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IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,930
well then he was right to build a wall and keep you in Mexico
Silly silly boy.

I can always send one of my maids to do the dirty work. Liek when they have to pick my dogs' poo.

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Speaks volumes to the current American lifestyle. Even our elected officials are reality shows full of drama. Idiocracy the movie turning into real life.
Have you seen BraidDead? Good show, it really portrays the political situation in the US.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I can find you dozens of the above.

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Basically, Seven says he's not pro democrat. Yet he's completely following anything they say, anything their media bring.


Mainstream US media aside from fox is entirely pro leftist democrat. With political agenda. Aka bash conservatives and republicans, pander lefties, liberals and democrats.


They've done it so excessively, people got fed up. Dont believe in the press. Dont think the media presents the image they have





Again. Trump's rally's during preliminaries and presidentials attracked huge numbers. But they acted like it was nothing. I recall several times he asked the camera man to zoom out and show exactly how many there where. Only 1 ever did. (it was truely a huge crowd).

Hillary had barely nothing, but they acted as if she had the entire state visiting.


This is deliberately twisting the truth, and people got fed up, and Trump in his own way called them out for it.




Does anyone believe Trump has nothing better to do, then hire prostitutes to go urinate on a bed obama slept in ? Like what the fuck. chapter of journalists says to always check sources and not post unverified stuff.
But buzzfeed did it. And anti trump CNN went for it. Only one reason : discredit trump


However, this is exactly how he obliterated the opposition in the preliminaries. shoot them down. And use their ammo against them. Remember the 'fake news' campaign after even less people believed mainstream media followed the election debacle ? So what does trump do ? Called them out for "fake news".


This is Trump's re-election. He just needs to create jobs, deport imprisonned illegals, and bash the leftist media his voters are sick and tired about.

Your take on it @Bjerkness ?
You realise I have literally been commenting on Trump's own tweets?
 

pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
11,045
I took an academic bachelor of science in chemistry, option biochemistry at colleague, and went to university to complete the Master of science in industrial engineering : Biochemistry.

You go look up what wages people with my degree earns in the US. I would have no issue whatsoever paying of student loans.

When i'm looking at the total sum my employer pays, which is my wage, taxes/rsz and social costs, i'm giving away 70%. And that will only increase if my wage increases.
Great that in your hypothetical situation you'd have no issue to pay those loans, but in real life you have received more than you have given, it's silly to complain about high taxes when you are on the receiving end
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,337
Great that in your hypothetical situation you'd have no issue to pay those loans, but in real life you have received more than you have given, it's silly to complain about high taxes when you are on the receiving end
Often the very people who complain about them are the ones that have received more than they have given. I know people with a burnout who haven't worked in two years and they complain they have to fill in a couple of forms to get money. Insane.

But to support Trump you'd truly have to be mad. Zach and Andy are right in that the media and the Democrats haven't been exactly in fine form.

But Trump.. Incredible. In fact it's a very Russian way of thinking. Lots of Russians like Poetin simply because he looks like a strong leader. His actions or words don't matter. It's the same with Trump, only it's very odd that Zach seems to think Trump supporters focus on facts (truly incomprehensible wtf moment right there).
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Anyone who says Conservative Republicans work exclusively with "truth and raw facts" is hopeless... It's one of the more wtf statements I've read on this forum.

It's utter nonsense and quite mind-boggling, considering any idiot with access to google could search a plethora of lies and obfuscations from politicians on both the left and the right, from communism to fascism, and everything in between.

Being right or left on the political spectrum should not mean one has to be an outrageously partisan moron. Unfortunately, the "truth" says different.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,119
I refuse to engage in a discussion with anyone stupid enough to support trump
I'm sure everyone will be just devastated. :bianconero:



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I can find you dozens of the above.

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Basically, Seven says he's not pro democrat. Yet he's completely following anything they say, anything their media bring.


Mainstream US media aside from fox is entirely pro leftist democrat. With political agenda. Aka bash conservatives and republicans, pander lefties, liberals and democrats.


They've done it so excessively, people got fed up. Dont believe in the press. Dont think the media presents the image they have





Again. Trump's rally's during preliminaries and presidentials attracked huge numbers. But they acted like it was nothing. I recall several times he asked the camera man to zoom out and show exactly how many there where. Only 1 ever did. (it was truely a huge crowd).

Hillary had barely nothing, but they acted as if she had the entire state visiting.


This is deliberately twisting the truth, and people got fed up, and Trump in his own way called them out for it.




Does anyone believe Trump has nothing better to do, then hire prostitutes to go urinate on a bed obama slept in ? Like what the $#@!. chapter of journalists says to always check sources and not post unverified stuff.
But buzzfeed did it. And anti trump CNN went for it. Only one reason : discredit trump


However, this is exactly how he obliterated the opposition in the preliminaries. shoot them down. And use their ammo against them. Remember the 'fake news' campaign after even less people believed mainstream media followed the election debacle ? So what does trump do ? Called them out for "fake news".


This is Trump's re-election. He just needs to create jobs, deport imprisonned illegals, and bash the leftist media his voters are sick and tired about.

Your take on it @Bjerkness ?
Trump reportedly doesn't even drink. Never touched drugs in his life... reportedly. He doesn't need to hire prostitutes, that's more of a Democrat-type of thing.

If Trump can create some jobs, lessen the tax burden, begin balancing out budgets, and not get us involved in foreign wars like everyone else, I would consider that doing a good job. But even if successful, you will see the Democrats here and everywhere else consider him the worst President ever just because he's Trump. So when folks like Seven talk about facts, you know you can throw that shit right out the window.

