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When you gift 70%+ of your taxes, and have a minister of mobility determined to fill the gap of the federal budget on his own. You start caring less
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The only fact at the moment is that his bullying has changed 3 car manufactors their mind.
What we now need to see, is what happens when a company tells trump to fuck off and go through with building in mexico.
Thats when it gets interesting.
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The only fact at the moment is that his bullying has changed 3 car manufactors their mind.
What we now need to see, is what happens when a company tells trump to fuck off and go through with building in mexico.
Thats when it gets interesting.
See, that's not correct. And it's exactly the kind of bullshit Trump pulls.
Here's an article in Dutch for you: http://www.tijd.be/ondernemen/auto/Toyota_countert_Trump_met_investeringsplan.9850013-3100.art
Toyota didn't change their mind. They will still build their plant in Mexico.
A University student in a country with heavily subsidized higher education complaining about taxes. 
I don't have a problem with paying considerable taxes. We get good, universal healthcare for it, our higher education is practically free compared to that of many other different countries, our police force and utilities would probably be considered excellent compared to most.
But you have to consider that we pay the highest income tax worldwide: http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmc...st-income-tax-rates-infographic/#66d4941c7e8e
We're not number three, not number four.. We pay the most. In general that means something might be off and it would be advisable to doublecheck if we're actually doing the right thing. That doesn't happen here at all. Instead we get conservative politicians saying we need to pay more. Yet life itself has become increasingly less expensive. It doesn't add up. And when you take into account small business owners, which as a lawyer I am in Belgium, you'll see that they risk paying up to 70% in direct and indirect taxes. I can understand the frustration.
I have no problem with thinking the tax rate in Belgium is too high... It's just rather amusing coming from a student who likely pays next to nothing in taxes, and is having his education almost entirely subsidized by the government to the tune of a couple hundred thousand.
Aside from this, it was the Reagan-era tax cuts (combined with his retarded military spending, attack on public education, and bloated government size) that fucked over the middle class in America... Dropping your tax rates by +-10% would probably do some good, but the libertarian stuff, with flat, low-tax Zach advocates is utter nonsense.
Aside from this, it was the Reagan-era tax cuts (combined with his retarded military spending, attack on public education, and bloated government size) that fucked over the middle class in America... Dropping your tax rates by +-10% would probably do some good, but the libertarian stuff, with flat, low-tax Zach advocates is utter nonsense.
A University student in a country with heavily subsidized higher education complaining about taxes.
You go look up what wages people with my degree earns in the US. I would have no issue whatsoever paying of student loans.
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When i'm looking at the total sum my employer pays, which is my wage, taxes/rsz and social costs, i'm giving away 70%. And that will only increase if my wage increases.
And I totally get you.
Hell, I could name like 50 reasons why you shouldn't follow Serbian politics or read anything related to it.
But is that a reason to follow the US elections and their politics? I don't see how's that important.
Trust Trump? All politicians are liars and their votes are always based on lies. They all lie and they all steal at some way or another, directly or indirectly. Just how and WHY exactly would you (want to) trust a president or a PM? It's just that peoples mind are based on hope hidden in their archetype. So you have to believe and want to believe something. But politics? Really? And you're from Belgium. Why would you care, seriously? Sure, some US politics will always affect the globe but in the end it's just you losing nerves over nothing and over some foreigners. And literally in the end there's nothing you can change, and unlike football, you will hardly ever get a healthy discussion here.
It's just a matter of volume. And, like always, majority of public never really knows what's going on. And no, you won't ever know that based on a couble of interviews and some youtube videos.
You can have opinion on pretty much everything but some topics are always a question mark.
Hell, I could name like 50 reasons why you shouldn't follow Serbian politics or read anything related to it.
But is that a reason to follow the US elections and their politics? I don't see how's that important.
Trust Trump? All politicians are liars and their votes are always based on lies. They all lie and they all steal at some way or another, directly or indirectly. Just how and WHY exactly would you (want to) trust a president or a PM? It's just that peoples mind are based on hope hidden in their archetype. So you have to believe and want to believe something. But politics? Really? And you're from Belgium. Why would you care, seriously? Sure, some US politics will always affect the globe but in the end it's just you losing nerves over nothing and over some foreigners. And literally in the end there's nothing you can change, and unlike football, you will hardly ever get a healthy discussion here.
It's just a matter of volume. And, like always, majority of public never really knows what's going on. And no, you won't ever know that based on a couble of interviews and some youtube videos.
You can have opinion on pretty much everything but some topics are always a question mark.
Imo, all politicians lie to get to their goals. Thing is, when you come to power like this, you have a certain agenda you want to press.
Trump is a blunt man, not a politician. I completely disagree he's a grotesque liar. I watched those preliminaries, and he was the guy who would find any displeasing fact and nail you to the cross with it, while beeing able to deflect whatever is trown at him.
He's not sophisticated, he's in your face. America likes it.
Obama is a politician who suffered a groteque amount of terrorist attacks on domestic soil. So what does he say ?"America did not suffer from a single terrorist attack organise and constructed by a foreign terrorist organisation".
Its bullshit, because thats not how they work anymore. But he's not lying. He's twisting the truth in a way he can make a big quote without beeing framed on it.
Obama is a politician, Trump isnt.
Trump is a blunt man, not a politician. I completely disagree he's a grotesque liar. I watched those preliminaries, and he was the guy who would find any displeasing fact and nail you to the cross with it, while beeing able to deflect whatever is trown at him.
He's not sophisticated, he's in your face. America likes it.
Obama is a politician who suffered a groteque amount of terrorist attacks on domestic soil. So what does he say ?"America did not suffer from a single terrorist attack organise and constructed by a foreign terrorist organisation".
Its bullshit, because thats not how they work anymore. But he's not lying. He's twisting the truth in a way he can make a big quote without beeing framed on it.
Obama is a politician, Trump isnt.
Yeah, but in the end people who run for US president either are massive egotrippers or are so idealistic they have devoted their entire career to their cause. In both cases they will do everything to be remembered fondly. A cynical mind would say they'd just lie about their achievements, but I'd like to believe every US president, even Trump, will try to do what he believes is best.
I think what you're saying is definitely true for lower ranked politicians, I'm just not sure it's also true for the highest office.
I think what you're saying is definitely true for lower ranked politicians, I'm just not sure it's also true for the highest office.
Damn! Trump is melting down.
Also, for some reason no one says this, but him claiming that he won easily is:
a) irrelevant, because the investigation is about whether or not the elections were fair. African dictactors win by landslides too. That's a completely false argument.
b) untrue, he didn't even win the popular vote.
This man is going to be America's shame for quite some time to come. Good luck.