'Murica! (147 Viewers)

[Fred]

eather this, or money is everythig let the people rot in the streets guys.

...and how is it typical for me? it is exactly the way you react whenever someone disagrees with you about football related things. you know it all. others know nothing.
when in fact others simply don‘t show off with their "football knowledge" as much as you do.

i used to vote for CDU btw. the leading conservative party in germany.
i am not a leftie at all, i just think people are more important than money. but thats just me.

Ya, you havent made one argument against what i said, all youve done is personally attack me and make assumptions about my upbringing.

And how do i show off my football knowledge? we're on a football forum, we're supposed to be talking about football. You just seem like you're not the brightest bulb on the christmas tree so perhaps this is just your inferiority complex talking.

 

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[DAiDEViL]

Ya, you havent made one argument against what i said, all youve done is personally attack me. You just seem like you're not the brightest bulb on the christmas tree so perhaps this is just your inferiority complex talking.

you must suffer from grapho-legasthenia, because unlike you, i didn't insult you.

why no arguments?
because i am sick of debating stubborn, prejudiced mister knows it all's like you, who will never change their mind, no matter how many facts i deliver.

it is a waste of time.

and stick your dumb fuck insult up your arsenal, next to peps dingaling.

 

[Ocelot]

Oddly, both sides use this reasoning to insult the other.

Also, people rarely vote in their own best interests.

In a perfect world, they wouldn't even try to do that either.

Most people of course do, or think they do.

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eather this, or money is everythig let the people rot in the streets guys.

...and how is it typical for me? it is exactly the way you react whenever someone disagrees with you about football related things. you know it all. others know nothing.
when in fact others simply don‘t show off with their "football knowledge" as much as you do.

i used to vote for CDU btw. the leading conservative party in germany.
i am not a leftie at all, i just think people are more important than money. but thats just me.

Ya, you havent made one argument against what i said, all youve done is personally attack me and make assumptions about my upbringing.

And how do i show off my football knowledge? we're on a football forum, we're supposed to be talking about football. You just seem like you're not the brightest bulb on the christmas tree so perhaps this is just your inferiority complex talking.

don't fight pls, i liek you guys

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Also, never vote for CDU again please

 

[DAiDEViL]

Also, never vote for CDU again please

it really is alternativlos. they might be a joke sometimes, but they are still miles ahead of the rest.

 

[Hængebøffer]

At least we don't kill people.

 

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He deleted his post

 

[Fred]

He deleted his post

I did.

 

[Seven]

In a perfect world, they wouldn't even try to do that either.

Most people of course do, or think they do.

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don't fight pls, i liek you guys

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Also, never vote for CDU again please

People think they vote in their own interests, but they often don't. Usually that's because they either don't know enough of the party they're voting for or they just don't understand why their ideas might hurt them.

 

[Ocelot]

People think they vote in their own interests, but they often don't. Usually that's because they either don't know enough of the party they're voting for or they just don't understand why their ideas might hurt them.

I know plenty of people who vote (or at least claim to vote) for the party that they think would make things best for the entirety of society. I try to do so as well tbh, although for people struggling to make ends meet that is of course often not a viable alternative.

 

[Hængebøffer]

People think they vote in their own interests, but they often don't. Usually that's because they either don't know enough of the party they're voting for or they just don't understand why their ideas might hurt them.

Most people only follow politics when there's an upcoming election.

 

[Seven]

I know plenty of people who vote (or at least claim to vote) for the party that they think would make things best for the entirety of society. I try to do so as well tbh, although for people struggling to make ends meet that is of course often not a viable alternative.

Well of course I know plenty people who do so. I am an optimist and I believe that most people want what is good for everyone.

But fear often overrides logic.

 

[Maddy]

In a perfect world, they wouldn't even try to do that either.

Most people of course do, or think they do.

And how do you define "one's own interest"?

A simpleton would claim that it wouldn't be to the benefit of a rich person voting liberal/social democratic, but that is simply not understanding the complexity of society and humans.

 

[Seven]

And how do you define "one's own interest"?

A simpleton would claim that it wouldn't be to the benefit of a rich person voting liberal/social democratic, but that is simply not understanding the complexity of society and humans.

