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[campionesidd]

Indeed - still, all things added up there is still no comparison for conservatives having to battle their way around social media to voice their opinions and wondering when they will get banned. College campuses are no longer areas for free thought. Instead, you shell out 40,000 and worry about pissing off a professor because you think politically different than they do. You even have conservative professors writing open letters to their peers as an anonymous person because they know they will be fired if they disagree. I am sure that you can name plenty of examples on the other side, that's what you're eluding too, which is fine but IMO there is absolutely no comparison.

You can find numerous examples of leftie professors openly advocating extreme positions and even to the point of violence yet THEY will be safe in their careers. As soon as a professor with a conservative opinion says hold on, let's look at this maybe like this and BOOM, cancel culture circles the wagon around that guy/girl until the university/company succumbs to the pressure to remove the person.

Cancel culture and freedom of speech is a problem. Colleges are skewed heavily towards the liberal side, so there is definitely a huge bias there. On the other hand, the upper echelons of the government are controlled by conservatives. Just the other day, Trump asked CNN to retract a poll whose results he didn’t like. Last month, a Florida data scientist was fired because she didn’t go along with the Florida governments plan to fabricate Covid data.
Not to mention, evangelicals have been misusing and misquoting the first amendment to suppress the fundamental rights of other citizens for decades.

 

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[Hust]

Cancel culture and freedom of speech is a problem. Colleges are skewed heavily towards the liberal side, so there is definitely a huge bias there. On the other hand, the upper echelons of the government are controlled by conservatives. Just the other day, Trump asked CNN to retract a poll whose results he didn’t like. Last month, a Florida data scientist was fired because she didn’t go along with the Florida governments plan to fabricate Covid data.
Not to mention, evangelicals have been misusing and misquoting the first amendment to suppress the fundamental rights of other citizens for decades.

First part: Do you mean because of the last election or because of appointed positions? I ask this because obviously that can change from one election to the next. I will say, there are a lot of people still in the government that were put there (appointed and/or hired) under Obama so a lot of things don't always transition from one Admin to another.

Second part: Not saying I disagree, but can you provide an example? I ask genuinely.

 

[campionesidd]

First part: Do you mean because of the last election or because of appointed positions? I ask this because obviously that can change from one election to the next. I will say, there are a lot of people still in the government that were put there (appointed and/or hired) under Obama so a lot of things don't always transition from one Admin to another.

Second part: Not saying I disagree, but can you provide an example? I ask genuinely.

First part: mostly from the last election. The Obama administration wasn’t perfect of course, but they never did something similar as far as I know.
Second part: Unlawfully discriminating against gay people saying it’s their religious right to do so. (Gay wedding cakes being one example, but there are plenty others.) Also, the opposition to Roe v Wade Is completely on religious grounds.

 

[Hust]

First part: mostly from the last election. The Obama administration wasn’t perfect of course, but they never did something similar as far as I know.
Second part: Unlawfully discriminating against gay people saying it’s their religious right to do so. (Gay wedding cakes being one example, but there are plenty others.) Also, the opposition to Roe v Wade Is completely on religious grounds.

Thank you for clarifying. Per the first part, you see in the higher positions that are "by appointment only" rotate quickly. A lot quit when the new Admin transition in which is normal b/c they take the job initially in support of what the current office holder agenda is, some are career federal employees that make their way up to higher level positions in the federal government and have lived in this area for a long time, etc. If Biden wins, you will again see a huge transition of employees at those levels. And I'd also like to note, working in the federal government you actually get a lot of more people that swing left because they are native to DC/Maryland/Northern VA which is heavy left, and many of those work their way up on the GS pay scale from lower level to higher in management. That's the nature of the beast here. You'd be surprised how many normal liberals are employed well within the government. It's actually quite normal. The higher conservatives will transition out normally if a new Admin comes in.

