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Apr 12, 2004
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I see mass unemployment pretty soon, maybe next year. I mean millions and millions of jobs, possibly hundreds of millions, non stop layoffs, financial system decimated... White collar jobs disappearing first, then blue collar jobs. The governments can probably slow down this a bit but if development of AI is not completely stoped this will be a band-aid on a RPG wound. These valuations of every assets are just pure fiction based on projections that there will be demand for these services and goods. How will people without jobs, prospects and purpose spend on anything except survival?

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Bro, you seem to forget the business world, in general, is resistant to change. Plus, the businesses themselves would have to implement it, fucking themselves up.
 

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pavelnel

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Oct 24, 2006
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Bro, you seem to forget the business world, in general, is resistant to change. Plus, the businesses themselves would have to implement it, fucking themselves up.
Oh, but they are already doing it.
CEOs are not interested in the long term or how their actions impact the overall economic environment. They are interested in short term profits and quarterly results. In short term AI will increase productivity and thus profits.
They are also incentivised to look for productivity gains while there has been a shortage of workers. AI gives them that leverage. Since the start of the year more than 150 000 people in tech in USA lost their jobs. True, they were mainly business personal but soon junior specialists will follow.
Microsoft is already testing AI across all its products with many big companies. Soon we will have AI producing short video clips and short after that longer and longer clips. Every day there are news about AI being trained faster and faster with less resources.
I advise all of you to wake up and start preparing for the inevitable. I won't be sleepwalking into this without preparation.

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Apr 12, 2004
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The purpose of all CEOs is to maximize profits, it's all they are supposed to do. They answer to investors.

The tech industry was super bloated, especially after 2020, ask @swag .

I'm not saying you aren't correct across the board, only that it will not be as bad as you expect. Did the mechanization of the car industry and other manufacturing moving overseas cause the loss of jobs for the entire country? No, of course not.

Now, where there is REAL potential is self-driving trucks. Here and in Europe, will be a game changer. We are still 15 or 20 years from that, though. You are talking about a seven-year span where "hundreds of millions" of jobs could be lost. You realize that tanks the profits we already spoke about initially. An unemployment rate of 8% is high, what do you think the markets are going to do when it's 58%?
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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Oh, but they are already doing it.
CEOs are not interested in the long term or how their actions impact the overall economic environment. They are interested in short term profits and quarterly results. In short term AI will increase productivity and thus profits.
They are also incentivised to look for productivity gains while there has been a shortage of workers. AI gives them that leverage. Since the start of the year more than 150 000 people in tech in USA lost their jobs. True, they were mainly business personal but soon junior specialists will follow.
Microsoft is already testing AI across all its products with many big companies. Soon we will have AI producing short video clips and short after that longer and longer clips. Every day there are news about AI being trained faster and faster with less resources.
I advise all of you to wake up and start preparing for the inevitable. I won't be sleepwalking into this without preparation.

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I could see that happen more on the tech side of things which in the US is mostly outsourced one way or the other anyway. But your outlook is way too bleak, consumer resistance to AI and market adaptability will open up new doors.
 

pavelnel

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Oct 24, 2006
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I hope both of you are right but I just don't believe humanity has 10-15 years to steer clear from the abyss. Max 5-7 years.

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Bianconero_Aus

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May 26, 2009
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Holy moly. I was not ready at all to have children in my 20s. 39 now, and sorta feeling ready, but want to wait a couple more years. Girlfriend is 31 and in a rush. Apparently it’s higher risk after 34 for disabilities for women. So I have 2-3 years to decide. If I do have kids, I don’t really want to have them after about 42 though, so that works I guess.
I’m about to have my third one and I’m 38 in two weeks.

Having kids is the best decision I’ve made in my life. They are hard work, exhausting, tiring and often times annoying, but watching them grow up and develop and learn new things about the world makes it all the more rewarding.

You’d make a great dad. Do it brah.
 

pavelnel

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Oct 24, 2006
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Nope, because I have to take care of other people, but when society collapses I doubt self reliance will help you much.
And what am I going to do all day even if I was alone and completely self reliant? Without society my quality of life collapses tremendously. We will go back to the dark ages because we are stupid and utterly selfish.

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GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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Nope, because I have to take care of other people, but when society collapses I doubt self reliance will help you much.
And what am I going to do all day even if I was alone and completely self reliant? Without society my quality of life collapses tremendously. We will go back to the dark ages because we are stupid and utterly selfish.

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Then worry about that when and if it ever happens. Humans are resilient, yes tough times are an inextricable part of the human experience, but hope will keep us trucking.
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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No reason not to have a family imo. There’s a risk with every child. And there’s so much more help nowadays for kids with special needs compared to previous times.
Not sure how it is there, but doesn't seem that way here. I have a second cousin who has a son with autism, he's a big kid. He is also paranoid, delusional, and gets violent now. Probably the type that would end up pushing someone onto the subway tracks randomly for some reason. They had to move to the other side of the country to have him institutionalized after he ended up attacking a nurse, and even his own father once. There's no helping that, you can't fix that. God knows what it costs too. The rest of their lives now they will have to worry about that kid.
 

AFL_ITALIA

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NYC Train Daddy Returns: All-Aboard For New Amtrak Job: Report

New York City's "Train Daddy" is back. Sort of.

Andy Byford is slated to become an executive vice president for Amtrak starting in April, according to an exclusive report by Streetsblog NYC.

The reported new job will be a round trip of sorts for Byford, a Brit who came to New York City to run its subway and bus system.

As MTA's city transit president, Byford became popular for his moves to modernize the system and improve on-time performance. So popular, in fact, that stickers with his head appeared on subway trains.

"Train Daddy loves you very much," the stickers read.

But that love apparently didn't extend between Train Daddy and former Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

Byford quit the MTA in 2020 amid repeated reported clashes with Cuomo and the governor's micromanagement. It didn't take long, however, for Byford to find a new job — he became London's "Train Daddy."

After two years as London's top transportation official, Byford returned to the U.S. to find another job in the transit industry, the New York Post reported in November.

Now, it appears Amtrak has a Train Daddy.
https://patch.com/new-york/new-york-city/nycs-former-train-daddy-all-aboard-new-amtrak-job-report
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling...st-tiffany-thomas-wins-race-weekend-protests/

Totally normal for these nuts (no pun) to win against women….

lmao look at the bulge. I hope all sports crack down on them and force them into their own league.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-cycling-event-says-feels-like-superhero.html
Yeah also these dudes are taking exogenous hormones, shouldnt that disqualify em from competition and even if they weren't, by being men wouldn't their test level blow natty women thresholds?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Great news. Swimming did it last year and now athletics. Loving the meltdown over this by the fringe loonies out on the far left. Imagine raging this hard because men aren’t allowed to change their gender and go dominate women’s sports. :lol2:
It’s one thing to do this and stop. But the perception is it won’t and it’s the good ol’ slippery slope. Ban them from sports, ban them from bathrooms, ban them from everywhere. Then they can set their sights on the gays, just like they’re already doing with “reviewing” gay marriage.

 

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