as i pointed out the ideals might seem benign at first sight but their application and practical interpretation are disastrous, the results of which are a generation of repressed emasculated men and the emergence of douche bags and psychos at the top of the testosterone totem pole. Not to mention the devastating effects of the ubiquity of single mothers both as a burden on society and on the children in these homes.
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oh and E, you my boy no need to apologize, i keep things in contexts, and as ugly as intellectual arm wrestling gets, it's just that: slinging of ideas