Agree with the 2nd part. I've never been a fan of throwing religion in the face of people, conversely, I don't like people not being able to practice their religion either. It's a slippery slope but people should also learn to deal with how the courts decide. Those things can always be contested. The wedding cake one was a tricky one lol

 

[DAiDEViL]

there is something I genuinely don't get and would love someone who lives in the US to explain this to me, last night the gentleman who got shot outside wendy's in Atlanta resisted getting handcuffed.. is there a law that gives people the option to resist doing what a policeman asks you to do? I don't know if the guy was under the influence of alcohol or drugs but isn't the right thing to do is comply with what is being asked of you until you prove your innocence? I would imagine they would get him to pass an alcohol or blood test and then let him go if indeed he was clear...

the second point I could never understand ( yet another reminiscence of the south-central incidents in 92) why go out and burn wendys?? I mean what's the logic behind going out destroying a restaurant that hires people and serves a community? its the same dumb mentality that happened in Egypt during the so-called Arab spring when they went out and burned police stations and police cars that we the dumb people paid for with our taxes and that didn't really serve us well because guess who paid for the new gear they needed....

and before anyone comes at me, I'm not saying anyone deserves to be shot and killed, but again I don't get the "I'm going to resist arrest" and I dare you to shoot me attitude!!

I don't get it either. Common sense is lost on them i suppose.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Lot of news out of the Supreme Court today.

U.S. Supreme Court declines to hear gun rights cases
"The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday declined to take up a series of new cases seeking to expand gun rights..."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...clines-to-hear-gun-rights-cases-idUSKBN23M1Y0

U.S. Supreme Court snubs Trump on challenge to California 'sanctuary' laws
"The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday handed President Donald Trump a defeat in his legal showdown with the most-populous U.S. state, declining to hear his administration’s challenge to “sanctuary” laws in California that protect immigrants from deportation..."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ge-to-california-sanctuary-laws-idUSKBN23M1X3

In landmark ruling, U.S. Supreme Court bars discrimination against LGBT workers
"The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday delivered a watershed victory for LGBT rights and a defeat for President Donald Trump’s administration by ruling that a longstanding federal law barring workplace discrimination protects gay and transgender employees..."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...rimination-against-lgbt-workers-idUSKBN23M20N

U.S. Supreme Court rejects cases over 'qualified immunity'
"The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday declined to hear a number of cases involving a legal defense called qualified immunity that can be used to shield government officials from lawsuits including police officers accused of excessive force...

Though the justices rejected these cases, they could at some point act on other appeals involving qualified immunity that also are awaiting attention by the court..."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-cases-over-qualified-immunity-idUSKBN23M1YH

 

[Raphaël]

She's sounds like a sow that we are slaughtering

 

[X Æ A-12]

there is something I genuinely don't get and would love someone who lives in the US to explain this to me, last night the gentleman who got shot outside wendy's in Atlanta resisted getting handcuffed.. is there a law that gives people the option to resist doing what a policeman asks you to do? I don't know if the guy was under the influence of alcohol or drugs but isn't the right thing to do is comply with what is being asked of you until you prove your innocence? I would imagine they would get him to pass an alcohol or blood test and then let him go if indeed he was clear...

the second point I could never understand ( yet another reminiscence of the south-central incidents in 92) why go out and burn wendys?? I mean what's the logic behind going out destroying a restaurant that hires people and serves a community? its the same dumb mentality that happened in Egypt during the so-called Arab spring when they went out and burned police stations and police cars that we the dumb people paid for with our taxes and that didn't really serve us well because guess who paid for the new gear they needed....

and before anyone comes at me, I'm not saying anyone deserves to be shot and killed, but again I don't get the "I'm going to resist arrest" and I dare you to shoot me attitude!!

Yea its difficult to understand why anyone would think (even if the arrest is unjustified) physically resisting law enforcement is a good idea at all.

Obviously burning Wendy's is a ridiculous response but some of these people have been riled up and are out for blood. Reason has nothing to do with it.

