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Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
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Yes, it can be blamed due to feminism being an equal rights movement, which probably affected gay rights movements. This in turn led to how much gays ('faggots' without being derogatory is probably a better word - you know the type) are 'celebrated' these days. esp on TV etc where they make it out like its normal and that's how guys should act. The way those types are portrayed in the media is wrong. And now what they wear, hairstyle etc is shown as trendy.... ~15 years ago if you dressed, had the haircut etc like a lot of people do today (that aren't gay) you'd probably have a chance to be bashed up for looking like a poofter. Males growing up don't need emasculated role models. Even young girls probably get the wrong message where its normal for males to not be dominant. It's a peversion of how we were created, males being the dominant sex, that is natural and should be accepted. It's wrong how normal it is these days that guys can just or even be forced into emasculate/ing themselves and be considered 'cool' or whatever. Not only that but less masculine men in some situations probably leads to more women with less femininity to try and get power over 'weaker' males. It all leads to a weaker society where the weaker, needy and whingers come out on top... It should be survival of the fittest.

I doubt all this exists much in countries where the weaker groups don't have more rights.
:tup: but prepare to be called many things
I'll start by calling him insecure :D
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
no but feminism is
Perhaps. To think free you first need to free yourself from the stereotypes, think in line with reason and independently of cliche/authority. So don't expect me to take it seriously when you propose those famous quotes of Schopenhauer's which have not been proved neither :gsol:rationally:gsol: nor biologically. As for interdestroyer (or whatever else his name is), that post alone shows clearly well why he is pro/against certain points he's trying to make.

And yes, perhaps feminism is euphemism for ignorance too as any movement while developing through time could take up radical shapes which may well be detrimental to/refuting its own cause but I'm living in a society so much burdened with cliches that classifies/ranks people according to their sex, race and religion. If there's one thing I'm completely against it's playing the I'm the weaker party card be it hiding behind sex or race because if you, as a suppressed gender or race, want your abilities to be taken seriously you must stop crying and start working hard but then there needs to be an authority with executive power to guarantee your rights so even though I may not be entirely a feminism supporter, I support the ideologies it's formed around.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Perhaps. To think free you first need to free yourself from the stereotypes, think in line with reason and independently of cliche/authority. So don't expect me to take it seriously when you propose those famous quotes of Schopenhauer's which have not been proved neither :gsol:rationally:gsol: nor biologically. As for interdestroyer (or whatever else his name is), that post alone shows clearly well why he is pro/against certain points he's trying to make.

And yes, perhaps feminism is euphemism for ignorance too as any movement while developing through time could take up radical shapes which may well be detrimental to/refuting its own cause but I'm living in a society so much burdened with cliches that classifies/ranks people according to their sex, race and religion. If there's one thing I'm completely against it's playing the I'm the weaker party card be it hiding behind sex or race because if you, as a suppressed gender or race, want your abilities to be taken seriously you must stop crying and start working hard but then there needs to be an authority with executive power to guarantee your rights so even though I may not be entirely a feminism supporter, I support the ideologies it's formed around.
thats precisely it, and which quotes are you referring to? what i posted was the whole essay and i find most of it on point and independent of cliche, if anything this stance is anti-stereotype because it makes the one holding it "ignorant" as far as current reigning dogma is concerned. As for what interdestroyer is saying, why again do we concentrate on his motives or who he is? why cant we discuss ideas this is the same nauseating feminist tactics. what he presents are real and palpable phenomena. Why does one have to hate women to be able to acknowledge the cultural brainwashing western societies are going through?
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
thats precisely it, and which quotes are you referring to? what i posted was the whole essay and i find most of it on point and independent of cliche, if anything this stance is anti-stereotype because it makes the one holding it "ignorant" as far as current reigning dogma is concerned. As for what interdestroyer is saying, why again do we concentrate on his motives or who he is? why cant we discuss ideas this is the same nauseating feminist tactics. what he presents are real and palpable phenomena. Why does one have to hate women to be able to acknowledge the cultural brainwashing western societies are going through?
Just to clear that up, if you mean me, I generally don't. Just certain ones, like feminists, overly bitchy ones etc etc...

