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[Bjerknes]

The idea that any attack from Romney will help in this situation only means that GOP doesn't understand the mess they are in.

No, it means they are desperate for an establishment candidate. The establishment GOP will throw anything they have at Trump, and they are running out of time. That's why one part of me thinks hey, Trump might not be so bad after all. Establishment GOP translates into useless wars and rent seeking, while Trump is like a wildcard that has no record whatsoever. But for me, I can't trust Trump like others can (some of which met him, apparently).

Say what you will about Trump, but Romney stabbed him in the back.

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And this is what has happened to my political party. Amazing. Simply amazing.


And we can all see this coming, right?

A brokered convention? Even if Trump has the delegates, you can guarantee that it will happen, and if it does, all hell will break loose.

And that is the point where I renounce my registration as a registered Republican.

Being registered as either party is basically a statement that at the end of the day, you're still toting the party line. The whole primary nonsense needs to be changed as well.

They will find a way. This happened in 2012 where a couple of states that Romney won, the delegates went against the popular vote as a result of their primary and voted for Ron Paul, I believe.

As would I -- I'm probably still writing in Rand Paul regardless. One part of my says vote for Trump to keep Hillary out, but that would be unconventional for me.

People here don't understand how annoying it is to see the Democrats win major elections. Their supporters are far more arrogant than Joe six pack on the Republican side who only wants what is best for family and community.

 

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[JuveJay]

Your new president, ladies and gentlemen.

It's funny because guys like that are usually the first candidates

 

[Ronn]

No, it means they are desperate for an establishment candidate. The establishment GOP will throw anything they have at Trump, and they are running out of time. That's why one part of me thinks hey, Trump might not be so bad after all. Establishment GOP translates into useless wars and rent seeking, while Trump is like a wildcard that has no record whatsoever. But for me, I can't trust Trump like others can (some of which met him, apparently).

If dick jokes on national TV doesn't make you think he's horrible, then I don't know what does.

 

[Ocelot]

People here don't understand how annoying it is to see the Democrats win major elections. Their supporters are far more arrogant than Joe six pack on the Republican side who only wants what is best for family and community.

Yeah but this line of thinking makes only sense when it's about some random BS that's meaningless when it comes down to it - like football. If I know a couple of Barca fans that are arrogant fuckheads about it, I'm gonna root for Barca to lose to see their reactions - and that's perfectly fine.

But this isn't sports. This actually matters. A LOT. When electing the president, you shouldn't think about how annoying or likeable a candidate's/party's support is.

It's why for me the KKK-endorsement of Trump isn't even necessarily worrying in principle - even though his reaction is of course.

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If dick jokes on national TV doesn't make you think he's horrible, then I don't know what does.

Tbf, Rubio started this - which is probably even saddy, considering he's supposed to be "electable" candidate.

 

[Ronn]

Yeah but this line of thinking makes only sense when it's about some random BS that's meaningless when it comes down to it - like football. If I know a couple of Barca fans that are arrogant $#@!heads about it, I'm gonna root for Barca to lose to see their reactions - and that's perfectly fine.

But this isn't sports. This actually matters. A LOT. When electing the president, you shouldn't think about how annoying or likeable a candidate's/party's support is.

It's why for me the KKK-endorsement of Trump isn't even necessarily worrying in principle - even though his reaction is of course.

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Tbf, Rubio started this - which is probably even saddy, considering he's supposed to be "electable" candidate.

Well Rubio is a dick too. But what Trump did was on national TV while millions of people tuned to watch the debate.
And Democrats lost both in 2010 and 2014 heavily, and they could not win congress despite Obama winning in 2012. 30 governors are republicans, and a majority of state houses are also republicans. So technically GOP won more major elections than the Dems. in past 8 years.

 

[Maddy]

Good read here, nerds.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/02/o...trump-now.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

 

[Seven]

That's why one part of me thinks hey, Trump might not be so bad after all.

Dude, this guy is like Hitler bad. That he has an actual chance of winning the elections should make every sane American consider moving imo. In fact, I would not be surprised if some actually did move if he got elected. And the amount of damage this would do to America's image abroad.. It would take decades to fix. If you'd ever be able to.