Most of these areas are now going to see even greater structural poverty when business owners/ residents with money move the out of there ASAP there will be even fewer opportunities for employment / fewer services/ tax dollars for the at risk folks who live there and no future small business owner or megachain will open a new location in high risk areas.

Burning down your own neighborhood is pretty fucking stupid.

 

[Hust]

https://sports.yahoo.com/oklahoma-s...ter-mike-gundy-wears-oan-shirt-191920548.html


is this real or are their deeper issues with this coach? Because to refuse to “do anything until things change” is cancel culture 101.

what a pussy

mad because of a OAN shirt on a fishing trip

 

[GordoDeCentral]

https://sports.yahoo.com/oklahoma-s...ter-mike-gundy-wears-oan-shirt-191920548.html


is this real or are their deeper issues with this coach? Because to refuse to “do anything until things change” is cancel culture 101.

what a pussy

mad because of a OAN shirt on a fishing trip

He must think he's being 'brave"

 

[Ronn]

People lost their minds. This guy was fired because of this tweet.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

People lost their minds. This guy was fired because of this tweet.

He was called a racist for quoting a black Princeton professor, should have quoted tupac

 

[.zero]

Coach Gundy is a good coach

But none of it matters if he can't beat OU

 

[X Æ A-12]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/blasio-tells-covid-contract-tracers-134316096.html

 

[Ronn]

 

[Cerval]

Hopefully the book is released in its current form

 

[lgorTudor]

European here

Isn't Bolton like the godfather of American warmongering

 

[king Ale]

Was it you Andy? If it was you this is for you (and obviously if it wasn't you then my apologies, disregard what I say). We are the same age and joined Juventuz around the same time. I can make a list of Juventuz members you have bullied and trolled ever since you have been a member here. I would have spoken up more if my English had been better at that time but it wasn't so I had a lot of blabla moments and complaints to the mods (Greg knows). I was also only 22-23 and very silly. Over a decade later, you have run to a mod to cry about what exactly? When were you bullied and how? Finally, there is nothing that redeems Him. His mind stinks. There is not a single positive human characteristic in Him. He doesn't care about you or the country. Don't take the things that are being said about Him personally because I'm positive you are better than Him. Also, you should leave the thread if what people say bother you. I do it all the time. It's always better to cancel ourselves before asking for others to be canceled.

I hope it wasn't you Hustini because it takes an unimaginable level of hypocrisy to cry to a mod and then write the things you wrote in the last few pages about cancel culture. Can't be you.

Whoever it was, I feel embarrassed for you. Definitely buy more guns to protect that incredibly thin skin.

 

[Hust]

Was it you Andy? If it was you this is for you (and obviously if it wasn't you then my apologies, disregard what I say). We are the same age and joined Juventuz around the same time. I can make a list of Juventuz members you have bullied and trolled ever since you have been a member here. I would have spoken up more if my English had been better at that time but it wasn't so I had a lot of blabla moments and complaints to the mods (Greg knows). I was also only 22-23 and very silly. Over a decade later, you have run to a mod to cry about what exactly? When were you bullied and how? Finally, there is nothing that redeems Him. His mind stinks. There is not a single positive human characteristic in Him. He doesn't care about you or the country. Don't take the things that are being said about Him personally because I'm positive you are better than Him. Also, you should leave the thread if what people say bother you. I do it all the time. It's always better to cancel ourselves before asking for others to be canceled.

I hope it wasn't you Hustini because it takes an unimaginable level of hypocrisy to cry to a mod and then write the things you wrote in the last few pages about cancel culture. Can't be you.

Whoever it was, I feel embarrassed for you. Definitely buy more guns to protect that incredibly thin skin.

I have not asked for anyone to be canceled AT ALL so chill out.

And my comments on cancel culture are unrelated BY A LONG SHOT I’m honestly surprised you would split a hair enough to even compare.

 

[Ronn]

It was @lgorTudor amirite?

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Hopefully the book is released in its current form

It's probably a delaying tactic by Trump. It's funny he considers every conversation he had as classified.