Nick Against the World (60 Viewers)

[Nicole]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
Yet some members suggest we dont allow others to the same for English. Double standards?

And like Mikhail and I've already explained, at the present time it isn't on the cards.

Are you refering to me? double standards?

If someone would just say what the problem would be? I mean personally i cant see anything wrong with a thread in another language, or at least why everyone is objecting to it.

 

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[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++


Oh hey, look at this guy. Who made you moderator? No wait

Bah, you yourself considered me for the position once

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Of course not, however you certainly had at lease a decent grasp of the language when you signed up here.

Don't get me wrong, you do not need to have a very good grasp of the language to post here. However, IMO you should at least have enough of a grasp to actually make sense, albeit not having perfect grammar and spelling. A poster such as JuvetheBest never makes any sense, and it just brings the forum down IMO. But rules are rules and I respect them.

True, but I dont think it's because he has poor English skills.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by fabiana ] ++
There is a girl whose name is Jessica that was really fun to talk to, she liked Juve and we would discuss football stuff in spanish with Arturo (Hydde) and Esteban (Espectro). She stopped coming after the spanish thread got closed because she didnt know much english... its a shame to have seen her go because of that

Her English, even thoug not very sophisticated, was still readable and people didn't have to read her pieces over and over again to make sense of them.

 

[Dragon]

++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++


I couldn't either, not one that was dedicated. I started one

I would, but Im completely broke and computer illiterate

 

[Martin]

++ [ originally posted by fabiana ] ++


I joined an italian forum to try and practise and they would ignore me because of my poor italian skills

I think it was the one at juventus1897.it

I'm not surprised. And that's why I've always wanted to counter that here, because I think everyone who speaks a language well is tempted to exclude poor speakers from the conversation. I do it myself.

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++


Are you refering to me? double standards?

If someone would just say what the problem would be? I mean personally i cant see anything wrong with a thread in another language, or at least why everyone is objecting to it.

No, I'm not talking about you, I'm saying in general.

And we've already explained. This is primarily an English forum, creating Spanish or Italian or French etc threads would in a way isolate a group of members to themselves and also mean most of the forum couldnt participate. Such threads would also probably be unmoderated, and selecting a mod just because of one thread isnt an option.

 

[Dragon]

++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++


I'm not surprised. And that's why I've always wanted to counter that here, because I think everyone who speaks a language well is tempted to exclude poor speakers from the conversation. I do it myself.

Just like its currently happening with Juve_The_Best and members that cant speak english correctly. Maybe if there was a thread in their native languages other members could explain them how the forum works and tell them to try and post better in english

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by mikhail ] ++

Andy, you know how to use the ingore list, don't you?

Yes I do, however I don't like to run away from my problems. Rather just dispose of them as neccesary.

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++


I'm not surprised. And that's why I've always wanted to counter that here, because I think everyone who speaks a language well is tempted to exclude poor speakers from the conversation. I do it myself.

Yes, it does happen that you dont take seriously someone that hasnt eloquently enough put forward his idea, altho what he/she has said might be smarter or informative than what others, with better language skills, might say.

 

[Nicole]

Its not really a way of isolating people. just some people would find it easier if they were also allowed to post in their own languages, but i doubt anyone is going to agree on this are they, so there is little point, its just a shame imo.

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by fabiana ] ++


Just like its currently happening with Juve_The_Best and members that cant speak english correctly. Maybe if there was a thread in their native languages other members could explain them how the forum works and tell them to try and post better in english

Considering there are so many members from all parts of the world that would mean we'd have to have 30 different threads for all the respective nations and languages. Simply not an option.

 

[Dragon]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



Considering there are so many members from all parts of the world that would mean we'd have to have 30 different threads for all the respective nations and languages. Simply not an option.

You could first create threads for just five different languages to see how it works. And I dont think that having too many threads is a problem

 

[Zlatan]

That would be discriminating against the "smaller" languages IMO. In the end, it's all up to Marty. If you want ask him, but IMO it will not happen.


And again, who would moderate those threads?

 

[Dragon]

Z, no offense sweetheart, but dont let this mod thing get to your head too much

 

[Zlatan]

It's not, I'm simply stating what has been said before, by both Martins I believe.

 

[Bjerknes]

Marty already stated he's not interested in setting up other language threads.

 

[Dragon]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
That would be discriminating against the "smaller" languages IMO. In the end, it's all up to Marty. If you want ask him, but IMO it will not happen.


And again, who would moderate those threads?

I guess there wouldnt be moderators but someone could be appointed to watch that thread and if something wrong happens they could tell a mod

Anyway no point in discussing this anymore, Marty already said that he wanted this to be only in english so in the meantime my only solution would be to find a Juve forum in my language

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by fabiana ] ++
Z, no offense sweetheart, but dont let this mod thing get to your head too much

I think it's starting to grow like a malignant tumor.

 

[Zlatan]

Why? Yo have excellent English skills, there is no need to try to finda a Spanish speaking Juventus forum.

 

[Slagathor]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
Her English, even thoug not very sophisticated, was still readable and people didn't have to read her pieces over and over again to make sense of them.

Legible

Sorry, just thought I'd break the spiral of seriousness