 

[king Ale]

I hate Hillary and her warmongering principles and honestly, I may actually prefer Trump to her (if the choice comes down to the two) cause I think Hillary is more dangerous for a peaceful middleast (which, to me personally, is the most important thing), but as a nation (let alone the so called greatest nation in the world) the United States should be embarrassed to have given this much room and popularity to an individual such as Trump. The fact that he has this big of a fanbase should worry everybody but first and foremost the people of America. I mean even having Ahmadinejad was not nearly as embarrassing as having Trump as president would be. We don't have a democracy at Iran. Still, what won Ahmadinejad the first elections was that he was not rich himself and sold himself as a simple person who is very similar to the working class. Also, he was bullied a lot because of his looks and appearances by the media and other candidates and that's what can easily make my people take your side. It's stupid but at least humane. Trump wins over people because he is rich and he brags about it and because he bullies people for their looks, class, race, gender, etc etc. Is that what gets you votes in the US? Embarrassing.

 

[Maddy]

Trump has zero political capital. That's why he is dangerous. Screw his populism. A government, state administration, senate and house would hinder that.

But Trump trying to take on bilateral discussions with China or Russia

And @king Ale Hillary is a turd, but please.. it's Trump.

She's a devil. But a bright one. Never forget.

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Having a rational conversation with Trump is liek having a rational conversation with Djanik [RUS] or Bjerknes [ad hominem-dude].

 

[king Ale]

Trump has zero political capital. That's why he is dangerous. Screw his populism. A government, state administration, senate and house would hinder that.

But Trump trying to take on bilateral discussions with China or Russia

And @king Ale Hillary is a turd, but please.. it's Trump.

She's a devil. But a bright one. Never forget.

I understand that but as I said, if I strictly thought about how the new president could affect my country and the middle east, I'd be more scared of Hillary. Not to mention that she is as big an Israel fan as it can get. She's a hypocritical liar and is not trustworthy at all. I really can't stand her.

 

[Ronn]

I hate Hillary and her warmongering principles and honestly, I may actually prefer Trump to her (if the choice comes down to the two) cause I think Hillary is more dangerous for a peaceful middleast (which, to me personally, is the most important thing), but as a nation (let alone the so called greatest nation in the world) the United States should be embarrassed to have given this much room and popularity to an individual such as Trump. The fact that he has this big of a fanbase should worry everybody but first and foremost the people of America. I mean even having Ahmadinejad was not nearly as embarrassing as having Trump as president would be. We don't have a democracy at Iran. Still, what won Ahmadinejad the first elections was that he was not rich himself and sold himself as a simple person who is very similar to the working class. Also, he was bullied a lot because of his looks and appearances by the media and other candidates and that's what can easily make my people take your side. It's stupid but at least humane. Trump wins over people because he is rich and he brags about it and because he bullies people for their looks, class, race, gender, etc etc. Is that what gets you votes in the US? Embarrassing.

I hate Trump but the guy does not have blood on his hands. Ahmadinejad, and pretty much anybody in Islamic Republic ruling class, have a lot of blood on their hands. Let that sink in for a moment.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I hate Hillary and her warmongering principles and honestly, I may actually prefer Trump to her (if the choice comes down to the two) cause I think Hillary is more dangerous for a peaceful middleast (which, to me personally, is the most important thing), but as a nation (let alone the so called greatest nation in the world) the United States should be embarrassed to have given this much room and popularity to an individual such as Trump. The fact that he has this big of a fanbase should worry everybody but first and foremost the people of America. I mean even having Ahmadinejad was not nearly as embarrassing as having Trump as president would be. We don't have a democracy at Iran. Still, what won Ahmadinejad the first elections was that he was not rich himself and sold himself as a simple person who is very similar to the working class. Also, he was bullied a lot because of his looks and appearances by the media and other candidates and that's what can easily make my people take your side. It's stupid but at least humane. Trump wins over people because he is rich and he brags about it and because he bullies people for their looks, class, race, gender, etc etc. Is that what gets you votes in the US? Embarrassing.

 

[Ocelot]

I understand that but as I said, if I strictly thought about how the new president could affect my country and the middle east, I'd be more scared of Hillary. Not to mention that she is as big an Israel fan as it can get. She's a hypocritical liar and is not trustworthy at all. I really can't stand her.

Honestly, I wouldn't be too sure about that. Of course she means no good for the region, but Trump is simply way too unpredictable. Sure, he condemned the war in Iraq, but he also has it in him to invade Syria in a manner that would make that 2003 attack look like a stroke of genius.

 

[Eddy]

I hate Trump but the guy does not have blood on his hands. Ahmadinejad, and pretty much anybody in Islamic Republic ruling class, have a lot of blood on their hands. Let that sink in for a moment.

Don't be naive, the US has had more blood on their hands since Iraq. Hell, Iran wouldn't even know what to do with it.

