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[Seven]

That's the point though. You are doing the same thing that they are by basing your arguments on hypothetical scenarios of terror.

All the actions Trump has done thus far are absolutely disgusting and in no way acceptable but we can't start judging people based on what they might do.

I think you misunderstood.

I'm not saying I will by definition be imprisoned. I'm saying I don't know. And thus I'd rather not take the risk.

That's the exact opposite of hypothesis.

 

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[il brutto]

I think you misunderstood.

I'm not saying I will by definition be imprisoned. I'm saying I don't know. And thus I'd rather not take the risk.

That's the exact opposite of hypothesis.

Okay

And as I said even though I don't share that particular fear I wouldn't travel there at the moment either.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

@Seven if that's how you feel being on another continent imagine being an immigrant here right now. Being a passport holder could mean very little in a matter of months. I'm left with this uneasy feeling that I should be doing something, I want to but don't really know how as I fear for my family.

 

[Seven]

@Seven if that's how you feel being on another continent imagine being an immigrant here right now. Being a passport holder could mean very little in a matter of months. I'm left with this uneasy feeling that I should be doing something, I want to but don't really know how as I fear for my family.

Yeah, I totally get the uneasiness. Not sure there is anything you can do though.

 

[campionesidd]

Where are Andy, Zoso and Zach? I want to see them try to justify this.

 

[Seven]

Where are Andy, Zoso and Zach? I want to see them try to justify this.

I don't think Zach will justify this tbh. The other two are just retarded.

 

[Fr3sh]

Well let me but it this way then. I'm sure white Europeans won't be imprisoned for no reason in the US. Let's not start resorting to the same scaremongering they have.

You're wrong. You don't know. You can't be sure. When a society slides this far down, anything goes.

il brutto is right, they'll actually have to justify why they detained a frenchman or dane, but they'd have nothing to explain if they'd detained say a Somali or a Iraqi.

 

[Enron]

The White House has told agencies to ignore the court's ruling from last night. That's wonderful.

 

[Ronn]

There have been 2 more court rulings this early morning in Massachusetts and Virginia which puts a 7 day restraining order on the Executive Order. Also, Reince Priebus just said that the ban does not extend to permanent residents.
Whatever side you're on, you can't just ignore the mess this thing has created. And this only concerns 2000-3000 travelers max. Just imagine what will happen when Obamacare is repealed.

 

[Lion]

my sister, canadian/iranian citizen who works in the states on a work visa was told not to leave the country by her hr department.

she wanted to come visit me in the spring.

lol

 

[Enron]

There have been 2 more court rulings this early morning in Massachusetts and Virginia which puts a 7 day restraining order on the Executive Order. Also, Reince Priebus just said that the ban does not extend to permanent residents.
Whatever side you're on, you can't just ignore the mess this thing has created. And this only concerns 2000-3000 travelers max. Just imagine what will happen when Obamacare is repealed.

Sec of Homeland says he will honor the rulings.

 

[Zacheryah]

Where are Andy, Zoso and Zach? I want to see them try to justify this.

He's doing this to look like a great big leader that does what he promises to the people who voted into power, and the first republican that dares to open his mouth will be politically dead and burried.


Thats why he does it. Do i justify it ? Offcourse not, its idiotic. Will it solve anything ? Nope, cause its idiotic. Will it only have negative consequences ? Yes, cause its idiotic.

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Allow me to give an example on why its idiotic


Remember the attacks in Paris and Brussels airport ? Belgian born. No duel nationality, only Belgian nationality. Will get anywere.

 

[Maddy]

So the president candidate Zach supported have just done something he promised to his voters, yet calls this action idiotic, despite telling us to contain our judgement until Trump actually does something, but still supports him.

 

[JuveJay]

Is the manchild narcissist still big boss man?

 

[Post Ironic]

@Enron @Seven

Getting lost in all the furor over the Immigration ban...

Trump kicked the Director of National Intelligence and The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff off his National Security Council and replaced them with Priebus and Bannon.

What the actual fuck.

 

[Cerval]

Impeached in 3... 2... 1

 

[Zacheryah]

So the president candidate Zach supported have just done something he promised to his voters, yet calls this action idiotic, despite telling us to contain our judgement until Trump actually does something, but still supports him.

Do people support a person because they agree on every single point on the electionagenda ?

Or do people support the person with whom they degree on the most points and they find important ?





I supported Trump over Clinton purely on their different view on how the US should behave in International conflicts and meddeling in other country's in the first place. Especially Syria.



Please, do inform us peasants on who you support, so i can find some interesting agenda points to ask you about

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Impeached in 3... 2... 1

Trump cannot be impeached for at least two years. Its time to give up that sillyness

 

[Cerval]

Do people support a person because they agree on every single point on the electionagenda ?

Or do people support the person with whom they degree on the most points and they find important ?





I supported Trump over Clinton purely on their different view on how the US should behave in International conflicts and meddeling in other country's in the first place. Especially Syria.



Please, do inform us peasants on who you support, so i can find some interesting agenda points to ask you about

The ban and the wall should be enough to counter any arguments in favor of Trump. The man is straight up crazy.

Hillary is gone, no valid reasons whatsoever for you or anyone sane to continue supporting him.

 

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/a-clarifying-moment-in-american-history/514868/
@Seven @CrimsonianKing

A good piece on just how nightmarish this first week of Trump has been and how his temperament and the people he surrounds himself won't allow it to ever get any better. But the finish is a good one for inspiring a bit of hope in these rather depressing days.

There is nothing great about the America that Trump thinks he is going to make; but in the end, it is the greatness of America that will stop him.

 

[ALC]

So the president candidate Zach supported have just done something he promised to his voters, yet calls this action idiotic, despite telling us to contain our judgement until Trump actually does something, but still supports him.

I really wonder if most of the people that voted for him are starting to feel retarded yet. I know for a fact that some supporters of him actually applaud the ban. Oh well, at least it's nice to see people get passionate about our government.