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I sooo want someone to assassinate Trump.

That'd be so lulzy.
If this was about any other President, this post would be censored. But since it's Trump... and all the mods hate Trump... well, you know how the story ends.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,337
I'm sure everyone will be just devastated. :bianconero:



Trump reportedly doesn't even drink. Never touched drugs in his life... reportedly. He doesn't need to hire prostitutes, that's more of a Democrat-type of thing.

If Trump can create some jobs, lessen the tax burden, begin balancing out budgets, and not get us involved in foreign wars like everyone else, I would consider that doing a good job. But even if successful, you will see the Democrats here and everywhere else consider him the worst President ever just because he's Trump. So when folks like Seven talk about facts, you know you can throw that shit right out the window.

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If this was about any other President, this post would be censored. But since it's Trump... and all the mods hate Trump... well, you know how the story ends.

Stop acting like a child and start looking at what Trump says. Just read his Twitter account. The man is crazy.

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 12 jan.

We had a great News Conference at Trump Tower today. A couple of FAKE NEWS organizations were there but the people truly get what's going on
This one is nice too:

Meryl Streep, one of the most over-rated actresses in Hollywood, doesn't know me but attacked last night at the Golden Globes. She is a.....
And this one is truly kindergarten stuff:

Dishonest media says Mexico won't be paying for the wall if they pay a little later so the wall can be built more quickly. Media is fake!

He even writes in all caps to emphasise a point.. Why? Why would you trust a man with the patience of a toddler with your life? I won't ever get that.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,337
Hey, at least there shouldn't be an issue with transparency.
That would be the case if he'd show his tax returns. But even Trump hides stuff. Apparently more so than any other candidate in history.

But nevermind all that. I don't even care that much about his finances. I do care about the fact he seems mentally unstable. This is not okay behaviour for a person who theoretically has the power to start wars.
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,324
@Seven You're wasting your time.

I mean, it's downright obvious that a man that mentally unstable should never ever have the kind of power he does now.

How that doesn't get through Andy's head I'll never know. It's nothing to do with one being a liberal or a democrat. The guy is a spoiled self-centered bigot with the mind of an overgrown child. How can anyone with half a brain support him to be in the position he is, is way beyond me. It's a new level of stupidity.
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
64,667
@Seven You're wasting your time.

I mean, it's downright obvious that a man that mentally unstable should never ever have the kind of power he does now.

How that doesn't get through Andy's head I'll never know. It's nothing to do with one being a liberal or a democrat. The guy is a spoiled self-centered bigot with the mind of an overgrown child. How can anyone with half a brain support him to be in the position he is, is way beyond me. It's a new level of stupidity.
:tup:
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,827
@Seven You're wasting your time.

I mean, it's downright obvious that a man that mentally unstable should never ever have the kind of power he does now.

How that doesn't get through Andy's head I'll never know. It's nothing to do with one being a liberal or a democrat. The guy is a spoiled self-centered bigot with the mind of an overgrown child. How can anyone with half a brain support him to be in the position he is, is way beyond me. It's a new level of stupidity.
:tup:
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
31,789
So, when is he going to start acting presidential, like he said he would?

Say what you want about Obama and Bush, Jr., but these two carried themselves with grace, regardless of what the opinions are regarding the job they did. They have dignity. They would never act like this.

I'm not going to get into the policies he's talking about, because I quite honestly don't even know what they are. Does anyone? Does anyone know what his tax plan is supposed to be? How about repealing and replacing Obamacare? Anyone? Not even the Republicans have any idea what they are going to do with that impossible task. There is no possible way to seamlessly transition from one health plan to another that affects 20 million Americans (Including my parents by the way, and yes, they are both Republicans) in a way that would make it seem as if no change happened at all. And now we are paying for the wall, and Mexico is supposed to pay us back? What?


Once upon a time, the President of the United States was the most respected man in the country. I have been a Republican a lot longer than Trump, and I can tell you that I have no respect for him at all. This Presidency to him is to accomplish two things. #1) To increase his brand image #2) To have the ultimate bully pulpit to spew his hatred, arrogance, and petulance.

This is all that he has shown so far. And hopefully we can forget about Sessions and Tillerson (Two of the biggest WTF selections that I have EVER seen for AG and Sec of State) getting pushed through. I'm just glad that at least we have General Mattis, a truly decent, smart, level headed man, who basically threw a big middle finger at all of Trump's rhetoric during his hearings.


And no, Hillary Clinton would have been no better. I guess Trump is the president we deserve, although all of the Americans I know, for sure, certainly deserve better than this.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,119
There's that meaningless word again. It's been used so much over the past 8 years that it is nothing more than a fart in the wind. It's fine if you don't like his persona, but the people calling him a bigot without any evidence is nothing more than dishonesty. Of course, most of you aren't Americans anyway, so nobody here could care any less about what you have to say. Yet you keep on talkin'.

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Once upon a time, the President of the United States was the most respected man in the country. I have been a Republican a lot longer than Trump, and I can tell you that I have no respect for him at all. This Presidency to him is to accomplish two things. #1) To increase his brand image #2) To have the ultimate bully pulpit to spew his hatred, arrogance, and petulance.

That makes no sense whatsoever. He's already unpopular with an entire segment of the population. What good is it if he's President?

And honestly, Republicans should be ashamed of themselves for their President murdering millions of people around the globe including our troops. Please don't bring George Bush's name into this... who gives a crap what sort of face he puts on. He's killed people, dude. He's killed our troops for absolutely nothing.
 

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