You ask them what they think their interests are.

 

[king Ale]

"When I ran against John McCain, John McCain and I had real differences, sharp differences, but John McCain didn't deny climate science. John McCain didn't call for banning Muslims from the United States. You know, John McCain was a conservative, but he was well within, you know, the mainstream of not just the Republican Party but within our political dialogue. And that’s where, ultimately, any voter is going to have to pay attention is the degree to which the Republican rhetoric and Republican vision has moved not just to the right but has moved to a place that is unrecognizable."

 

[Ocelot]

"When I ran against John McCain, John McCain and I had real differences, sharp differences, but John McCain didn't deny climate science. John McCain didn't call for banning Muslims from the United States. You know, John McCain was a conservative, but he was well within, you know, the mainstream of not just the Republican Party but within our political dialogue. And that’s where, ultimately, any voter is going to have to pay attention is the degree to which the Republican rhetoric and Republican vision has moved not just to the right but has moved to a place that is unrecognizable."

 

[Enron]

"When I ran against John McCain, John McCain and I had real differences, sharp differences, but John McCain didn't deny climate science. John McCain didn't call for banning Muslims from the United States. You know, John McCain was a conservative, but he was well within, you know, the mainstream of not just the Republican Party but within our political dialogue. And that’s where, ultimately, any voter is going to have to pay attention is the degree to which the Republican rhetoric and Republican vision has moved not just to the right but has moved to a place that is unrecognizable."

 

[Bjerknes]

Andy is gonna fall out of his chair at this one.

But a higher minimum wage is the wrong solution to the real problem. The reason it is even an issue in this country is because it's being seen as a solution to fundamental structural problems in the country -- where today we no longer have teenagers working summer jobs for minimum wage but instead family breadwinners are now trying to support a family while flipping burgers. The main motivation behind raising the minimum wage is because of the people working the jobs, not the jobs themselves.

That's just so wrong on so many levels.

Every time I hear a sob story about some woman who has to support three kids on a minimum wage job making sandwiches as a fast food shop, I have to ask why is that woman attempting to raise a family with a job that's practically unskilled labor?

I like your common sense approach to the wage discussion.

Minimum wage is one of those things that do little good to the people its supposed to help(low skilled workers) but it helps the liberals and lefties of the world sleep better at night.

Its very simple, when the price for anything goes up , demand for it goes down, the market will not pay a higher price for anything including labor than what it values it at.

Indeed. And of course, artificially high wages will hurt smaller businesses more than the likes of Walmart who could probably get by with eliminating staff on some shifts to reduce losses. So most likely, some smaller players will be driven out of the market in the long run, thus decreasing competition for the major chains such as Whitetrashmart.

I love your unbridled belief in a system that has been failing since 2008, if not sooner.

If not sooner? Wall Street has been running amok since the middle of the Clinton administration after Glass-Steagall was repealed. Governments and central banks have always been about protecting their interests through corruption. You may think that's free market capitalism, but it's most certainly not. You can't blame capitalism for 2008 when it was created by government policy and central banks playing god over markets.

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"When I ran against John McCain, John McCain and I had real differences, sharp differences, but John McCain didn't deny climate science. John McCain didn't call for banning Muslims from the United States. You know, John McCain was a conservative, but he was well within, you know, the mainstream of not just the Republican Party but within our political dialogue. And that’s where, ultimately, any voter is going to have to pay attention is the degree to which the Republican rhetoric and Republican vision has moved not just to the right but has moved to a place that is unrecognizable."

What a fucking hoot that is. John McCain.

 

[Trequartista]

John McCain

 

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[JuveJay]

"When I ran against John McCain, John McCain and I had real differences, sharp differences, but John McCain didn't deny climate science. John McCain didn't call for banning Muslims from the United States. You know, John McCain was a conservative, but he was well within, you know, the mainstream of not just the Republican Party but within our political dialogue. And that’s where, ultimately, any voter is going to have to pay attention is the degree to which the Republican rhetoric and Republican vision has moved not just to the right but has moved to a place that is unrecognizable."

Plus he's a true American hero for killing Hans Gruber, Simon and all those other terrorists.