This whole Trump thing is a show. It's all about the money in the land of the free and home of the brave so sit back and enjoy the clownfiesta.

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[Ronn]

Don't be naive, the US has had more blood on their hands since Iraq. Hell, Iran wouldn't even know what to do with it.

This whole Trump thing is a show. It's all about the money in the land of the free and home of the brave so sit back and enjoy the clownfiesta.

Dude I grew up in Iran. I know who those zombies are. And I wasn't talking about US. I was talking about Trump, who as shit as he is, is an outsider to US political system.

 

[swag]

Dude, this guy is like Hitler bad. That he has an actual chance of winning the elections should make every sane American consider moving imo. In fact, I would not be surprised if some actually did move if he got elected. And the amount of damage this would do to America's image abroad.. It would take decades to fix. If you'd ever be able to.

Trump would basically be the presidential equivalent of California voting Schwarzenegger for governor or Minnesota voting Jesse Ventura for governor. You realize very quickly that the entertainment persona isn't the same thing as someone capable for the job very quickly, so you get stuck with surviving a populist incompetent in the office for a number of years.

Trump isn't Hitler. He's a smart enough man to talk Hitler when it plays good to the ratings. But just because you play president on TV doesn't make you president.

 

[Seven]

Trump would basically be the presidential equivalent of California voting Schwarzenegger for governor or Minnesota voting Jesse Ventura for governor. You realize very quickly that the entertainment persona isn't the same thing as someone capable for the job very quickly, so you get stuck with surviving a populist incompetent in the office for a number of years.

Trump isn't Hitler. He's a smart enough man to talk Hitler when it plays good to the ratings. But just because you play president on TV doesn't make you president.

You're wrong.

Trump, unlike Schwarzenegger or Ventura, is the personification of nationwide underground racism, xenophoby and irrational fear.

When analysts say it's not Trump that's dangerous, but the mob that lets him command them I think they're spot on.

 

[swag]

You're wrong.

Trump, unlike Schwarzenegger or Ventura, is the personification of nationwide underground racism, xenophoby and irrational fear.

When analysts say it's not Trump that's dangerous, but the mob that lets him command them I think they're spot on.

I agree with the analysts on that. But saying that Trump's raison d'être is racism, xenophoby and irrational fear is Chicken Little alarmist conspiracy talk. You're essentially suggesting that regardless of policy, regardless of self-interest, and regardless of politics, Trump's support is essentially votes for racism, xenophoby and irrational fear.

As if people are thinking, "Yeah, well my family's financial situation is in the shitter, but thank God we have a racist in the White House now." :rolleyes2

That kind of oversimplistic thinking is as much an exaggerated cartoon as Trump's reality TV persona.

 

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Donald Trump answers the question; What is 2+2

"I have to say a lot of people have been asking this question. No, really. A lot of people come up to me and they ask me. They say, "What's 2+2"? And I tell them look, we know what 2+2 is. We've had almost eight years of the worst kind of math you can imagine. Oh my god, I can't believe it. Addition and subtraction of the 1s the 2s and the 3s. Its terrible. Its just terrible. Look, if you want to know what 2+2 is, do you want to know what 2+2 is? I'll tell you. First of all the number 2, by the way I love the number 2. It's probably my favorite number, no it is my favorite number. You know what, it's probably more like the number two but with a lot of zeros behind it. A lot. If I'm being honest, I mean, if I'm being honest. I like a lot of zeros. Except for Marco Rubio, now he's a zero that I don't like. Though, I probably shouldn't say that. He's a nice guy but he's like, "10101000101", on and on, like that. He's like a computer! You know what I mean? He's like a computer. I don't know. I mean, you know. So, we have all these numbers and we can add them and subtract them and add them. TIMES them even. Did you know that? We can times them OR devide them, they don't tell you that, and I'll tell you, no one is better at the order of operations than me. You wouldn't believe it. So, we're gonna be the best on 2+2, believe me. Ok? Alright. Thank you."

 

[Maddy]

I understand that but as I said, if I strictly thought about how the new president could affect my country and the middle east, I'd be more scared of Hillary. Not to mention that she is as big an Israel fan as it can get. She's a hypocritical liar and is not trustworthy at all. I really can't stand her.

Well. First of all; this ain't the iranian election. Secondly; thinking Hillary would be worse than Trump is just absurd. Even in your middle eastern context; Hillary beast Trump.

Dude's a maniac with no political capital. As I said Hillary is a bitch,but knows about foreign relations.

Btw.. Jews > muslims as long as Murica exist.