'Murica! (363 Viewers)

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,484
Dude, what is your problem? My family is from Detroit, some of which worked in the auto industry. The others that married into the family are auto worker through and through, no doubt tough folks. I may be lucky enough not to have to work in an environment like that, but I wouldn't last there anyway.

Honestly, I don't even know why I post here sometimes. You obviously know everything about me and have everything else figured out, so good work to you.
PI is just stubborn about pushing people's buttons he disagreed with in the past. Dont take it personally.

If he gets too fiesty, call up Burke and we challenge PI to a duel in Socom/MAG (and teabag, unless he enjoys it). Lets see if his lumberjack swooness helps him then.
 

pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
7,339
Dude, what is your problem? My family is from Detroit, some of which worked in the auto industry. The others that married into the family are auto worker through and through, no doubt tough folks. I may be lucky enough not to have to work in an environment like that, but I wouldn't last there anyway.

Honestly, I don't even know why I post here sometimes. You obviously know everything about me and have everything else figured out, so good work to you.
He's a kindhearted, well meaning spaz, don't take it personally
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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some descend into madness while others thrive
I am still holding out for the murder-suicide of the century between Jeff "Turtle Head" Bezos and his Chipmunk in a Wig girlfriend down in their New Zealand survival compound. :numnum:

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So this is the best you got, democrats?
I must confess, the people who seek this stuff out and celebrate it seem to be the bigger pervs to worry about. Even if Biden is milquetoast.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
70,775
I know absolutely nothing about Illinois, but I do know that I cannot recall a single time I heard anyone complain about, for example, Texas or Oklahoma receiving federal aid for hurricane damage.
I think there are two distinctions to be made here, one is state fiscal relationship vis a vis federal govt in the form of federal income tax. And the other is how fiscally responsible is the state(state tax, real estate tax...)and i think that's what Trump is referring to here, some states that are on the brink of insolvency, just check illinois bond rating, will seize this opportunity to address some of that deficit at the expense of states that have been fiscally responsible.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/fiscal-stability
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,781
I think there are two distinctions to be made here, one is state fiscal relationship vis a vis federal govt in the form of federal income tax. And the other is how fiscally responsible is the state(state tax, real estate tax...)and i think that's what Trump is referring to here, some states that are on the brink of insolvency, just check illinois bond rating, will seize this opportunity to address some of that deficit at the expense of states that have been fiscally responsible.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/fiscal-stability
Personally, based on his past statements and actions I cannot see this as anything more than him trying to put on a show for political posturing. He specifically mentions sanctuary cities, for example. Whether you're in agreement with them or not, we all know how much his base froths at the mouth over that. As for taxes, I don't understand how a reduction in payroll taxes would help to close budgetary shortfalls.

tl;dr - No doubt many many are poorly run and need reform, I just don't trust that is his intention or he is capable to effectively do so.

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Looking at that link...what does New Jersey actually do besides have Atlantic City and provide cheaper housing for New Yorkers?
 
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GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
70,775
Personally, based on his past statements and actions I cannot see this as anything more than him trying to put on a show for political posturing. He specifically mentions sanctuary cities, for example. Whether you're in agreement with them or not, we all know how much his base froths at the mouth over that. As for taxes, I don't understand how a reduction in payroll taxes would help to close budgetary shortfalls.

tl;dr - No doubt many many are poorly run and need reform, I just don't trust that is his intention or he is capable to effectively do so.

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Looking at that link...what does New Jersey actually do besides have Atlantic City and provide cheaper housing for New Yorkers?
No doubt this is pandering to his base, all politicians are, some are just more polished than others, though in the case of trump his non-polishedness is his biggest asset.

However he does have a point here imo I think it was friedman who once noted that you don't need numbers to see with society is successful and which isn't it, people vote with their feet, all you need to do is follow people's movement, are people going in or out of california vs Texas?
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
No doubt this is pandering to his base, all politicians are, some are just more polished than others, though in the case of trump his non-polishedness is his biggest asset.

However he does have a point here imo I think it was friedman who once noted that you don't need numbers to see with society is successful and which isn't it, people vote with their feet, all you need to do is follow people's movement, are people going in or out of california vs Texas?
Yeah. You just posted a single one of their ratings to support your point. Switching to best overall rankings of states and how they perform for their residents, Texas ranks 38th, California ranks 19th. Making California a far superior state to reside in.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings
 

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