Oh Sh*t, Here We Go (19 Viewers)

[AndreaCristiano]

Would you say that joining an Allied military during WWII against the Nazi's was noble? Or would you be OK with just letting the bad guys expand until they are satisfied?

I believe it was definitely noble but I'm sure other don't

 

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[Hust]

No, I wouldn't. I don't think killing for any reason could ever be noble. It's a contradiction in terms, or at least my terms. Necessary perhaps, noble no.

But why did you have to go to WW2? Are you trying to say that it matters what the army you're joining is actually involved in?

I just used WWII because it was the first war that popped in my head. My question was, should the US not have intervened then? I am trying to find out how consistent you are in these matters. If no one had decided to fight the Nazi's and just layed down for them, then what?

 

[Osman]

but I'm sure other don't

Are you serious right now?

 

[Hust]

Why are you arguing like you are 12 year old?

Because I have a body of a 29 year old with a golden penis but posts like a 12 year old?

 

[Klovn]

Because I have a body of a 29 year old with a golden penis but posts like a 12 year old?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Are you serious right now?

Yes there are some on here that would not agree

 

[Osman]

Because I have a body of a 29 year old with a golden penis but posts like a 12 year old?

Why did you jump to WW2, extremely delicate and decisively period of modern history, where, it was very much justified to take immediate action or face the consequences, when it has absolutely nothing to do with what we were addressing ALC about?

 

[Hust]

Why did you jump to WW2, extremely delicate and decisively period of modern history, where, it was very much justified to take immediate action or face the consequences, when it has absolutely nothing to do with what we were addressing ALC about?

My argument is only with Martin. He says its "never" noble. I am asking, if the cause is justified, is it still not noble. I am not even talking to ALC, only Martin regarding the nobiliy of joining a military.

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[Martin]

I just used WWII because it was the first war that popped in my head. My question was, should the US not have intervened then? I am trying to find out how consistent you are in these matters. If no one had decided to fight the Nazi's and just layed down for them, then what?

Well, I would tend to agree that out of all the US's military interventions in the 20th century and possibly the 19th century as well WW2 was perhaps one that was actually beneficial to their allies.

So what's your next move?

 

[Klovn]

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Well, I would tend to agree that out of all the US's military interventions in the 20th century and possibly the 19th century as well WW2 was perhaps one that was actually beneficial to their allies.

So what's your next move?

Do you think merde de moms would agree?

 

[Hust]

Well, I would tend to agree that out of all the US's military interventions in the 20th century and possibly the 19th century as well WW2 was perhaps one that was actually beneficial to their allies.

So what's your next move?

I just wanted you to answer the question and you did. Thank you. I don't have "moves" or trying to corner you if thats what you are thinking. I just wanted to see how you would answer the question. I'm not a good dancer anyways if you are looking for more moves.

 

[Martin]

Do you think merde de moms would agree?

I don't know. I think he's smarter than me (about history definitely) so I can't predict his opinions.

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I just wanted you to answer the question and you did. Thank you. I don't have "moves" or trying to corner you if thats what you are thinking. I just wanted to see how you would answer the question. I'm not a good dancer anyways if you are looking for more moves.

So did we conclude that the US participation in WW2 was a noble act? Or merely a mutually beneficial one?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I don't know. I think he's smarter than me (about history definitely) so I can't predict his opinions.

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So did we conclude that the US participation in WW2 was a noble act? Or merely a mutually beneficial one?

I would say noble but also mutually beneficial. Ps "smarter" doesn't always mean right

 

[Suns]

For what reasons? Do you know them? Some people are forced, in ways you might not think. Money, pressure, ignorance...there are many reasons people join the military when perhaps it wasn't the right job for them. Perhaps they're convinced by the wrong people that what they're doing is good. Perhaps everyone in their family did it, and they feel it's their responsibility too. I'm sorry, but I cannot condone the deaths of hundreds of people I don't know, for any reason.

You do know that exactly the same thing you just said could be applied on suicide bombers?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

You do know that exactly the same thing could be applied on suicide bombers?

Only difference is suicide bombers go with the explicit intent on killing. Soldiers do not

 

[Nzoric]

That's not bs it's true. Realistically though it doesn't work. The point is speaking ideally doesn't solve global problems

Really? That is diametrically different to almost every post you make in here.

 

[Hust]

I don't know. I think he's smarter than me (about history definitely) so I can't predict his opinions.

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So did we conclude that the US participation in WW2 was a noble act? Or merely a mutually beneficial one?

I would say noble.

 

[Nzoric]

Only difference is suicide bombers go with the explicit intent on killing. Soldiers do not

False. Even the mere surface of what is actually going on, the part of the story that we get through embedded journalism clearly show through soldier interviews that there is a definite intent to kill.

 

[Martin]

I would say noble but also mutually beneficial. Ps "smarter" doesn't always mean right

Well, let's say that I loan you 100 bucks which you desperately need right now. In a week you're gonna pay me back 200. Am I doing something noble? Mutually beneficial definitely, but noble too?