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[Bjerknes]

12 American Warships, Including One Aircraft Carrier, And One Israeli Corvette, Cross Suez Canal On Way To Red Sea And Beyond

From ZeroHedge:

Arabic newspaper Al-Quds al-Arabi reports that 12 American warships, among which one aircraft carrier, as well as one Israeli corvette, and possibly a submarine, have crossed the Suez Canal on their way to the Red Sea.Concurrently, thousands of Egyptian soldiers were deployed along the canal to protect the ships. The passage disrupted traffic into the manmade canal for the "longest time in years." The immediate destination of the fleet is unknown. According to Global Security, two other carriers are already deployed in the region, with the CVN-73 Washington in the western Pacific as of May 26, and the CVN-69 Eisenhower supporting operation Enduring Freedom as of May 22. It is unclear at first read what the third carrier group may be, but if this news, which was also confirmed by the Jerusalem Post and Haaretz, is correct, then the Debka report about a surge in aircraft activity in the Persian Gulf is well on its way to being confirmed. There has been no update on the three Israeli nuclear-armed subs that are believed to be operating off the coast of Iran currently.

We have submitted a query to Hillary Clinton for confirmation, in advance of her meeting with Israel defense minister Ehud Barak, who flew in to the US on Saturday for meetings with the former first lady, as well as Robert Gates and Chairman of the JCS Mike Mullen. And yes, the Joint Chiefs of Staff don't really get involved in high level "diplomacy" all that often.

Update: it appears the Aircraft Carrier crossing the Suez is almost certainly CVN-75 Harry Truman, which until recently was in the Mediterranean according to Stratfor. According to Wikipedia, "the super carrier can accommodate approximately 80 aircraft." For some more curious information on the Truman, click here.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/12...rier-and-one-israeli-corvette-cross-suez-cana

I very much hope this is a nothingburger and simply regular ship movements. If not and they do what it seems like they're doing, we are in big trouble. All of us.

Any Egyptians have confirmation of this?

 

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[swag]

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[Bjerknes]

If folks are really considering going to war with Iran right now, then the conspiracy theorists are probably right. The "powers that be" are indeed trying their best to destroy the country, as that is the only explanation that makes any sense. The increase in crude prices alone, while we are in an economic depression, would be enough to cripple the nation.

 

[JBF]

The new resolution that was passed in the secuirity council few days back certainly paved way for such speculation and here its flooding newspapers. I don't think we'll witness any sort of an attack on Iran though, not soon anyway. Iran actually looked more calm after the sanctions than it ever was during the last 10 years so I guess they'll head for a new path by which they'll slowly but surely open a new page with the west since their allies in the east presented by Russia and China looks to have bailed on them.

 

[Naggar]

http://www.youm7.com/News.asp?NewsID=242532&
link in Arabic.

Yes, it is true
and they were guarded by us as well..

if the Egyptian president was actually chosen by the people, we would've never let them pass...

 

[IrishZebra]

Boats sail in water WEEEE'RE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED.



If that article got the info of the Aircraft Carrier from the excellent guys and Stratfor then why not the opinion of Stratfor who are 90% on the money months before anybody else?

 

[Seven]

You're fascinated by domesday scenarios, Andy. If I didn't know any better, I'd think you actually want WWIII to break out.

 

[Ford Prefect]

If folks are really considering going to war with Iran right now, then the conspiracy theorists are probably right. The "powers that be" are indeed trying their best to destroy the country, as that is the only explanation that makes any sense. The increase in crude prices alone, while we are in an economic depression, would be enough to cripple the nation.

1. The US wont be going to war with Iran at the moment

2. The US has been obsessed with Iran since the fall of the Shah, little isnt going to change that.

 

[IrishZebra]

Don't forget 3. it's insanely arrogant to think that Iran would be defeated by such a small force.

 

[JBF]

 

[Naggar]

These 12 pieces won't start a war, but it's a sign of preparations for it or most probably US and Israel sending out a message

but if US starts another war it will be a lot worse than Vietnam
hopefully it won't become a WWIII though, personally I know our Arab leaders are too cowardly to get involved anyway so Iran will most probably be alone in this

 

[JBF]

Our Arab leaders hate Iran's guts and will probably fund a war against Iran just the way they did with Iraq in the first gulf war.

 

[Naggar]

Exactly.

there was one comment on these news saying "US would never attack Iran because they are allies against us Arabs"
I want to see who wrote that and punch him for his below zero IQ

 

[Enron]

Don't forget 3. it's insanely arrogant to think that Iran would be defeated by such a small force.

But there were Egyptian soldiers!

 

[IrishZebra]

But there were Egyptian soldiers!

Chariots are ineffective in war.

 

[Bjerknes]

You're fascinated by domesday scenarios, Andy. If I didn't know any better, I'd think you actually want WWIII to break out.

No, I definitely don't want that to happen. It would be a death sentence to our economy and our future.

But I'm not liking these trends here. Obviously, when Israel is sending nuclear subs to the Gulf of Oman and threats against Iran are put out on a daily basis, it's not good news. The media trends are also very similar to before we went into Iraq.

1. The US wont be going to war with Iran at the moment

2. The US has been obsessed with Iran since the fall of the Shah, little isnt going to change that.

Sure, we might not go to war with Iran right now, but Israel very well could. The rhetoric certainly suggests that, along with the article I posted in this thread.

I tend to agree with my man Gerald Celente and think that our leaders are in the early stages of leading us to war. If not against Iran, perhaps in Pakistan where the Obama administration has doubled the amount of extrajudicial killings by Predator drones. That is going to bite us in the ass in the future, with probable terror attacks being the form of revenge.

 

[icemaη]

This is the last thing the world needs right now.

 

[IrishZebra]

I tend to agree with my man Gerald Celente and think that our leaders are in the early stages of leading us to war. If not against Iran, perhaps in Pakistan where the Obama administration has doubled the amount of extrajudicial killings by Predator drones. That is going to bite us in the ass in the future, with probable terror attacks being the form of revenge.

There's a big difference between carry out a counter-insurgency in Pakistan and going into full scale war with Iran


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[swag]

Exactly.

there was one comment on these news saying "US would never attack Iran because they are allies against us Arabs"
I want to see who wrote that and punch him for his below zero IQ

I honestly expected even worse: that they thought Iranians were Arabs.

 

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Noob question:

What defines who in the middle East is an Arab and who isn't?