OUST ZLATAN!! (5 Viewers)

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Jeeks said:
Do you really think Juventus will win the double with the way they are performing? Had it not been for a goalkeeper flop, we would be focusing even MORE on the Serie A, right?

What would you have said had Wiese not let the ball loose?

Why you look just the negative side Jeeks, remember he saved miracilly Zlatan's Emerson's nedved's shots and trezeguet's header. We played better than Bremen yesterday, I am not excited at our perfomance at all, but we deserved to win it yesterday.

and why not to win the double? If Porto and Liverpool did that, our chances are not worse than them. You need luck to win The CL and a good squad. Once our players are fit again and back to their form, just like we were playing at the start of the season, I think we can reach the final, even thou there are many superior teams out there.
 

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JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,392
It is not looking at the negative side or the postitive side. The only positive side existing is the result, it is like reading numbers in the newspaper. As for everything else, it is negative. So if one is watching the game, all one sees is negative, there is no positive to look at. Of course tactically speaking.

Another positive thing one can but notice is how the players react, this is a personality that comes from the player, it is not what the coach has done. The coach can let this personality be present all the time, not at the time where it is most needed because by then, it might be too late.
 

Juve_Kosova

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May 4, 2004
11,622
I just dont get it.. Why do people blame Zlatan all the time.. If he aint on form and starts a match u cant blame him for being bad... And every player has a bad year a bad season, and its even worse when u play all the time even when your unfit.. He should have some competision(spell) but aint getting it because he knows that he will start even if he did bad last game.. So its the coach u can blame and not Zlatan.. We all know how talented he is and we should give him a chance insted of wishing he will break a leg and leave the club..!!
 

Il Re

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Jan 13, 2005
4,031
zlatan is having some bad form right now, he is a great player with exceptional talent, but i fear capello is not dealing with his bad form in a good way, and i knwo we should not sell him, if we sell him i know he will play amazing, give him some more time, i garantue that next season (his 3rd) will be amazing, he's only 23/24
 

Paolo Sosa

Senior Member
Nov 11, 2005
2,377
is he off form?? i don't think that a player could be off form for 40 matches. and don't blame capello for zlatans fualts. i hate capello but i also don't think it's fair to blame him for a player playing horrible matches
 

Espectro

The Grimreaper
Jul 12, 2002
14,566
The player wouldn't be playing horrible matches if the coach wouldnt put him in every match as a starter, if the coach sits the player in the bench, the player could understand that he is doing something bad and try to improve his preformance... in other words the pleyr would have to EARN the starting spot, not like Zlatan who knows that it doesnt matter how bad he plays he always is gonna start the match
 

Ilqar

Junior Member
Nov 12, 2005
230
He irritate me in every match. In Juve-Werder almos every 2 minute he was out of play. I think his best matches with Juve were 2 matches agains Bayern in the last season, the second match against Real Madrid in the last season, and a little first match against Real Madrid in the last season
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,392
pecker said:
How much does he want for them?
I don't know yet, but it is not his business, he is sending them as a favour and the profit will be for the time he spent recording the DVDs. Anyway, we'll talk about it later as we both live in Sweden and the mail service is much cheaper within the country than from outside or to the outside.
 

Gep

The Guv'nor
Jun 12, 2005
16,493
Stop this Anti-Zlatan saga!!! Ok he aint playing anything like last season, but still with him, DROP HIM CAPELLO!! ...........The boy will come good
 
Jul 12, 2002
5,666
Jeeks said:
Do you really think Juventus will win the double with the way they are performing? Had it not been for a goalkeeper flop, we would be focusing even MORE on the Serie A, right?

What would you have said had Wiese not let the ball loose?
I think we have a very good chance of winning the double this year. Besides, Wiese did drop the ball, and we are through to the next round. We played well enough for that, and that's all that matters...
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,392
Ian said:
I think we have a very good chance of winning the double this year. Besides, Wiese did drop the ball, and we are through to the next round. We played well enough for that, and that's all that matters...
You're like my brother, the first one other than him that says exactly the same things. :)
 
Jul 12, 2002
5,666
Jeeks said:
You're like my brother, the first one other than him that says exactly the same things. :)
Don't get me wrong, I think Capello's the wrong coach for this team, and it'll all end badly sooner or later. The problem is that Capello's doing excellently so far, and I can't see criticizing a coach for winning.
 

Desmond

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
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Juve_Kosova said:
I just dont get it.. Why do people blame Zlatan all the time.. If he aint on form and starts a match u cant blame him for being bad...
While I do agree with you that it is the coach's perogative to start the right players and thus his fault for playing an out of form and unfit Zlatan, only so much of the blame can be put on Capello. Zlatan has to get back on form and its not as if he hasn't had the time to do so; meanwhile players with far less playing time have managed to maintain a certain standard of acceptable if not spectacular performances. In that respect there's little excuse for his lacklustre showings throughout this season save a couple of positives which, frankly, are few and far between, especially for a player touted to be the future of this team.

There is little rationale and very contradictory in first complaining that we shouldn't blame the player for having a bad game due to his form and the shortcomings of the coach, then lamenting that in order to regain his form he has to play in every match.
 

djleli

Senior Member
Aug 12, 2004
3,579
this is hilarious hehe
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Seduta di allenamento leggera dopo la partita di ieri col Werder tranne per l'attaccante: Fabio Capello lo ha osservato durante una sessione di tiri e uno contro uno con Bonnefoi

La grinta di Zlatan Ibrahimovic, 24 anni. Afp
TORINO, 8 marzo 2006 - Fabio Capello a bordo campo per tastargli il polso, e il vice Galbiati a passargli la palla: per Ibrahimovic a una mattinata tirare in porta. È finito così l'allenamento della Juventus oggi dopo il sofferto passaggio ai quarti di Champions League ieri col Werder. Mentre il resto della squadra ha svolto lavoro leggero in palestra, il tecnico ha lasciato in campo Ibrahimovic per addestrarlo al tiro.
Lo svedese ha fatto una lunga serie di progressioni tra i birilli tutti conclusi con l'uno contro uno con il portiere, nell'occasione Bonnefoi. Non è probabilmente un caso che Capello abbia insistito solamente con Ibra su questo tipo di esercizio vista la non sempre infallibile mira dello svedese nelle conclusioni.
Assente, invece, Zambrotta che dopo il problema muscolare che l'ha costreto ieri ad uscire nel secondo tempo col Werder è rimasto a riposo. Domani si valuteranno le sue condizioni, c'è il timore di una ricaduta dopo il recente stop del difensore.
 

Dragon

Senior Member
Apr 24, 2003
27,407
Ian said:
Don't get me wrong, I think Capello's the wrong coach for this team, and it'll all end badly sooner or later. The problem is that Capello's doing excellently so far, and I can't see criticizing a coach for winning.
Thats what you call blind support in spite of horrendous performances and lackluster results.
 

ZAF3000

Senior Member
Feb 14, 2005
5,348
Zlatan has been having trouble finding the net this season, which is a big problem for a striker. BUT he did produce some nice team work and assists as well.
The problem is that during the past 8 weeks or so the only decent game he has played was against Messina (and inter which was only 1 half, never the less very good half).
Capello should work more on his metnailty to produce better football.
 

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