5,666
#90
Hydde said:
OK man WTf?

the problem is that we were VERY lucky to win against bremen... and the other problem is that ANY of the next contenders will take us out easily with performances like this.
Any win over two legs in the Champions League is lucky. Bremen are a good team and we beat them, regardless of the quality, we won.

Hydde said:
Zlatan is playing like shit now and he needs to sit in the bench and receive some good advises because he needs them.
And about del Piero, oh yes he is not fit neough to play the 90 mins, we know that... but the one that needs to come from the bench is Zlatan and not DP. Because the old DP cant come in and save Cap´s ass every game.
That's ridiculous. Del Piero has showed his value coming off the bench, he gets into the game right away and creates chances. Zlatan is not the same coming off the bench, he needs more time to settle. It makes far more sense to start Zlatan than DP.

Hydde said:
We need to start with the right foot every game if we want to win, and Zlatan right now is the left foot by far!. Not his fault tho.
If you want to start on the right foot every game, then Trez-Mutu is the way to go, IMO, our best forward line-up at the moment. Capello's not going to do this, but he is a great coach, so you've got to trust him. Besides, until we gift the scudetto to Inter and lose out of the CL, I think it's a bit too early to criticize Cap...
 
Apr 12, 2004
77,165
#91
Ian said:
Besides, until we gift the scudetto to Inter and lose out of the CL, I think it's a bit too early to criticize Cap...
That's where your post goes down the shitter. How could you seriously sit there and say we cannot criticize Capello when we have been outplayed by inferior opposition in Europe time and time again? Seriously, do you know anything about this sport?
 
Jul 12, 2002
5,666
#92
ßömßärdiër said:
That's where your post goes down the shitter. How could you seriously sit there and say we cannot criticize Capello when we have been outplayed by inferior opposition in Europe time and time again? Seriously, do you know anything about this sport?
This is a sport? Shit, I thought we talking about knitting...

Out played by inferior opposition in Europe. Wait, when did we get dumped out of the CL? Juve gets outplayed by everybody, all the time. It doesn't matter who gets outplayed, it matters who wins. Cap and I know that, do you?
 

Diego

Senior Member
Aug 30, 2005
663
#94
Zlatan was better last season because the defenders didn't take him that serious. This season they don't give him that much space and time and he loses the ball alot. Van Basten my ass:)
 

#10

Senior Member
Jul 28, 2002
7,377
#95
ZhiXin said:
wow wow wow wow wow a sensitive topic to reply to

Basically I watched some of Zlatan's videos and I have to admit that this kid is indeed talented, but definitely not in the same level as Ronaldinho. In fact I would compare him with Joe Cole, becos both players doesn't know when to use their tricks at the right time. Another similarity is that both players like to showcase their tricks, but completely forget that a football game is 90 minutes, not after scoring a goal. This is what Mourinho doesn't like about Joe Cole.

I will say that Mourinho has the upper hand in handling players like that. He benchs Cole when his tricks got to his head. The main problem here is Capello. Since everybody knows that he uses the 4-4-2 formation and Zlatan will definitely be in the starting 11, it.

I think Cole has prvoen that he is much more than a trickster. He knows when to use his triciks. He is one of the most on form players in europe right now, and the only chelsea player who bothered to show up, spending most of his time marking ronaldingo.

With regards zlatan, maybe someone like trez can teach him how to finnish effectivly as apposed to blasting it every time. Zlatan isnt as good as every makes him out to be....a true world class striker would score many more goals.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,393
#96
Desmond said:
The problem is, IMO, that Zlatan has more to learn about football than he could possibly comprehend and Capello isn't the man to teach him that. That much is apparent on the pitch.
I totally agree and that should not be a reason to sell Zlatan, the guy has something to offer if he is well coached.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,393
#97
Ian said:
I'm confused. We won the match and advanced to the next round. So....what's the fucking problem? Zlatan was offsides, so what? We still won the game, and Zlatan is developing as a young player should, playing well for the most part, but learning from poor matches. The main problem is that Del Piero is not fit enough to play a whle 90 minutes every game, so Capello has to start Zlatan. But, that's not that big of a problem.

I'll like to see all of your faces when Juve win the double this year, and all you wankers were talking about getting rid of Capello and Zlatan.
Do you really think Juventus will win the double with the way they are performing? Had it not been for a goalkeeper flop, we would be focusing even MORE on the Serie A, right?

What would you have said had Wiese not let the ball loose?
 

Mr. Gol

Senior Member
Sep 15, 2004
3,472
#98
Jeeks said:
What would you have said had Wiese not let the ball loose?
That we had incredible bad luck to be the far better team in the first leg, but got two goals in the final five minutes. And dominating for 80 minutes yesterday, had ten certain goals blocked by a keeper who had the best game of his career.
 

zizoufan

Z.Z T h e M a s t e r
May 25, 2004
2,500
Rami said:
No I am not kidding. How many games did we see Zlatan IN form this year? 3? 4? 5? hell 10? We played 28 in Serie A, 4 in Coppa, and 8 in CL, a total of 40 matches.

Zlatan sucks in passing, positioning, finishing, shooting...and I declare from this forum to the world, HE IS THE MOST OVER-RATED PLAYER EVERRRRRRR!!!!!

Zlatan had a great seson last year ! 16 goals for his first apperance in SERIE A !
it's normal to not achieve the same goals this year because :
- injuries
- delpiero is in a good shape :D
- cappello 's tactics

Every player in the world have good seasons and bad seasons !
so let's not blame ibra please ! I'm still confident
 

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