Nick Against the World (49 Viewers)

[Dragon]

++ [ originally posted by mikhail ] ++

That's the kind of thing I remember about foreign language threads. They were always chat threads for two or three fluent speakers already on the forum. In that sense, they served no purpose.

Ill admit it went out of topic sometimes, but we still discussed football in spanish and posted news relevant to the topic

 

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[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++
I think its okay, I mean for example this sub-forum we are posting in, why not have a couple of topics where people can speak in the language they way, ie a Spanish one, Italian, Turkish, whatever it doesnt matter, I mean really what is it, an extra 4-5 threads in a forum that has really 1 thread and thats it? Or is it we just have to ban someone because there english isnt very good?

Because such forums would be unmoderated.

 

[Dragon]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



Because such forums would be unmoderated.

Moderators can be found for such threads then

 

[Slagathor]

Andy - do you think I've always spoken English the way I do now? There was a time I didn't speak one single word of English and I still wouldn't if people would've denied me access to English sources of various kinds on the basis of my miserable English skills.

 

[Nicole]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++

Because such forums would be unmoderated.

then let Fabi moderate the spanish thread. she is trustworthy enough, and its not as if she's a new member. alot of people on here speak dual-languages its most certain that at least a few people will also speak these languages.

 

[mikhail]

I think this one got missed as an end of page post

++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
But it's not our aim to be that, we only aim to provide a place to talk about Juve in English. If you want to have a proper forum for another language you need moderators for it. There's also the question of language barriers and small communities forming which others can't participate in, which is another form of discrimination from that of not being a Juve fan or not speaking English well.

 

[Dragon]

++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++


then let Fabi moderate the spanish thread. she is trustworthy enough, and its not as if she's a new member. alot of people on here speak dual-languages its most certain that at least a few people will also speak these languages.

Esteban could do the spanish one
Menace could moderate the french one
Erik could keep an eye on a dutch and italian one
Jeeks could moderate the arabic one


and so on

 

[Kaiser Franco]

I would like to apply for moderator in the East Pedmontese forum.

 

[Nicole]

Exactly there is a means to achieve these if people would try and think about it. and we also have kaiser and nick for the italian one.

and another view point. what about people who want to learn more about another language? i know obviously we all know this is primary and english forum and thats fine. but for example if there was a spanish thread then it would give some of us the opportunity to improve out own understand of that or any other languages that a thread was made from with people we mostly know. either way it only improves the place in my opinion.

 

[Dragon]

There is a girl whose name is Jessica that was really fun to talk to, she liked Juve and we would discuss football stuff in spanish with Arturo (Hydde) and Esteban (Espectro). She stopped coming after the spanish thread got closed because she didnt know much english... its a shame to have seen her go because of that

 

[Slagathor]

I don't want a Dutch thread and I don't think any of the Dutch/Belgian members here think differently about that. If you want to speak your mother tongue - go to a forum from a nation where they speak it.

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by fabiana ] ++


Moderators can be found for such threads then

++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++


then let Fabi moderate the spanish thread. she is trustworthy enough, and its not as if she's a new member. alot of people on here speak dual-languages its most certain that at least a few people will also speak these languages.

Moderators could be found, but only from that circle of a few members, which would in turn probably mean the moderator wouldnt be objective in that thread. Plus, moderators are selected based on other qualities, not just the foreign languages they speak.

++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++
Exactly there is a means to achieve these if people would try and think about it. and we also have kaiser and nick for the italian one.

and another view point. what about people who want to learn more about another language? i know obviously we all know this is primary and english forum and thats fine. but for example if there was a spanish thread then it would give some of us the opportunity to improve out own understand of that or any other languages that a thread was made from with people we mostly know. either way it only improves the place in my opinion.

Yet some members suggest we dont allow others to the same for English. Double standards?

And like Mikhail and I've already explained, at the present time it isn't on the cards.

 

[Martin]

++ [ originally posted by fabiana ] ++
There is a girl whose name is Jessica that was really fun to talk to, she liked Juve and we would discuss football stuff in spanish with Arturo (Hydde) and Esteban (Espectro). She stopped coming after the spanish thread got closed because she didnt know much english... its a shame to have seen her go because of that

Like I said, we are open to everyone and if Jessica or anyone else wants to use this place to speak English, they are most welcome to. But we don't have the resources (nor the desire) to be everything to everyone.

Nicole, if you want to practice Italian, you should join and Italian forum. And hope that they are as open to people who butcher their language as we are. That's just the way it is.

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by fabiana ] ++
There is a girl whose name is Jessica that was really fun to talk to, she liked Juve and we would discuss football stuff in spanish with Arturo (Hydde) and Esteban (Espectro). She stopped coming after the spanish thread got closed because she didnt know much english... its a shame to have seen her go because of that

Why didnt you tell her to stick around and try to improve her english skills?

 

[Martin]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
Plus, moderators are selected based on other qualities, not just the foreign languages they speak.

Oh hey, look at this guy. Who made you moderator? No wait

 

[Dragon]

If I knew of a Juve forum in my language Id have joined ages ago. Cant find one though

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
Andy - do you think I've always spoken English the way I do now? There was a time I didn't speak one single word of English and I still wouldn't if people would've denied me access to English sources of various kinds on the basis of my miserable English skills.

Of course not, however you certainly had at lease a decent grasp of the language when you signed up here.

Don't get me wrong, you do not need to have a very good grasp of the language to post here. However, IMO you should at least have enough of a grasp to actually make sense, albeit not having perfect grammar and spelling. A poster such as JuvetheBest never makes any sense, and it just brings the forum down IMO. But rules are rules and I respect them.

 

[Martin]

++ [ originally posted by fabiana ] ++
If I knew of a Juve forum in my language Id have joined ages ago. Cant find one though

I couldn't either, not one that was dedicated. I started one

 

[mikhail]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
A poster such as JuvetheBest never makes any sense, and it just brings the forum down IMO.

Andy, you know how to use the ingore list, don't you?

 

[Dragon]

++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++


Like I said, we are open to everyone and if Jessica or anyone else wants to use this place to speak English, they are most welcome to. But we don't have the resources (nor the desire) to be everything to everyone.

Nicole, if you want to practice Italian, you should join and Italian forum. And hope that they are as open to people who butcher their language as we are. That's just the way it is.

I joined an italian forum to try and practise and they would ignore me because of my poor italian skills

I think it was the one at juventus1897.it