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It's just a more metaphorical wish, probably stems from wishing him a peaceful afterlife and signifying that you don't hold any hard feelings against the deceased anymore. Has become tradition I guess.
I'm not sure how it might be for black Africans, but among black Americans it's a statistically documented problem where people are encouraged to live as long as possible, and suffer as long as possible. Part of that goes back to Tuskegee experiments and the like that have made black Americans very suspicious of the medical field. But palliative care and hospices have the strongest cultural resistance among blacks here ... and a lot of people are kept alive and suffering because of it.
I knew that Antwerp is in Belgium. Tell me something I don't know. But attempting to equate Verhofstadt with Thatcher just shows that you have no idea what you are on about. And you are Belgian nonetheless, so you should know better than I do regarding what Verhofstad stood for. But apparently you are mistaken regarding Thatcher.
So educate yourself first. Talk second.
So educate yourself first. Talk second.
What a clueless post. She absolutely ruined English industry, she was an eurosceptic who wouldn't allow German unification untill it was a fait accompli. Furthermore she wanted the German unification to go through channels where Germany wouldnt even get a say. Its not far off to claim that European Integration wouldve shattered if she had her way. She supported numerous totalitarian regimes around the world, Suharto in Indonesia perhaps being the biggest butcher of them all. Furthermore she contributed to an international economic system which is largely to blame for the crisis we have today.
The list goes on but this should be enough for you to shut your ignorant mouth for a while.
The list goes on but this should be enough for you to shut your ignorant mouth for a while.
Verhofstadt was based on neoliberalism, wich was what thatcher was preaching all her life.
The comparisons run quite deep actually, resulting in him keeping his nickname of "baby thatcher"
Am i saying he was equal ? Offcourse not. His liberal mind was based of the same concept. But verhofstadt had many more, excellent idea's.
Its sad really, during his reign as prime minister, he had to form a central left goverment, with the socialists and green party (borderline communists).
I lost my interest in belgian politics when Leterme took over
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She was wrong about germany, but right about the rest. People tend to think totalitarian regimes are so very bad, when actually, if people revolt against it, the next regimes are even worse. From europe and the UK's point of view, it was best if things stay'd like they were.
Look at iraq, look at egypt, look at so many other country's. Is it really better there now ?
Instead of forming your opinon based on your own toughts, why dont you go talk to those people ?
I actually know a few guys from iraq. emigrated to belgium, family still there. They'll all tell you that under saddam life wasent bad, as long as you kept your mouth shut, but now, its far worse.
And this counts for every totalitary regime. But thats something the liberators wont tell you
The comparisons run quite deep actually, resulting in him keeping his nickname of "baby thatcher"
Am i saying he was equal ? Offcourse not. His liberal mind was based of the same concept. But verhofstadt had many more, excellent idea's.
Its sad really, during his reign as prime minister, he had to form a central left goverment, with the socialists and green party (borderline communists).
I lost my interest in belgian politics when Leterme took over
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She was wrong about germany, but right about the rest. People tend to think totalitarian regimes are so very bad, when actually, if people revolt against it, the next regimes are even worse. From europe and the UK's point of view, it was best if things stay'd like they were.
Look at iraq, look at egypt, look at so many other country's. Is it really better there now ?
Instead of forming your opinon based on your own toughts, why dont you go talk to those people ?
I actually know a few guys from iraq. emigrated to belgium, family still there. They'll all tell you that under saddam life wasent bad, as long as you kept your mouth shut, but now, its far worse.
And this counts for every totalitary regime. But thats something the liberators wont tell you
This conversation needs to stop now otherwise I'll be banned. Read a fucking book instead of relying on anecdotal evidence. Are you seriously saying that Suharto's reign in Indonesia was a good thing? In the name of fighting socialism they Thatcher personally made sure that he received modern miiltary equipment, which he then used to invade East Timor effectively killing 100.000 people in the process. She backed Saddam to fight against a revolution which was sparked in the first place by a western puppet in Iran. She sent christmas cards to Qaddafi, along with financial and military aid. She underlined how Britain owed Pinochet very much in 1999, she supported the apartheid regime in South Africa and these are just the ones I can name off the top of my head. Get your head out of your ass.