Also, I wonder when people will learn that this kind of stuff (equality) burdens humans and keeps us from progressing. Instead of spending money on scientific advances etc, billions are being wasted on the obese, drug abusers, disabled (i.e. severe retardation) etc.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
10,882
thats precisely it, and which quotes are you referring to? what i posted was the whole essay and i find most of it on point and independent of cliche, if anything this stance is anti-stereotype because it makes the one holding it "ignorant" as far as current reigning dogma is concerned. As for what interdestroyer is saying, why again do we concentrate on his motives or who he is? why cant we discuss ideas this is the same nauseating feminist tactics. what he presents are real and palpable phenomena. Why does one have to hate women to be able to acknowledge the cultural brainwashing western societies are going through?
Brainwashing? You can apply that term to everything, can't you?
Whether you're talking about gender, race, religion, economics, etc. Either side can always claim the other is brainwashing its followers.


Also, I wonder when people will learn that this kind of stuff (equality) burdens humans and keeps us from progressing. Instead of spending money on scientific advances etc, billions are being wasted on the obese, drug abusers, disabled (i.e. severe retardation) etc.
And that is an interesting point, which I basically agree with in theory. Of course, the situation becomes entirely different when you're personally faced with these kind of issues.
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
And that is an interesting point, which I basically agree with in theory. Of course, the situation becomes entirely different when you're personally faced with these kind of issues.
No doubt, but honestly I'm not one to feel entitled to anything from other people (besides parents obviously). It seems like everyone these days believes they should be entitled to everything such as housing, food, health care, education and transport just to name the main things. So because you made bad choices you should get all the stuff that everyone else worked/works hard for for free?
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Brainwashing? You can apply that term to everything, can't you?
Whether you're talking about gender, race, religion, economics, etc. Either side can always claim the other is brainwashing its followers.

And that is an interesting point, which I basically agree with in theory. Of course, the situation becomes entirely different when you're personally faced with these kind of issues.
that is true, but imo the pervasiveness of this is easily detected, how easy is it to see how disposable and victimizable men are in western society. if you are interested in getting more in depth analysis i can share some resources.
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
that is true, but imo the pervasiveness of this is easily detected, how easy is it to see how disposable and victimizable men are in western society. if you are interested in getting more in depth analysis i can share some resources.
I wouldn't mind reading some.

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and that makes the rule? stop looking at the world through feminist manufactured lenses
fucked up how ingrained this is.
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
What are the opinions on Hate Crimes laws? I think they're retarded.
What are the laws?

For example, say if someone killed someone randomly what they wanted to, how would the punishment compare if they killed them for race or whatever?
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,529
Yes, it can be blamed due to feminism being an equal rights movement, which probably affected gay rights movements. This in turn led to how much gays ('faggots' without being derogatory is probably a better word - you know the type) are 'celebrated' these days. esp on TV etc where they make it out like its normal and that's how guys should act. The way those types are portrayed in the media is wrong. And now what they wear, hairstyle etc is shown as trendy.... ~15 years ago if you dressed, had the haircut etc like a lot of people do today (that aren't gay) you'd probably have a chance to be bashed up for looking like a poofter. Males growing up don't need emasculated role models. Even young girls probably get the wrong message where its normal for males to not be dominant. It's a peversion of how we were created, males being the dominant sex, that is natural and should be accepted. It's wrong how normal it is these days that guys can just or even be forced into emasculate/ing themselves and be considered 'cool' or whatever. Not only that but less masculine men in some situations probably leads to more women with less femininity to try and get power over 'weaker' males. It all leads to a weaker society where the weaker, needy and whingers come out on top... It should be survival of the fittest.

I doubt all this exists much in countries where the weaker groups don't have more rights.

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I agree with what you're saying, but I just think the way emasculated man got to the point where they are differs.

First of all, I don't think a haircut makes one emasculate regardless of what it looks like. Are you referring to long hair, or mahawks or what? Because haircuts haven't changed that much from 15 years ago. Clothes maybe but I still don't think they make as much of a statement about masculinity.

If a guy can't be the dominant figure in the relationship, then tough shit for him. He can be himself without having to pretend, doesn't really affect me.

And you're thinking too generally with the whole weeky and whingers come up to the top argument. I haven't seen that occur just because someone is whines about it. Now people have a fairer shot of being appreciated for their skills instead of how alpha they are. For a leadership role, yeah. you have to have leader skills and needy people don't have that. But survival of the fittest? we outgrew that when we started coming out with medicine.
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
I agree with what you're saying, but I just think the way emasculated man got to the point where they are differs.

First of all, I don't think a haircut makes one emasculate regardless of what it looks like. Are you referring to long hair, or mahawks or what? Because haircuts haven't changed that much from 15 years ago. Clothes maybe but I still don't think they make as much of a statement about masculinity.

If a guy can't be the dominant figure in the relationship, then tough shit for him. He can be himself without having to pretend, doesn't really affect me.

And you're thinking too generally with the whole weeky and whingers come up to the top argument. I haven't seen that occur just because someone is whines about it. Now people have a fairer shot of being appreciated for their skills instead of how alpha they are. For a leadership role, yeah. you have to have leader skills and needy people don't have that. But survival of the fittest? we outgrew that when we started coming out with medicine.
The clothes/haircut specifically is not an important point, just emasculation in general. Unfortunately for a lot of guys, they are brought up to believe women's needs first above their own, treat them like a queen etc. This is not how it should be but because of what society tells them this is how they act and they don't know what they are doing wrong through no fault of their own (except maybe being too uninformed/oblivious/ignorant/dumb to enlighten themselves on the truth).

In regards to whinging, look where it's gotten feminism. Or on a more personal basis, if someone feels they have been wrong done by and it is significant enough, some news program will pick the story up because people have been trained to eat that shit up and hence the person in the end will most likely get what they want because the other side doesn't want to look bad.

I think people were always appreciated for their skills but medicine can't turn fat slobs into body builders or the severely retarded into MIT grads. This is survival of the fittest, not letting the weakest parts of society hold back the rest through billions of assistance plus other things i.e. carers, lobbying etc.


pls watch. thanks to X, he showed me. It will make you realise how wrong feminism is (which in turn empowers weaker groups through example but also women generally take sympathy with weaker groups, at least much more in comparison to men). If you enjoy it check out some of her other vids, quite informative and eye opening to a lot of matters regarding gender and how the way things in modern life regarding gender are going against the way we are naturally wired.

 

X Æ A-12

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Contributor
Sep 4, 2006
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Yes, it can be blamed due to feminism being an equal rights movement, which probably affected gay rights movements. This in turn led to how much gays ('faggots' without being derogatory is probably a better word - you know the type) are 'celebrated' these days. esp on TV etc where they make it out like its normal and that's how guys should act. The way those types are portrayed in the media is wrong. And now what they wear, hairstyle etc is shown as trendy.... ~15 years ago if you dressed, had the haircut etc like a lot of people do today (that aren't gay) you'd probably have a chance to be bashed up for looking like a poofter. Males growing up don't need emasculated role models. Even young girls probably get the wrong message where its normal for males to not be dominant. It's a peversion of how we were created, males being the dominant sex, that is natural and should be accepted. It's wrong how normal it is these days that guys can just or even be forced into emasculate/ing themselves and be considered 'cool' or whatever. Not only that but less masculine men in some situations probably leads to more women with less femininity to try and get power over 'weaker' males. It all leads to a weaker society where the weaker, needy and whingers come out on top... It should be survival of the fittest.

I doubt all this exists much in countries where the weaker groups don't have more rights.

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/long rant lol

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Of course women have more rights now because women for years have focusd their politics (and even votes) along gender lines and while men don't do that since we haven't had to really ever in the past. But trying to say that acceptance of homosexuals on t.v. and the idea that to be masculine you no longer have to fit into one exact little stereotype of what a man has to be is now creating a race of sissy emasculated men is beyond retarded.

I didn't really want to post on this subject but fuck man someone had to respond to that.
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
Of course women have more rights now because women for years have focusd their politics (and even votes) along gender lines and while men don't do that since we haven't had to really ever in the past. But trying to say that acceptance of homosexuals on t.v. and the idea that to be masculine you no longer have to fit into one exact little stereotype of what a man has to be is now creating a race of sissy emasculated men is beyond retarded.

I didn't really want to post on this subject but fuck man someone had to respond to that.
Not to that extent, but emasculation somewhat definitely.
 

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