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Oh and I think it's hilarious how you dealt with Germany, "She was wrong about it". Basically the iron Cunt was for a system much like the interwar period where Germany would be kept in shackles and be stripped of any form of recognizable sovereignty. Is it really enough of a retort to say "she wasn't right about it" when it could've destabilized Europe - again. If people like her had her way there would've been a WW3 by now.
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Oh and I think it's hilarious how you dealt with Germany, "She was wrong about it". Basically the iron Cunt was for a system much like the interwar period where Germany would be kept in shackles and be stripped of any form of recognizable sovereignty. Is it really enough of a retort to say "she wasn't right about it" when it could've destabilized Europe - again. If people like her had her way there would've been a WW3 by now.
She did what was best for europe and the UK.
- saddam was rather good for the section of the people that didnt disagree with him. ASK ANYONE FROM IRAQ
- simular thing with qadaffi. Why did such a big part adore him ? But you had to shut up and agree with them. WIch is what the other part didnt liked
- Apartheid was less corrupt then the current regime. It was wrong, yes, but Mandela brought incredibly corrupt people up with him, wich held back what he wanted to achieve. Thatcher believed it was best that south africa wasent ruled by africans thelmselves, as the politics tend to be corrupt as fuck, and would make it harder for europe to exploit its riches. The current goverment there is about the most corrupt in the world.
I understand you look from moral point of view. And yes, then you are right. mostly. Thatcher never bothered with the moral side.
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Yeah, she was wrong. But dont call her a cunt please. She doesnt deserve this
- saddam was rather good for the section of the people that didnt disagree with him. ASK ANYONE FROM IRAQ
- simular thing with qadaffi. Why did such a big part adore him ? But you had to shut up and agree with them. WIch is what the other part didnt liked
- Apartheid was less corrupt then the current regime. It was wrong, yes, but Mandela brought incredibly corrupt people up with him, wich held back what he wanted to achieve. Thatcher believed it was best that south africa wasent ruled by africans thelmselves, as the politics tend to be corrupt as fuck, and would make it harder for europe to exploit its riches. The current goverment there is about the most corrupt in the world.
I understand you look from moral point of view. And yes, then you are right. mostly. Thatcher never bothered with the moral side.
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Yeah, she was wrong. But dont call her a cunt please. She doesnt deserve this
She deserves to be resurrected and fucked to death by Lex Steele like the cunt she is.
Oh, and she is by large responsible for spreading the neoliberal virus that is a sense of individual entitlement which allows you to keep posting and voicing opinions that have been proven not to be rooted in any empirical evidence, but youre entitled to it anyway because you are an individual.
Oh, and she is by large responsible for spreading the neoliberal virus that is a sense of individual entitlement which allows you to keep posting and voicing opinions that have been proven not to be rooted in any empirical evidence, but youre entitled to it anyway because you are an individual.
There is no need to get angry over this Nicola.
I could get angry about the south african situation regarding sexual assault and corruption. But its not the time.
Sadly, Mandela in the end liberated the south african people, but showed how horrible africans can be once given power and wealth.
(not mandela himself, but all those that rose with him)
I could get angry about the south african situation regarding sexual assault and corruption. But its not the time.
Sadly, Mandela in the end liberated the south african people, but showed how horrible africans can be once given power and wealth.
(not mandela himself, but all those that rose with him)
i'm sorry to say man, but "the other part" is right. you can't have a nation in the modern world where people are afraid to speak their mind.
saddam and gadaffi were good to people who didn't disagree with them? is that supposed to tell me something that will make me change my mind about them? and as for your friends who said life under saddam wasn't bad, all i have to say is that people don't always know what's good for them.
saddam and gadaffi were good to people who didn't disagree with them? is that supposed to tell me something that will make me change my mind about them? and as for your friends who said life under saddam wasn't bad, all i have to say is that people don't always know what's good for them.